Hi there. My name is dr.
Presenta, and I'm the host of the doctor nurse podcast.
I'm an advanced nurse practitioner and I want to be
your guide into the world of nursing professions.
This podcast is a platform for nurses to share their Journeys
as they made their way in the diverse field of nursing as
either entrepreneurs, Academia private, practice or even the
corporate world. I think we should celebrate just
how diverse the field of nursing is through mentoring one.
Another, with the stories of our career.
Our Journeys, nothing is too mundane because each journey is
unique. This podcast will showcase
career options to encourage nurses to view their degrees
with a business mindset. After all we work in the
healthcare business and ultimately I hope I might
inspire you to make a change. If you're looking for something
different, I am motivated to see you live, your best, nursing
life and that looks different for everyone.
Thanks for joining me on today's podcast.
And let's get started with today's guests.
Hi guys. Welcome to the doctor nurse
podcast. I'm so excited today to have on
my show the amazing Katie Harris.
She is a PhD MBA RN and I also believe you are an AR and P.
You are the owner of a business called nurse preneur.
'S, she is a business Mentor, a nurse business, mentor and
online, educator, and an author hailing from Philadelphia
Pennsylvania. After spending years of of time
and money on coaching to get her job and her nursing expertise up
to a level that she felt like she could mark it, it, she
decided after the birth of her son to start teaching other
nurses, how to create businesses for themselves by leveraging,
what her failures were. But also what her successes were
so that other nurses could get to the things that they wanted
out of their careers faster. Katie, thank you for coming on
today. Thank you.
Chatting, let's Dive Right In. Thanks for having me.
Alright, so the first question for today is tell me exactly
what it is. You do, what's your job title
these days? I call myself owner and CEO of
nurse printers. And she basically, that's the
business I started back in 2016. And so, I mean, my job right now
for year for several years, I was a solopreneur.
So, my job is everything that had to be done in The last
couple of years, we've started to hire on a team and I still
find myself doing a little bit of everything.
Much to my team's dismay like that.
Go do something else, leave us alone.
I still wear a lot of hats and I wear a lot of the top management
type hats in the business. As we grow.
My role is to kind of just have the vision for nurse printers.
Make sure that we're on track and doing what it is that we
want to do for nurses, which is to empower them and help them
Inspire them. To take the next step in their
careers or start a business, if that's what they want to do.
So interesting. Katie, how did you get to this
specific spot in your career? Kind of take me through your
journey from the moment, you decided to be a nurse to the
moment that you said, I'm going to go teach nurses how to build
businesses. Take me through that process.
Another lot of people ever ask me about why I wanted to be a
nurse and that it's kind of like off the topic but I'll just tell
you briefly I had a dream and I woke up and I said, I'm going to
be a nurse and my mom was like, that's ridiculous.
They did not want me to be a nurse but my dad wanted me to be
an Actuarial scientist and I didn't even know what that was
until a couple of years ago. Come to find out.
It's at the statisticians. Like banging out, numbers all
the time. Like that would have been the
worst career ever. But all he wanted was to make
sure that I had lots of money. So I'd be secure and that kind
of stuff. And they didn't see dollar signs
in the nursing career, but I was persistent and nothing would
derail me from this plan. So, I went into nursing and I
loved it. The first couple of years, it
was a lot of fun. I mean, I grew up in nursing in
the late 90s, early 2000s and back, then we had a lot of
freedom and this is something that I really understand about
myself. At this point is that I enjoy
freedom and the ability to do what I want.
And back then, like we would write verbal orders for
everything. Like when the patient came in, I
wrote all the orders verbally, of course.
So it was legal and enjoying the course of the hospital.
Stay, I wrote all the orders with River below orders, and
then I did all the discharge Iran.
And it with the attendings, that's just what we did.
And then they started to crack down on that in the hospital.
And said, you can't have a verbal order, the whole stay of
the patient's right or wrong but it put a constraint on me so I
ended up going back for my nurse practitioner degree and I'd work
for neurosurgery all these years.
So when I finished the nurse practitioner degree I was doing
legally, what? You know, I seem to be doing
previous to that. I really love that position as
well. And I work with the, the A
surgeon's. I grew up with the neurosurgeons
from like in turn to PD. Y, 2 3.
All the way through six or seven whatever they go to.
