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Today we have on the podcast Eva 64 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,500 Machado. I say that right? 65 00:03:36,500 --> 00:03:39,700 It's a diva Schumann now because I got married and changed my 66 00:03:39,700 --> 00:03:44,300 name but I still I know, thank you. 67 00:03:44,300 --> 00:03:47,200 I am so bad though because I left all my socials with Machado 68 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,800 because I was like, oh No One's Gonna like figure out who I am. 69 00:03:49,808 --> 00:03:53,700 Like it's too confusing for them and then I just like three days 70 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:56,200 ago, change them all after a year of being married to 71 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:57,800 Schumann. So it's Eva Schumann now. 72 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,500 Okay, well, congrats Okay, well, yeah, she's a married woman and 73 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:07,400 she is a nurse in business owner, that owns the purpose 74 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,800 people. This, where is the actual 75 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:13,600 nursing Lifestyle brand that supports nurses with merchandise 76 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:15,500 community, and give back efforts. 77 00:04:15,500 --> 00:04:19,899 She's just so passionate about how the pandemic affected nurses 78 00:04:19,899 --> 00:04:22,900 in our mindset. And she just wants to empower 79 00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:26,200 them and to send them off into the world better than how they 80 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,500 came to her. So it's just a really sweet 81 00:04:28,500 --> 00:04:31,700 story and I I love one of her shirts which is the reason why I 82 00:04:31,700 --> 00:04:35,000 reached out to her was enjoyed the journey and she has RN, you 83 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,500 know, Bolden and that part of the message, which I just again, 84 00:04:38,500 --> 00:04:40,800 you guys all know, if you listen to the podcast at all, that, 85 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,700 that's just my tagline. I just want people to just again 86 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:46,500 just realize that this is a beautiful journey in this 87 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:49,200 career. So welcome, thank you so much as 88 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:49,800 shoot. I know. 89 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:53,900 Mrs. Schumann, get it right, thank you so much. 90 00:04:53,900 --> 00:04:57,400 That was so sweet. So again for my listeners that 91 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,600 are tuning in and they're like okay what's her deal? 92 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:02,700 What's It's like I love for people to say who they are. 93 00:05:02,700 --> 00:05:05,500 Like how they see their roles and their job title. 94 00:05:05,700 --> 00:05:09,700 Yeah so I could go on for hours. I feel like about who I am, I do 95 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:12,600 so much and I have so many different things going on but I 96 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,500 have been a nurse for about five years. 97 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,300 My first year I was full time night shift. 98 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,600 I then moved to New Jersey to be with my now husband which we 99 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,800 just discussed and when I did that I got kind of whatever job 100 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,600 I could find because I really wanted to work at a specific 101 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:28,700 hospital where I was going to have no commute because I was 102 00:05:28,700 --> 00:05:31,400 already prioritizing. Certain things and I was like, I 103 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,800 live in the same town as this hospital. 104 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,700 I really want to work there and so ended up getting a per diem 105 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:38,800 role which I probably would have wanted full time but I got a 106 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,100 pretty enroll there and I still work there. 107 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,300 Now I work in cardiology so we specialize in electrophysiology. 108 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:47,700 It's a really thing rolled is because the hospital so 109 00:05:47,700 --> 00:05:50,900 specialized and it's awesome. I love it but during that 110 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:54,500 journey I learned that I absolutely love being pregame 111 00:05:54,500 --> 00:05:57,200 I'm a huge advocate for it. I talk about it all the time at 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,900 all my pages. Why it's so great. 113 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,900 I work full time out. Isn't that role for years. 114 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,400 And then when I started my business, a couple of years ago, 115 00:06:04,500 --> 00:06:06,700 which we actually hit three years in business, that's 116 00:06:06,700 --> 00:06:09,200 mind-blowing to me. But as I transitioned into, 117 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,200 okay, what do I want to do Beyond working at the bedside? 118 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:14,100 I want to add something in, but what is it? 119 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:18,100 And as I found my business which is now purpose people and I can 120 00:06:18,100 --> 00:06:20,400 call it that and it's great. But in the time where I was 121 00:06:20,407 --> 00:06:23,200 trying to figure out what I wanted to do, it got really 122 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,400 confusing and I started to try on our different things and then 123 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,700 I landed on this business, which you see today, which is so fun. 124 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,000 And exciting. And that's what I do. 125 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:35,400 Now, most of the time and then I also have my per diem role in 126 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:37,900 nursing. So today, what I do is on 127 00:06:37,900 --> 00:06:40,800 purpose people. It's interesting Lifestyle brand 128 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:44,000 and I'm super passionate about that, but then I also do nursing 129 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:45,800 as well. So I get the best of both 130 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,500 worlds. I think that's so great. 131 00:06:47,500 --> 00:06:49,400 And again, that's another thing I talked about here on the 132 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,700 podcast and that's why again you and I, when we were first kind 133 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:55,500 of chatting we'd so aligned because I do feel like being in 134 00:06:55,500 --> 00:06:59,700 that part time per diem does allow space. 135 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:03,700 And what I call margins for you to start to dream and to create 136 00:07:03,700 --> 00:07:06,000 and to see what your soul is saying. 137 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,300 Like, you were meant to do this and you were meant to create 138 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:11,500 this. And so by eating that space 139 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:13,700 again it took you awhile, you planted the seed. 140 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:15,100 You were like, okay, so what do I want to do? 141 00:07:15,100 --> 00:07:17,600 I think you started off with like four mugs or something like 142 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,200 that when I was reading your story and then you built up to 143 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,800 where you are today. So again those little four 144 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,200 seeds, you planted you watered them, you grew them, your 145 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,700 fertilize them and you still kept doing your other side 146 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:31,900 hustle and again, you work. Differently when you know, hey 147 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:34,700 man, I got this thing on the side that might build into 148 00:07:34,700 --> 00:07:38,200 something that I can use. I just think that's just so 149 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,700 enriching for nurses to hear that they have opportunities. 150 00:07:41,900 --> 00:07:44,600 You know, again to kind of step back for the bed. 151 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,700 So I still make decent money and even working part time maybe 152 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:50,500 adjust their lifestyle a little bit and give space to dream. 153 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,800 So I think that's awesome thousand percent. 154 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,000 I mean, even in the beginning, when I was in that nurture 155 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:58,400 phase, I was working full-time hours and this is when covid 156 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,100 first hit to, I was working in the Hammock full-time hours of 157 00:08:01,100 --> 00:08:05,300 nurse and I was just so passionate about purpose people. 158 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:08,500 I was just able to do both. I knew it was in the nurturing 159 00:08:08,500 --> 00:08:10,700 phase where I couldn't just be like Oh I'm gonna make money off 160 00:08:10,700 --> 00:08:14,200 this right now and decrease me. I was in nursing it took a long 161 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:17,700 time of me doing both but it was easy to do both because I was so 162 00:08:17,700 --> 00:08:20,700 passionate and you're right. It completely changed my mindset 163 00:08:20,700 --> 00:08:24,500 about my bedside roll. I just didn't put all my eggs in 164 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:25,800 one basket. Even though that was where all 165 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,000 my money was coming. I sure had this like, multi 166 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,500 passionate as Aspect to my life that made me able to live in my 167 00:08:32,500 --> 00:08:34,100 purpose. A lot easier and be more 168 00:08:34,100 --> 00:08:36,799 fulfilled than what I did. So that's completely right. 169 00:08:36,799 --> 00:08:39,900 Every single nurse that comes on here, says that same thing gave 170 00:08:39,900 --> 00:08:42,200 myself some space. I gave myself a little bit of 171 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,800 margin. I let myself dream and again you 172 00:08:44,808 --> 00:08:46,700 know, even if it's just I took two weeks off. 173 00:08:46,700 --> 00:08:48,000 I mean that's how it started from Wonder. 174 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:50,100 She just took two weeks off. She was like, I hate space, two 175 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:53,300 weeks, like let me see what I can do and then she just again. 176 00:08:53,300 --> 00:08:55,900 Just got quiet and just figured out what came to the search. 177 00:08:55,900 --> 00:08:58,800 What was coming up, what? And again, just asking yourself 178 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,200 that question that check In with yourself to see what it is that 179 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,900 you were meant to do. Because again, bedside work is 180 00:09:04,900 --> 00:09:08,400 so important and so it's important for society. 181 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,400 We need nurses, right? There's nothing. 182 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,700 Wrong with staying at the bedside, but I think what's 183 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:15,900 happening is that we think that that's all we can do is just be 184 00:09:15,900 --> 00:09:18,100 at the bedside. That's the only option you've 185 00:09:18,100 --> 00:09:21,700 got go to you burn out and I don't think it's sustainable and 186 00:09:21,700 --> 00:09:24,500 that's the part that I love about your brand and what you 187 00:09:24,500 --> 00:09:27,700 talked about so much. So what is the hardest part of 188 00:09:27,700 --> 00:09:30,100 owning your own business? When did Did you? 189 00:09:30,100 --> 00:09:32,000 I think that's the first question that I want to hear 190 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:34,900 about when you decided to go ahead and grease those hours at 191 00:09:34,900 --> 00:09:37,600 work and to really focus more on building your business. 192 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,200 I think, starting from the ground up, the hardest part was 193 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,900 believing in myself, in the mindset of I know I want to do 194 00:09:44,900 --> 00:09:47,900 something and it's okay. If it doesn't work out, it's 195 00:09:47,900 --> 00:09:51,200 okay. If what I try, is it, so leading 196 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:53,400 up to what I have today, which everyone sees me like, oh, 197 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:54,900 that's so great. That would be nice if I could do 198 00:09:54,900 --> 00:09:55,100 that. Right? 199 00:09:55,100 --> 00:09:58,200 But before that, it's like you said, I traveled an arid. 200 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,200 I gave myself space and I Had a bunch of different things that 201 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:04,600 just did, they weren't it. And when I realized that they 202 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,500 weren't it, I was okay with it and I just tried something else. 203 00:10:07,500 --> 00:10:10,400 And so that was really hard to believe in yourself. 