Yeah you know one or two I didn't want to be a doctor but I
wanted them to respect me by pulling my weight.
So I thought I had to work as hard and as often as they did I
would show up at 5:00 in the morning to get my rounds done
and have the entire unit in place by like 8:00 a.m. and then
I'll just write. But then I would stay until like
6:00 or 1:00 signing out with them as well.
So I put in all these hours but over the years, it starts to
wane on you and that the residents start moving on and
you're kind of still in the same spot.
It got to one point five or six years into it that the pgy to
that I learned with. We went up the ladder together
but then he graduate it became the director of some
cerebrovascular stroke center and I had to go back to signing
in and out with the intern and I'm like you constantly having
to prove yourself because Constantly interrupt just like
wait, what just happened here? He got to his dad's, he put his
eighty hundred hours a week in and he Advanced and I put 80 to
100 hours in and somehow I got demoted.
So that, yeah, it's like Groundhog Day for your career.
Yeah, you notice that, right? That's what I noticed is as well
working in surgery and I again like your background is so cool
because I connected with that and I said, she's right.
I work with urologist and I've watched them go from there p gy
2 and now Their Chiefs, and they walk in.
And I'm like, I remember when you could it do Sisto like, and
now their Chiefs and now they leave and they go and make these
incredible salaries and have these incredible careers in
these positions of leadership. And yet you still kind of stay
in that same spot. I totally a connect with you on
that because it's, it is something that I think, I don't
know how we remedy it, but I don't necessarily think it's
where nurses need to spend at least for me I looked and
thought this is not a good use of My time overall.
Does that make sense? Absolutely not.
It can one better you on that? Because like the role of the
nurse practitioner like I had free rein in the beginning.
Like, the residents are just like, oh my gosh, just help me
and I love that. And that was part of the fire
under me as like, I controlled that unit.
It was mine. I do what I want.
I kicked Physicians out of that unit, people were afraid of
being the only type of, then they started bringing in these
neurons intensivist and it's, they started again, it was like
that, whole scenario again where they started, Clamping down,
clamping down, clamping down to the point that my role literally
was to collect information and then we would all round as a
team. I felt like my job was to put in
orders as we walked around and laugh at the positions jokes
just to make him feel good. And I'm going this, I hate hate
hate medical scribe is what I was and he actually one of the
attendings yelled at me because I had excavated a patient I've
been there for 20 years. I know when somebody can be
extubated both, aren't they gone down for a procedure came back
an hour later needed to be excavated.
So I activate it and he came in and he was like, purple.
Always like, who are you to X2? I'm like, what do you mean?
How am I Dex? I'm the nurse practitioner.
That's what I do. I make sure that they are safe
and then they're ready to be extubated.
I activate them. And I was like, I just can't
deal with this anymore. It's too much.
And so, take me from the moment that you decide at your job.
I'm burned out. I am never getting the respect I
deserve. Where did you go from there?
I realized that a long time ago. So around 2008 2009, I had a
huge fight with my attending and this is the Pinnacle of my nurse
practitioner career where I was running everything with an iron
fist. I got into the fight with this
neurosurgeon and ironically this guy was that he was a total jerk
and it does is it PG show or not?
So no, you're good, you're good. But anyway, this is a type of
surgeon that would like her. Ask the residents throw phones
around the It choked them, just physical abuse, just all kinds
of mental abuse, whatever. And so I got into a fight with
them and told him, I was an idiot and he ran off to the
chairman and the chairman they suspended me for like three days
and I was like, my gosh. I was like devastated.
I was devastated. I'm like the unit's going to
fall apart and my imagination. This is the whole unit is
falling apart. I had to go to anger management
classes on top of it, which is really funny.
But does anybody that knows, me knows, the by boiling point is
like 3,000. Agrees and it's just so hard to
get me mad. Yeah.
But I came back and nobody had even noticed.
I was gone and for you what have you been doing the unit fell
apart? There was none of that and it
that's when the reality of It kind of crashed down on me.
And it took me awhile, I had to grieve that moment because I
thought it was so much more important than I was and I was
it started to question things like why am I spending 80 hours
here? Why why have I not taken a
vacation in three years? Like all that kind of stuff at
that point from, then on I was looking for an out without
realizing that. A business would be it.