204 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:12,000 Like, okay, I guess this isn't it. 205 00:10:12,100 --> 00:10:13,600 Let me, I guess I'll try something else. 206 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:15,500 Instead of just sticking with the one thing that you first 207 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:17,500 thought that you wanted to do and then just going with that 208 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:23,500 forever, I had a book club that I started and it was a mindset 209 00:10:23,500 --> 00:10:25,800 book club and I did that and then I did a round of it. 210 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,500 I was like, I don't know why, I'm just not feeling it. 211 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:29,600 I don't know if it's that, I don't want. 212 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:33,000 Mentoring people, is it this is it that picking it apart, then 213 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,200 another round of it, and then after that, I was like, I just 214 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,000 have to let it go. And just know that I'm starting 215 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,300 from scratch again with something else, but I know I 216 00:10:40,300 --> 00:10:42,100 like nursing. So I would pick apart the parts 217 00:10:42,100 --> 00:10:44,500 of things that I liked. I didn't like and take that with 218 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:47,600 me and go to the next thing. And then you like, you said, so, 219 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,200 kind of the story of I started with six mugs. 220 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,500 I was like, let me play around with product, gotta look a 221 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:56,600 mentor who just taught me the basics, like, very, very basic 222 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,300 on how to do product and the Launched it. 223 00:11:00,300 --> 00:11:02,100 I knew right away that it was it. 224 00:11:02,100 --> 00:11:05,100 And so getting to that point was really hard getting to the point 225 00:11:05,100 --> 00:11:07,800 of like, okay, I know I want something more about what is it? 226 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,300 And I just want it given to me. Now I want my purpose given to 227 00:11:10,300 --> 00:11:11,900 me now. And so that was really 228 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:14,000 challenging the beginning. Once I got to the point of 229 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,600 finding what it was, it's been so easy. 230 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,400 I mean, not so easy. I shouldn't be tradition lie. 231 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:23,000 Yeah, sounds along the way. Yeah, it felt so good. 232 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:24,800 When I landed on what I knew I wanted to do for sure. 233 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:26,400 Yeah the work is different, right? 234 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,600 Like York with a different. There's work that inspires you 235 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,500 and Then work that drains you and I think that's the problem 236 00:11:32,500 --> 00:11:35,700 sometimes with nursing is that initially, it's work, that's 237 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:40,000 inspiring, but the system is set up to absolutely drain you and 238 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,100 tank and just completely empty your tank. 239 00:11:42,300 --> 00:11:45,600 And so, what I want for more nurses to here is kind of like 240 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,900 what you were saying. So find the work that also makes 241 00:11:48,900 --> 00:11:51,900 you feel like it's not work. Even though it is work, we're 242 00:11:51,900 --> 00:11:54,300 made to work as creatures as humans. 243 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,300 I believe that we need work. We need purpose, time, and time 244 00:11:58,300 --> 00:12:00,000 again. As I work with the Really 245 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:02,100 population. I see stories of they stop 246 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:05,800 working and then they die. It's like you kind of need like 247 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,600 some type of purpose, right? And I'm not saying it's 100% all 248 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:12,000 the way that always that way. If you pick up a hobby you know 249 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,600 you might be able to stay off some of it but I have nothing 250 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:16,800 this like as soon as I stopped working it's like the body's 251 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,500 just got like a really cool. I just go to sleep, you know, 252 00:12:18,500 --> 00:12:21,500 and so it's something that we need to be doing but it doesn't 253 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:24,200 need to be a work that completely changed your life 254 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,500 Source, your energy. How you feel about yourself? 255 00:12:26,500 --> 00:12:29,600 So finding work gives life to the bones, I think. 256 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:32,200 Is so cool. So when did you decide to go 257 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:35,000 ahead and decrease those hours and to go ahead and say the 258 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:36,900 business needs more my time and attention. 259 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,500 I got to stuff away from bed. So okay, so I started my 260 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:42,000 business at the end of 2019, pre covid. 261 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:44,400 That's when I launched those six mugs and I launched my first 262 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,300 little apparel line of three thing before covid and then 263 00:12:47,300 --> 00:12:49,600 covid him, I grew my business, a lot during covid. 264 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:51,400 I learned a lot but I was still working full-time. 265 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,000 So as you can imagine, that was very draining and just but it 266 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,100 was, it was draining. But it wasn't because I didn't 267 00:12:58,100 --> 00:13:00,000 have all my other outside life. Right? 268 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,000 We weren't hanging out with family, were hanging out with 269 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,900 friends, so I had time to do both and so it actually kept me 270 00:13:05,900 --> 00:13:09,300 busy in a way as well. And then 2021 was when I 271 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:11,700 realized I needed to decrease my hours because the business 272 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:14,000 started doing well. That was the year I got married 273 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,500 as, you know, know and so I was planning the wedding what some 274 00:13:17,500 --> 00:13:20,000 whole time and having all these outside commitments come back 275 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,700 into my life because things started to settle down and we 276 00:13:22,700 --> 00:13:25,800 were starting to transition back to our old lifestyle a little 277 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,400 bit and that is when not the burnout. 278 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,300 But When it just became really clear to me that I needed to 279 00:13:32,300 --> 00:13:36,100 step back from something, something had to give because I 280 00:13:36,108 --> 00:13:38,500 got married. When I my honeymoon, it's crazy, 281 00:13:38,500 --> 00:13:41,200 the amount of stuff I was doing, but I got back in holiday season 282 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,700 is really busy when you have a product-based business because 283 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:47,600 of gifts for Christmas and I had a video go viral and early 284 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,300 December and I had ships at work that I was supposed to be at and 285 00:13:51,300 --> 00:13:54,300 things went viral, and I had hundreds and hundreds of orders 286 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:58,300 to do, and I just was like, if I could choose right now, I would 287 00:13:58,300 --> 00:14:01,000 so much rather be doing these. Visibly excited about this. 288 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,600 That was my breaking point. Where I was do I call it a work 289 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,900 like do I stay up? 24 hours. 