I have one thing to say about what you just said, but you said
you came back and you realize that they didn't miss you and
that you were angry. I don't think that you were
angry at probably that person. It's probably been this buildup
of all these little micro issues that then it's like you're
right. You're bowing point was reached
in that one situation, but it had been boiling In four years,
that was my thought because I know that feeling, I understand,
I can connect to what you're saying, as you kind of watch the
Injustice of things all around you and you're like, okay take
it absorb it, take it, absorb it and then you're just like
enough, like I can't do this anymore, unfortunately.
So many nurses are at that point.
So many nurses can connect to that because we as nurses we
just absorb. We had we're in a situation we
don't like and we adjust to the situation and eventually you get
to the point we were like square peg round hole.
Thank you for sharing. During that.
So from from that moment that you decided it's time to go into
business. I believe, when I was looking at
your journey, you spent some time in Corporate America,
working for Walmart, I did and just to kind of piggyback off.
What you just said though that has been my modus, operandi is
all along is just take it, push it down.
That worked in my 20s and 30s, it's just not work anymore.
It doesn't. I can't push it down.
It's like and that's been part of my journey in businesses.
Just resolving all the stuff that I push down over the last
20 30. Thirty years that I got at the
actually backed at, you know, childhood or whatever that has
been absolute, the journey and we can talk about that a bit,
but you. So I was very fortunate, I
guess. So to take you from that point,
I knew I had to get out one of my chief residents, that I had
been really good friends with over the years I had just
graduated and he was moving down to Atlantic City, which is just
an hour away. And he was going by himself and
his, he was tasked with having to open an entire server.
Vascular Strokes enter single-handedly.
New grad and I was like that. But that's just the type of
environment we work in. And so I was like, well, I'll go
down to Atlantic City with you. So I went down with him and
that's where I learned all these other skill sets and I had my
freedom again, which was huge. But then I had my son, and I'm a
single mom by choice and my son was sperm donation.
So, it was all very planned and so I had my son in 2012.
And again, that's when I realized, I just can't do this
because I was on call 24/7 basically seven days a week.
Week with him trying to put this thing together.
I had also graduated with my PhD in 2011 and I thought, well, let
me just get an academic position so that's why did I applied for
it? I've got accepted as an
assistant professor in the nurse practitioner program at that
college and I'm like I'm and I have to quit like I can't do 80
hours a week, I can't do all the newborn.
So I went to academics and in academics oh my gosh I remember
my first day I walked in and now I'm used to like running Around
the hospital, like a chicken with its head, cut off come into
the the academic setting, I sit down, and I'm staring around.
And I'm like, what in the world am I supposed to do?
If I am like, one meeting on my calendar for the whole week, I'm
like, who are they actually pay me for this?
Like, I don't have a joke, a joke that was actually very
productive that year because I really didn't have all that much
to do. I wrote a lot of Articles.
So I started investigating all kinds of different stuff that I
Do. That's where the basis of my
business came from out of pure boredom in that.
Wow, what was your research? If you don't mind, if you can
just like sum it up. I really enjoy elements of
research. It's a lot of work to do
research. People need more respect for
that works. Well, I'm very proud that bass I
went into like, I was very interested in nurse practitioner
fellowships and my I had written literally the book for
neurosurgery for new nurse practitioners because we would
bring people in and they'd be gone three months later because
there was no, everything was implicit all the knowledge.
Implicit took it upon myself to write the manual, which is funny
because the intern one day was like, well we don't do stuff
like that around here. I'm like, look jerk.
I wrote The Manual of what we do.
I wanted to expand that to create a nurse practitioner
fellowship program for nurse practitioners.
Obviously in neurosurgery or neurocritical care because it's
such a nice wedding clothes and I felt like we could better
onboard them through some sort of like, step by step process
and that was your research. So that was the project that I
spent the most time on built it out.
Got neurosurgery was all on board with it until it came time
to pay for it. Then they're like, well we can't
you know, we're going to get the money for that and like but
anyway, they actually took the whole project from these which
was another one of my last straws and I like, okay we'll
take this now and I'm like, wait a minute.
I had the whole project basically stolen from me, it
really just was another one of those.
How many times are you gonna make this mistake?
But about that time Walmart. A starting their nurse
practitioner clinics down south and they needed a senior manager
to recruit nurse practitioners into the clinics.
A friend of mine was friends with the recruiter who was
looking for the nurse practitioner to do it.
And she said, well Katie's the, the director of acute care nurse
practitioner program, maybe she can help you.
So they called me and they're like, did anybody that would
want this position? And I was like me.
Yeah, it dropped in my My lap did that for a couple of years
and and it was fine, it was interesting.
But and that's where I met a whole bunch of nurses that were
doing amazing things all over the world that inspired the
podcast but they let us all go like a couple of years into it
and I thought well, now what? But I mean, when's the next time
something is going to fall on my lap way.
So Walmart, just let you guys all go to just laid you off.
That's all I guess. That's how they do it in
corporate. We would have it seem like every
month or every couple months, we'd have a big meeting.
And they'd say, oh, we just let the chief nurse practitioner
officer go and I'm like, well, that's not good.
Wow. So, what was their reason, but
they just shutting down the program or just felt like it.
No. They'd so they were, they had
these big plans to expand. So they had 18 clinics, and I
started already and our job was to staff them and make sure they
stayed staff, which we did a very good job of, but there was.
So it was so top heavy with senior managers and all these
people. I mean it was a massive, massive
project and they had Zero dollars from marketing, which
blows my mind. So they were dependent on walk
through traffic coming through. And they weren't getting walk
through traffic so they never had the money to, like, do more
stores. So then I guess they had the
brilliant of idea of. Why don't you just make the
market directors, find their own nurse practitioners, which seems
like. And that's did that to this day.
As far as I know, they're still only 18 clinics down there huh?
They didn't really get an expanded very much.
No, no 2013. So it was a long time ago.
It's about 10. Yeah, when did You in this whole
process from your PhD. When did you obtain your MBA?
Oh, I did that. Long long time ago, 2000 started
in 1999 by finished in 2002. He became a nurse in 96. 96 and
then you went directly into the MBA, I did my head, I wanted to
be, I like the nurse practitioner idea and I first
graduated I moved down the South Texas, and I was down there for
a couple of years and I was working in Houston and That's
when I was exposed to Pai, no idea what the physician's
assistant was, but they did all the VIN tricks.
I did all the lines in the ICU and I was like wow that's
interesting. So I looked into the nurse
practitioner role but I didn't like the curriculum for some I
don't know that am always thinking I'm like well let me do
my MBA and fulfill my dad's dreams or some wonky thing like
that I'm tend to be delusional sometimes but I'm like well I
have this amazing career in corp, the corporate world and
blah blah blah and now but ham I graduate It, I was already
making like fifty fifty five dollars an hour as a nurse.
I was an agency nurse working in a neuro unit, and I've been
there for so long that I actually oriented the new staff
I came in because I couldn't keep any staff.
But I got to name my own days Mayan times.
I would take three months off at a time and travel.
So it was great. I loved it.
So it was like no real incentive to go into the corporate world
when you were having such success at being a nurse because
I'd have to start over at square one and I would.
Yeah. I was making as a nurse.
Yeah. Granted, it's an investment I
suppose, but I wasn't willing to do it.
So you just tuck that away. And then that just opened up
other doors. As you picked up the Masters,
you've to post Masters as well. You have a Past Masters and the
cute. Yeah, yeah, so I'm all three.
Yep. And then the PHD on top of it.
Also incredible journey from that point at Walmart.
Take me through till you got your own business.
How did you get there? So, part of my role at Walmart
like, Said was to recruit a nurse practitioner.
So I went to the head of a A&P and I actually ended up in it's
called the global nurses, leaders Institute and it was
held out of Geneva Switzerland. So I went there and met Moses
from all over the world and they were amazing.
And I just want that it's great. They took people from Africa and
Australia and New Zealand and China and nurses and they
brought us all to and that's where I met Diana.
Mason and Diana. Mason does talk radio and And
all these things and I'm like, I didn't know, you could just
become a talk radio host. Like it says these things, it
was like, I was living in a bubble and yes, the bubble
popped as I started hearing other people's stories and I
thought, well, why can't I do these things?
We went to The Who and at the who there's a nurse there, who
is a nurse consultant. I'm like, why don't I have that
real? That's really cool.