290 00:14:04,900 --> 00:14:07,800 What am I going to do? And I was in a full panic and 291 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,000 then I was like, this is the point where something has to 292 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:11,700 give. And so my commitment going to 293 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:15,500 2022 was to use all the money that I had reinvested in saved 294 00:14:15,500 --> 00:14:17,600 in the business. And never spent a dime of just 295 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,300 because I was like, like I said, before knew, I needed to nurture 296 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:21,800 it. So I kind of want to saving all 297 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,400 that money in my business account, and I was like, okay, 298 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,700 yeah, 20:22 my commitment to myself. 299 00:14:26,700 --> 00:14:29,100 Is that I'm going to work? My minimum requirement as a per 300 00:14:29,100 --> 00:14:30,000 diem nurse. Nurse. 301 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,400 And then I'm going to do my business all the other time and 302 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,300 see what I can do. And so that's what I've done all 303 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:37,400 year, so far. And that's been very 304 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,600 overwhelming and just feeling a lot of pressure to make the 305 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:42,300 business do well. But it's what I want to be doing 306 00:14:42,300 --> 00:14:46,100 and I felt so good this year. I haven't felt burnt out at all. 307 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,400 It's so nice. And I tell people, too. 308 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,900 It's kind of like you were saying before if what you're 309 00:14:50,900 --> 00:14:53,300 inspired to do is something that's not nursing, it's okay. 310 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:56,300 To say, I love being a nurse, I just don't love, being a nurse 311 00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:59,100 full-time, and that's my little model that I go by is, I'm like, 312 00:14:59,100 --> 00:15:00,500 it's not that Like being a nurse. 313 00:15:00,500 --> 00:15:04,000 It's that I like this more and I don't like being a nurse 314 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,300 full-time. I like being able to go one 315 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:09,700 12-hour shift, we get the bedside and just be lit up and 316 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:13,400 be like energetic and running around the unit and just like 317 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,600 having a great time that tations the not be back for a week. 318 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,600 And I love that because when I go home, I have this other 319 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,600 thing, I'm really passionate about. 320 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,400 And so that's kind of when I decided to take that shift was 321 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,600 when it really just became too much to handle on. 322 00:15:24,700 --> 00:15:27,600 When I hear nurses talk about different aspects of 323 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:30,600 understanding business, right. We have a really my Optic View 324 00:15:30,700 --> 00:15:33,700 of what nurses can do from a business perspective. 325 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,000 And again, we just get taught. Like, once you get out of 326 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:38,900 school, go right to the bedside. That's what your take. 327 00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:40,700 Whatever job the hospital offers you. 328 00:15:40,900 --> 00:15:44,400 The hospital is your employer. You are their slave. 329 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,400 So, just whatever they give, you be thankful, you have a job. 330 00:15:47,400 --> 00:15:50,800 And I just something about that, just rubs me wrong on every 331 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,700 aspect that. So, I'm like, I think we need to 332 00:15:53,700 --> 00:15:58,200 understand Better Business, how to Market ourselves, and what 333 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:00,700 we're doing. So what are some The aspect of 334 00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:04,500 business that have been the easiest and then also cross it 335 00:16:04,500 --> 00:16:07,900 with the most difficult that you've had to really invest in 336 00:16:07,900 --> 00:16:09,800 yourself, I really had to learn this. 337 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:11,800 And then the stuff that her nursing skills, made it really 338 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,500 easy for you to just transition. Yeah. 339 00:16:13,500 --> 00:16:16,400 So let me just start by saying that not having a business 340 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,800 background, has been the most empowering part of my journey 341 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,700 because when you're starting a business, it's so scary. 342 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:24,100 You're so vulnerable. Like, you're just so scared to 343 00:16:24,108 --> 00:16:26,600 screw it up and not having a business background. 344 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,000 And knowing I went to school to be a nurse, not a business 345 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:30,700 owner. Has been so empowering because 346 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:34,300 I'm like oh guess what? I get to screw up all the time 347 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:38,000 and it's totally fine because I'm not supposed to know this. 348 00:16:38,300 --> 00:16:40,300 And so, it's a lie. It was actually way better than 349 00:16:40,300 --> 00:16:42,800 like being a new grad nurse. When you're like I'm supposed to 350 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,100 know this man. I'm supposed to know, they're 351 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:48,100 supposed to know that, and you can talk yourself crazy, right? 352 00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:50,800 Whereas I went into this and I was like, oh girl, I'm the 353 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:53,300 messing up left and right and it doesn't matter because I'm not 354 00:16:53,300 --> 00:16:55,300 supposed to know. And so I gave myself a lot of 355 00:16:55,300 --> 00:16:58,600 Grace using that mindset, which I think made things a lot easier 356 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:00,900 for me. I think So yeah, I think a lot 357 00:17:00,900 --> 00:17:02,800 of nurses need to hear that because that is so good. 358 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:04,300 Right. But one of the hardest things, 359 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:07,099 for me, I think was just a my perfectionism and the passion I 360 00:17:07,099 --> 00:17:10,700 had because I wanted it to be what I wanted it to be and so 361 00:17:10,700 --> 00:17:12,900 things that I'm getting upset about in the beginning, I'm 362 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:15,400 still so embarrassed one time, someone got the wrong order, 363 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,000 right? Like human error like we switch 364 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,099 the packages, they went to the wrong people, or someone got the 365 00:17:19,108 --> 00:17:20,900 wrong size and something, right? Like they were supposed to get a 366 00:17:20,908 --> 00:17:23,400 large but we pulled the medium. Something, the medium, the email 367 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:24,599 Us. Customer service, right? 368 00:17:24,599 --> 00:17:25,599 Hey. Got the wrong thing. 369 00:17:25,900 --> 00:17:29,300 I was in hysterics. Bawling my eyes out because I 370 00:17:29,300 --> 00:17:30,800 was Just wanting it to be perfect. 371 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,800 And I'm like, this is my baby. It's so fragile. 372 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:35,600 If we start screwing things up, I was just a mess. 373 00:17:35,700 --> 00:17:38,300 And so it took a long time for me to get over. 374 00:17:38,300 --> 00:17:41,800 Those humps of when things got went wrong, I would use that 375 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,400 mindset. Like I said, I like it's okay, 376 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:44,900 it's okay. But when it was something that I 377 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:47,800 felt, I was supposed, that's just something that you just pay 378 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,600 attention, Eva, come on. I would really put myself down 379 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,600 about and so that was really hard to me. 380 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:55,500 Thank God for my husband because he's super helpful and he's just 381 00:17:55,500 --> 00:17:58,800 like, you need to relax. But I think my perfectionism the 382 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,000 other total Husband and them together one. 383 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:06,600 That's like, I bet you got a just like, it's all going to be. 384 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:08,200 Okay. Yeah, let's just have some fun 385 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,700 while we do it. No Perry. 386 00:18:09,700 --> 00:18:10,700 Says have fun with. It's not. 387 00:18:10,700 --> 00:18:14,500 Perfect. So bad, so bad. 388 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,900 So funny, we went on this vacation, I'm so type. 389 00:18:17,900 --> 00:18:20,800 A, my brother at some point was like he's like okay so you've 390 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:22,700 literally booked every minute of this trip. 391 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,900 Is there time. Calculated time for rest? 392 00:18:24,900 --> 00:18:27,000 I was like, yes, you get five minutes and then we're back on 393 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,800 schedule. It's just exhausting thing. 394 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,500 He talks about all the Time now is like your calculated time for 395 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:35,500 rest and so the schedule. Yeah, we found our we've had our 396 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:37,500 match is the most difficult part for me. 397 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:41,800 So just that perfectionism, just really, really the passion that 398 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,700 I had behind it. Kind of caused it to be 399 00:18:43,700 --> 00:18:46,900 difficult for me because I want it to be perfect. 400 00:18:46,900 --> 00:18:50,200 I wanted it to do well. And so that was good because I 401 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,800 had a lot of work ethic and I was hard working in building it 402 00:18:53,900 --> 00:18:56,700 but also just really hard on myself in the beginning, in some 403 00:18:56,700 --> 00:18:59,000 ways as well. But the easiest part for me was 404 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,100 just The alignment I think once I realized that it was what I 405 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,200 wanted to do, kind of as I shared before getting to the 406 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:05,600 point of learning that. Okay. 407 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:08,500 This is it for me. Our this is what I really like 408 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:13,000 you can go so much further so much faster when you're aligned 409 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,800 with what you're doing and you're doing the right thing and 410 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,500 that's a bedside scale to if you're even working in the wrong 411 00:19:17,500 --> 00:19:20,200 specialty like it's going to be so much harder for you to love 412 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,400 what you do, right? And so it was easy for me to 413 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,500 mark it, I love marketing and so it was fun for me to grow a 414 00:19:27,500 --> 00:19:29,400 social media brand and do that side of it. 415 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,500 And I thought that came really naturally to me as well. 416 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:33,600 So for the social media marketing, which is something 417 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,000 that a girlfriend and I we were just talking we're like, this is 418 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:39,100 literally so exhausting, how do you keep going? 419 00:19:39,100 --> 00:19:43,000 Because it is, it is like a, it's some people full-time jobs. 420 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,700 Like that's what they do, they just help you do social media 421 00:19:45,700 --> 00:19:47,900 marketing. How did you keep yourself going 422 00:19:47,900 --> 00:19:49,800 at the times. You're just like, I cannot post 423 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,900 another thing. I get like maybe it's an elder 424 00:19:51,900 --> 00:19:53,200 Millennial thing. I just get. 425 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:56,200 So posting fatigue. I'm like I just can't put more 426 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,700 stuff out there even though I make myself do it. 427 00:19:58,900 --> 00:20:00,100 That's kind. How I feel. 428 00:20:00,100 --> 00:20:02,900 Like, how do you overcome that? I have always been someone 429 00:20:02,900 --> 00:20:07,500 creates way more than I consume. I used to never consume or 430 00:20:07,500 --> 00:20:10,800 create I just was like I hate social media, it's so stupid and 431 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:14,200 then as I started a brand, I was like, okay, obviously I'm going 432 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,400 to need to be on these apps and I started creating green. 433 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,300 Creating hey, guys, and thanks for listening to another episode 434 00:20:21,300 --> 00:20:23,500 that doctor nurse podcast. Unscripted. 435 00:20:23,700 --> 00:20:25,600 I would like to take this time to let you guys know about the 436 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,000 doctor nurse podcast. Website on this website, I have 437 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:30,900 free. Resources for nurses that are 438 00:20:30,900 --> 00:20:33,400 looking to up their career, maybe start a side hustle. 