I want to live in for me Geneva. I started asking all these
questions and when I came back from This experience I was just
blown away and that I just wanted to find more nurses that
were doing stuff like this because my conception of what I
could do as a nurse a nurse practitioner was completely
limited to the hospital. And now it was like anything is
possible and that just kind of opened the ideas of and then how
did you get your first client? What was the day that you
decided to set up shop for nurse Pandora's and just take it by
storm? I had decided to put together a
business course, I'd put together a couple businesses
before. That one was called Coordinated
Care, and I was doing Transitional Care for stroke
patients, which evolved into concierge nursing, and I did
that with a partner and we had, we took care of plastic surgery
patients after the operating room, and then I was helping
other students. I would host not parties, but
kind of masterminds at my health and talk to nurses that were
doing stuff. And one nurse was doing IV
hydration, another nurse was doing NCLEX reviews.
The nurse was doing Medicare navigation and all these
different ideas and so we were talked about them and stuff and
I would help them and kept coming back to me.
You should help nurses to do this, put the the step-by-step
business together. That was kind of the formation
of it. But I really dragged my feet
with this and I'm like, okay well I need to learn more.
It's always a specific because of death.
I got to learn like so much, so I spent all 2016 learning as
much as I could putting a decided to put together a
webinar. Let's funnel.
And I spent a good six months. Putting that stupid webinar
together and procrastinate and procrastinate it.
Finally decided that I couldn't tweak it anymore and I launched
it in January of 2017. And by this point, I had put in,
like, I would say 30 or 40 thousand dollars into how
education in this level. And I, I got for sales.
Once I did that webinar, I had like, 300 people signed up for
it and then I got for sale. So I was, I was Devastated.
I was like, well, horrible. It was a 597 program.
So I spent forty thousand dollars to make 2000, but when I
went to my coach, it was like, if you look at these numbers,
you're statistically on par, you're where you need to be.
I know you're devastated because you only had four sales, but you
had four sales that's for people that trusted in you and you have
to stop and you have to like make sure they do well and just
Build up other people's confidence that you can help
them and the way to do that is through testimony.
And that's what you've done. I mean, so many of your students
I've spoken with that, I've had the pleasure of seeing how
you've helped them in their businesses are generating
success are finding that they can Market themselves.
They can close those gaps and find people that want to trust
them. And and just recently, I had
Eric mayor on the Psychedelic plant nurse and and he said the
day that somebody signed up for one his courses and he realized
that he could teach and that he could have work outside of the
man. It was such an incredible
experience for him and you are doing that for people.
It is it is something that you are successful at and so it is
incredibly inspiring. I really connect to what you
were saying about. When you meet all these
incredible nurses, you're just like I want to do that.
I want to do that. Like you do see that whenever
I've been doing this podcast and you meet these nurses that are
doing things that you're just like, I did not know that this
world was out there and it really Is limited just to
whatever you can think about in your mind, whatever you open
your mind to that. Nursing degree can take you some
place within your imagination. You can take you there.
It's just like this golden ticket that I feel like more
nurses. Need to know that.
You get that. You get that Nursing degree.
And you have a golden ticket to whatever you want to make up and
just go for it as long as the markets there.
And the business aspect you really understand throughout
your journey, can you just can you describe to my listeners?
Maybe one of the biggest successes or are times that you
felt like this was a really big win for my career.
Honestly, I think that moment as I remembered being devastating,
but that was kind of a turning point for me.
I had done a couple more webinars after that and
generated some more income and then I stopped around was
February March, maybe I did three total.
And then I was in this group with Kevin Rogers and Kevin
Rogers is a freelance copywriter and he's used to be a stand-up
guy. Comedian.
But he's alert, he's hilarious. But he's so amazing.
So I was in one of his coaching programs and it was about
September. And I said, well, I want to
generate more income. I don't really know how and
stuff and he's like, well what have you done in the past?
And I told him about the webinar and he's like, okay let me get
this straight. The only thing that's generated
money is a webinar, so you stop doing it.
When you say it out loud and so he's like, well why don't you go
back to webinars and I thought, okay, well I really probably
didn't need to pay somebody to give me that advice.
It's all right. And I just needed to hear it.
And so I went back to webinars and they continue to generate
income for the business and then I took it to the next level in
pairing with these nurses that have Their own businesses
because that was the one thing that I had this Facebook group
at the same time, that was another thing that came out of
one of my coaching sessions is that you should start a Facebook
group, I'm like, okay, but what if nobody shows up and you had
all these kind of childhood, fears of you hosting, a party
that nobody comes to sure, but it's pretty quickly.
People joined and it was very interactive and stuff.