439 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,800 I also have my Etsy shop where I've created really cute digital 440 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,100 downloads for nurse practitioners in regards to 441 00:20:41,100 --> 00:20:45,900 life, pregnancy planning, as well as portraits guys. 442 00:20:45,900 --> 00:20:50,800 Check out my resources at the doctor's podcast.com and let's 443 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,800 get back to the episode and I really still to this day, do not 444 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:55,800 consume much. I think consuming too much 445 00:20:55,900 --> 00:20:58,300 contributes that burn. I think it's 50% of it is 446 00:20:58,300 --> 00:21:00,600 because then you're like, look, And then you're in your head and 447 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,400 then we go to create your like, well, this person did it this 448 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:07,500 way and it gets to be too much. It's too much stress and so I'm 449 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:09,300 a fan of. Yes, you have to be relevant and 450 00:21:09,300 --> 00:21:11,600 what are the trends right now? You have to be on social, right? 451 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,700 And consume some but I think I try to limit the consumption and 452 00:21:15,700 --> 00:21:17,700 then I run three accounts right now. 453 00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:20,000 It is a lot. I totally get and I don't think 454 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,500 that it's an elderly, anything like you said, I think it's just 455 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:24,200 a thing. When you have to create 456 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:28,200 constantly, it's a lot and I think using one of my first 457 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:31,600 Mentor I ever had taught me this if you're not in the mood, it's 458 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,400 okay. But when you are in the mood 459 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:38,200 lean in really hard. So yeah so yeah you're waking up 460 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,500 and you thought you were going to do XYZ today but if you're in 461 00:21:40,500 --> 00:21:43,700 the mood to do something else except that and do it in a 462 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:46,500 really hard with the you feel good about that day and that 463 00:21:46,500 --> 00:21:48,200 helps a lot. Yeah, that's really good. 464 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,800 Some things as well which helps but part of it too. 465 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:54,700 I think is the the passion and also viewing my aunt as my 466 00:21:54,700 --> 00:21:57,300 community. So instead of it being like Oh I 467 00:21:57,300 --> 00:22:00,300 have to post it so I have to Irvin show up. 468 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:03,000 And so then that let like changing lens helps a little bit 469 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,400 too. I mean, it doesn't fix it 470 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:07,100 because it is still an action. You have to complete, but I 471 00:22:07,108 --> 00:22:09,100 think when you're trying to view it as a well these people need 472 00:22:09,100 --> 00:22:11,300 me or they're relying on me to show up for them because I've 473 00:22:11,300 --> 00:22:13,600 cultivated this community and it's really important to me that 474 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,500 can help as well. I mean, like I said, doesn't fix 475 00:22:15,500 --> 00:22:16,800 everything but that help. Yeah. 476 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,400 Okay, yeah. Mindset shift, right? 477 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,500 Like, that's what you're talking about is just like putting it 478 00:22:20,500 --> 00:22:22,600 putting a different lens on it because sometimes again, you 479 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,600 just look at it through the lens of like this is really daunting 480 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:27,000 and exhausting, but if you're like know, how can I show up 481 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,600 today? How can I be present today? 482 00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,600 My community needs, Me to post something and to encourage them 483 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:35,200 and to stand there and the Gap. And you know, say something that 484 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,400 maybe somebody else wouldn't say or share something that they all 485 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,900 need to hear again you, right? It's that same Act of service 486 00:22:40,900 --> 00:22:43,100 that you do through your products, through your 487 00:22:43,100 --> 00:22:45,800 merchandise, through your community efforts, I saw that 488 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,800 you went on to the hospitals and you wouldn't took care packages 489 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,000 to the nurses. And you were just, you just put 490 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,600 a bunch of stuff in a little bag. 491 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,400 And you're like, even if one hits one thing brings Joy, 492 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:58,200 that's all I wanted that package to do. 493 00:22:58,300 --> 00:22:59,400 You put a bunch of stuff in there? 494 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,100 You're like I'm okay if just one thing, totally makes it and 495 00:23:03,100 --> 00:23:06,700 lands on a fertile ground that creates a seed that Sparks like 496 00:23:06,700 --> 00:23:08,800 that brings joy. And so when you think about it 497 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,200 again through that lens just switch out that other lens, put 498 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,200 the other one in and fixate on that. 499 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,000 I'm not saying you're still not going to have that feeling. 500 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,000 That feeling is still there. Your emotions are real, they're 501 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:18,800 there. But you just got to talk 502 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,500 yourself into a different mindset. 503 00:23:21,500 --> 00:23:23,600 I think that's really good. And you've mentioned something 504 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:25,900 before before I get to the next question. 505 00:23:25,900 --> 00:23:27,900 But I really want to kind of harp on this because you said 506 00:23:27,900 --> 00:23:31,300 something about mentorship twice now, Now, and I really liked us, 507 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:34,500 focus in on that because mentors I feel like our little bit 508 00:23:34,500 --> 00:23:36,700 lacking in there saying especially when you're in the 509 00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,100 hospital. I just kind of feel like you're 510 00:23:38,100 --> 00:23:41,100 a lone wolf and you're just kind of hustling. 511 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,400 And you really hope that your team members helped you on the 512 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,000 floor and different things like that. 513 00:23:45,100 --> 00:23:48,000 But especially with the nurse eat their young mentality that 514 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,500 we've had, tell me a little bit about mentors that you've had 515 00:23:50,500 --> 00:23:52,800 and really how they've helped shape you and your career. 