And the people that group kept saying to, somebody knows
somebody that does IV hydration to somebody know that somebody
that does lnc. I don't know how to do any of
these things. So, I started looking for nurses
that did that had a successful business that they could teach
and that they could teach the students.
That's where the business really took off was building those
Partnerships. Wow.
Building Partnerships with nurses, not not embracing a
scarcity mindset of mine. Mine, no, you can't help me.
But what I find. I've heard on another podcast
that you were on was when you finally joined in Partnerships
with nurses, you really became successful.
Oil you really were able to get the ball rolling as far as your
business and the thing that you wanted to create and I thought
that was so powerful and such a reminder that we are not in
competition against one another, but there's enough pie for
everyone to eat and to be full, we do not need to be panicked
that we are in competition with one another.
And in fact, if we Unite with one another, we will be a super
powerful force for good. For our patients for Selves tell
me about a challenge that you experience in your career that
you felt like, man, this was something I really had to
overcome my career, I've always or throughout my adult life.
Probably even childhood always would take in and push down and
just deal with it. I would have like these
imaginary conversations with people resolve the issue and
say, okay, I'm going to move on, I'm going to let this go, but it
still gets cemented down, all that stuff comes out when you
start a business. So when I first started the
Business. My coach was like why are there
no pictures of you on on the website?
And I was like, well I don't do that and she's like, okay well
here's a bunch of nurse website where they all have pictures of
themselves on the website and she's like, people want to get
to know you because my instinct was let me put up this corporate
E look like type business so that people think it's
legitimate and professional as opposed to me working out of my
basement. Interesting.
So I To overcome that another obstacle again was.
I did start out in the fear-based like my mind, my
mind. I would get angry.
If I saw another person that was doing something similar to me
and then I thought, well, I need to deal with it.
Like, what is the problem I quite yet?
Other people have the same business.
Of course, they're going to have the same business.
Like, that's just, that's just life.
Like, there's going to be stuff that's out there.
And even now with my some of my course directors, we've had
course, material And repurposed and I was like, well, not to
dismiss it like this is a huge problem and we have legal stuff
in place, but it happens and you can't actual cell information
information is everywhere that can't be the basis of our
programs. So if somebody does that shame
on them, Karma will get them eventually 100%.
Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
It's so interesting to even voice it and say it out loud
because you do, you do feel that way.
The feelings are still there. It's the A reminder that I'm
just doing this for me, that, there is something bigger than
me, that's controlling that whole thing, and that will come
back. And so I'm not going to spend
energy getting angry about that, or investing myself in that,
because it's like, if that's where they are, like, that's
really sad. But also imitation is the most
sincere form of flattery. So thank you.
And I'm going to just keep moving on and not let it bother
me because like, what I'm doing by, thank you for sharing that
and I think it's really true. So and you mentioned One Mentor
earlier, I can't recall her name but you said one Lady was really
big at helping you and I know you've had a ton of coaches and
mentors. So, maybe for this question, I'm
going to reword it a little bit and say, what is the difference
between a coach and a mentor from your perspective?
That's a good question. I coach, I see kind of as
someone that's helping you to almost like a cheerleader for
you or a feedback mechanism. So, if I talk to my coach
typically, I just tell them what's going on and that they
helped me kind of Work through what's going on.
Whereas a mentor is giving me Specific Instructions.
Like hey if you want to be a multi 7 Level figure business,
this is what you have to. You can need to go out and get
an operations person hire that person and let's get this done
now. So they're giving me more
strategy. Whereas the coaches giving more
support got it, they can certainly crossover and that
those lines get blurred but that's how I would differentiate
them. Yeah.
And have you had mentors that you felt like anybody that
really Duck out. That was huge in your life.
I've had tons of coaches and mentors over the years.
Some right now, I'm working with Perry Marshall and I've been
with him for years, love love, love his stuff.
I just really identify with him and ironically, I met him back
in 2017 when there was a, the solar eclipse.
So he was from like, First Nebraska, and he sent this
newsletter out one day. And he said, let's I want to go
see the eclipse because it was going to go through the path of
Nebraska. And we're going to camp out in a
cornfield who wants to plant them and we'll do some marketing
and I felt like weirdly compelled and I my son was three
or four that I'm yeah poor and I said alright I bought tickets
that afternoon and we went to First Nebraska to watch the
solar eclipse and that meeting changed my life in so many ways.