516 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,200 I completely agree with what you said. 517 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:58,100 I don't think I've had many nursing mentors in the field of 518 00:23:58,100 --> 00:24:00,600 Nursing in general. Can't think back as like, oh, 519 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,300 when I was a new grad, this person really took me under 520 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:05,600 their wing. I think in my new role there's 521 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,700 definitely in her second think of that do that for our new 522 00:24:07,700 --> 00:24:10,400 grads now, but I wasn't a new grad when I came into this role. 523 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:13,200 So I do think it is really challenging in the nursing space 524 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:15,400 in business. I sought them out because I 525 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,500 really needed it. And like I said, I knew I didn't 526 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:19,800 have any business background so I was like, if I'm not getting 527 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:23,200 help, I'm never gonna get there. I need somebody to help me and 528 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,500 teach me and so I had a few different mentoring experiences. 529 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:30,900 One of them was like a mastermind So there is Q&A calls 530 00:24:30,900 --> 00:24:33,500 you do have access to their mentorship but there's also free 531 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:37,000 resources and videos and events almost that you go to online 532 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,000 virtual events. And that one was really helpful 533 00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,900 because I got community of other business owners who then helped 534 00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:43,800 me as well. So that was just really 535 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,500 interesting in a cool way to do it. 536 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,700 And I got some of my biggest questions answered through that 537 00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:51,700 experience, but just starting out off the bat, I had a mentor 538 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:55,700 and I think a lot of people have the mindset that mentoring has 539 00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:58,700 to be so expensive and I got my first Mentor for. 540 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:03,100 I think it was $150 total and I got five or six calls with her. 541 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,900 And she taught me exactly how I was going to go to a wholesaler 542 00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,000 and get a product. And who would I have to call to 543 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,600 get it printed for me? And then how would I get it 544 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,300 shipped? And what website do I need to 545 00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:16,500 use for that? And it was a granular stuff that 546 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:19,300 I just did not know that I needed to know and it was well 547 00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:21,400 worth the money and it was not, I don't view that as very 548 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,800 expensive for that many calls and one-on-one time with some 549 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,200 yeah, no, it's not. So yeah, that experience is what 550 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:29,300 really launched me to even be able to do what I do. 551 00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:31,200 Do. And so I think it's crazy to 552 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:34,000 think nurses don't have that because when I say oh that was 553 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,200 so critical to my journey, imagine being a new nurse, 554 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,500 especially in today's world and not having that. 555 00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:41,500 And so I think it's a matter of burnout too though because who 556 00:25:41,500 --> 00:25:45,000 wants to step up and not be paid to be a leader and take everyone 557 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:47,500 under their wing and make sure that they're nurtured. 558 00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:50,500 And yes, there are great Souls. Yes, you do that. 559 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:53,100 But it's few and far between because they're not being 560 00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:54,400 compensated, they're burnt out already. 561 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,800 They're already being asked to do so much and so it comes back 562 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,300 to the same issue of just the Healthcare System. 563 00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:02,600 Now in general so it's heartbreak yes yes. 564 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,000 You know you're you've said that perfectly, you've nailed it 565 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,200 right on the head is this is we have to pay people for what they 566 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,600 know because it shows that we value when you pay you pay 567 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,700 attention and when somebody is out there giving your knowledge 568 00:26:17,700 --> 00:26:20,800 and you've know that you put some skin in the game, then you 569 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:23,300 spend the time to go like okay I need to be absorbing this. 570 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:25,400 I need to understand, I need to make sure I get the bang for my 571 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,500 buck. I need to make it does motivate 572 00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:29,300 you in a different way when you pay for it. 573 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,400 I don't think it's wrong to request it. 574 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,400 I think you're 100%, right. I think, again, showing that 575 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,400 value. And that's why I put a lot of 576 00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,600 people that on my podcast that are like, Hey listen, I want to 577 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,900 teach I want to show you guys how I did my career but I 578 00:26:42,908 --> 00:26:44,600 require payment. I think that's wrong. 579 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,100 That's their time, that's their energy. 