It was exactly. Is it just the the topics are
just like the whole environment like being in the eclipse and
your son being? Being there and everything.
The environment, the top they didn't talk about anything
marketing. And for years, I was very just
kind of like in the u.s. So I don't to say atheist, but I
was always just so like, in different, let's say to that
whole aspect and that sent me on a whole nother path of just a
spiritual journey and it has really helped my my business
because we actually didn't really talk anything about
marketing. We talked all about kind of like
bigger purpose, Which I never would have gone if I had thought
it was gonna be like, so it's almost kind of anti that stuff
but it shaded open to up, to that interesting.
I wonder if there's an element of that that actually is kind of
in line with business is understanding the spiritual
aspect of what's going on with you and attracting those things
to you. Even though you're not
necessarily with marketing, it feels very intentional right?
But with that it feels like a little less you a little less
you and a little more like stepping back and letting things
work outside of you and Thing sometimes, you don't have to
strong-arm something, right can just happen naturally and really
does begin to allowing things to come to me.
And they're really, really big Perry's.
Really big on that is just space in the morning, even if it's
like 20 minutes but up to an hour and it doesn't have to be
meditation but just set and list.
Let the noise go out and let the idea of come in and it has
important. Oh, I agree.
Oh my gosh, that's so cool. Right.
What advice would you have for a new nurse?
Starting off on a career? She just got her diploma.
She's sitting out after graduation.
Everyone's kissing her. Congratulations.
And she's internally panicking and wondering, what am I going
to do? What do I wish?
Some nurse would have told me. She would have known looking
back on herself. I love this space.
The entrepreneurial space. I know it's not for everybody,
but it's something to explore. And that's one of the things
that I want nurse propose to do is to offer kind of a different
specialty. For nurses to go into kind of
like, oh or ICU entrepreneurialism.
So, something along those lines. It's just another opportunity to
consider so just really exploring the opportunities.
We're partnering with more and more.
Nurses to bring more business opportunities to them and just
keep an open mind of what you could do.
Don't put limits on on yourself or saying nurses.
Don't do that, which is what I said, and it's not true.
Nurses do everything. There's it would be harder to
come up career. That didn't mess.
Then to list all the things you could do with nursing.
So yes, 100% agree. So the last part, dr.
Harris of our interview is the rapid fire questions.
Questions questions questions. These you can't prepare for
their just fly by the seat of the pants.
Are you ready? I think so, okay, when you're
not working, how do you like to spend your time reading books
and drinking, wine drinking water.
And so what are you currently reading and actually reading
story A worthy by Matthew dicks. And it is where they
fascinating, absolutely fascinating.
How to wrap story to teach people.
Is it kind of reminds me of the guy story brand the yeah, that's
who I finished his book called a million miles in a thousand
years. I read that right before, story
worthy and he had me in tears like felt that that was so
touching. It was the use of story to
explain certain ideas. Absolutely wonderful book when I
read that book and this is kind of a side note between you.
And I I felt like It helped me feel like what I was doing with
my podcast, like the the telling of the story, tell me your
story, tell me your journey. It did make me feel like, that's
what I want. Like he kind of helped make me
feel like that was what I was wanting to make or like build,
like he inspired me a lot when I read his book, I was like that,
that's what I want to do. I want to tell stories, I want
to tell people stories and let it Inspire them because I think
it is inspiring when you hear things and you just share things
about your life and people are Like, wow, if she can do it and
she sounds like a normal person that I can connect to, I could
do it. And so, I think it's really
beautiful. And then the last question is,
Have you ever been to a concert Katie?
And which one was it? What was your first concert you
attended? And I think it was probably
Bryan Adams, Bryan Adams country music, not what he's missing
country but Adams not my first real six-string.
Oh, oh, it's not country. I'm thinking of a, ok?
Ok, yes. Wow, that was your first
concert. It may have been one of my, my
first cup Maybe Might Have Been a Billy Joel concert.
I don't know, I didn't go to many concerts.
As a child, I was always kind of weird and didn't do those kind
of things. But those are the two that I
remember, really cool. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you for coming on to the podcast today.
And just being so open and vulnerable and and talking about
what you've done with your career.
It's incredible. And again, like I said, I'm a
huge fan. So keep it up, dr.
Katie Harris. Thank you so much.
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