580 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:47,900 I think. Also, if somebody doesn't have 581 00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:50,400 baby all of it, then you can always go like, Hey, listen, 582 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,400 I'll you got a $500. It's like, okay, that's 583 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,000 everything you got, okay? I can do it. 584 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,500 That's the stuff that I feel. We can then show our heart on 585 00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:59,300 and just be like, all right, that's all they had. 586 00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:02,300 Just drop the price for that, one person or whatever it is. 587 00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:04,900 You kind of set in your mind. It's going to be either charity 588 00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:07,500 bucket, and that's the stuff that you give, but I totally 589 00:27:07,500 --> 00:27:10,600 agree with you and I find it. So disheartening to hear that, 590 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,100 we do start off in this career and there really is no one that 591 00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:14,900 just kind of goes. Hey, let me show you how to be 592 00:27:14,900 --> 00:27:17,800 successful here, and I don't know why hospitals, don't invest 593 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,200 more money in that, I was going to say, yes, some say no from 594 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,600 the business lens, something that I used a lot. 595 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:24,800 When I started my business was if you look at it from the ones 596 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,400 that there's three things time energy and money if you don't 597 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,300 have one of them you're just gonna have to work really hard. 598 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,200 Together to. So if I didn't have the money 599 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,900 like if you're like, I want to start this thing but I seriously 600 00:27:33,900 --> 00:27:36,700 have no money right now. I'm in debt XYZ. 601 00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:38,400 You can't do it. Okay, you don't have money. 602 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,000 That just means you're going to have to go way harder with time 603 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,200 and energy. You're going to put way more 604 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:43,300 energy in. You're going to go find the 605 00:27:43,308 --> 00:27:44,300 books, you can have to Google it. 606 00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:46,700 You're going to have to if through and then you're going to 607 00:27:46,700 --> 00:27:49,300 have to you know that's going to take you more time and more 608 00:27:49,300 --> 00:27:51,300 energy, right? Because you don't have money. 609 00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:54,000 So money gets you there faster but you don't need money and so 610 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:55,600 same thing. If you don't have a lot of time 611 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,200 and you're like, I need to learn this right away. 612 00:27:57,300 --> 00:27:59,100 You're probably going to spend a little bit more money to learn 613 00:27:59,100 --> 00:28:00,900 that. Real quick from someone who can 614 00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:03,100 just spit, you all the information you need, right? 615 00:28:03,100 --> 00:28:06,900 And so when you look at it like that, that's a good tool to use 616 00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:08,200 as well. When you're looking at it from a 617 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,100 business perspective, I don't know how that translates as well 618 00:28:10,100 --> 00:28:11,300 into nursing. I'd have to think a little 619 00:28:11,300 --> 00:28:14,000 deeper but I know for business that that's a really good one to 620 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,000 use as well if you're in a different position like not in 621 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,200 the same position financially and time. 622 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,200 If they have kids like you said you're like my toddlers in the 623 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,100 background like whatever you know we all have different 624 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:26,500 things going on that are going to affect our lives. 625 00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,000 So I think that's a good one to use. 626 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,300 Yeah, yeah. Yeah. 627 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,200 Yeah, I love that. That is so good guys. 628 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,300 Hold on to that time money energy. 629 00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:36,800 So you just seeing where you're deficient on and then just 630 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,100 realizing that you're going to have to just blow through the 631 00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:42,400 other two because unfortunately, you're deficient on the one. 632 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,200 So and just that it is what it is. 633 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,200 There's just laws that govern the world, right? 634 00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:49,400 And so you've got to respect the laws and as much as you're like, 635 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:50,300 man, I don't want to pay for that. 636 00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:53,100 It's like I know that's future time you get your energy so like 637 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:55,500 just pay it, you know. So I think that's really really 638 00:28:55,500 --> 00:28:57,500 good. I wanted to also know if there 639 00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:00,800 was one aspect to your business, That you were like, I will not 640 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:02,600 let this go. This is the one thing that we 641 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,900 will continue to do because it is so successful. 642 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,800 I Cannot drop this one thing. What would we have? 643 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,500 Three pillars and I'm like, I'll never leave all three but when 644 00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:12,900 you talk about, well, just tell me the three million. 645 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,200 So I'm like all three of those. I know for a fact, like I will 646 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,900 always have them, but I think the give back efforts this style 647 00:29:19,900 --> 00:29:22,200 that we do giving back. I don't, we'll never, I'll never 648 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,900 touch it. I love it. 649 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:26,700 So, I made it up, I call it cyclical giving, so it's 650 00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:29,100 basically giving and seasons in different ways. 651 00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:31,300 So, so there are companies out there who are like, we're going 652 00:29:31,300 --> 00:29:35,200 to get 15% to this charity, you know, profit or sales, that's 653 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:36,400 our mission. That's what we do this. 654 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:41,400 So we give to, whereas, I just started this way of giving where 655 00:29:41,700 --> 00:29:43,800 we just asked the community. What do you guys need right now, 656 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,600 who needs help? Does this specific person need 657 00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:46,800 help? Is it this charity? 658 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:50,500 Is it the care packages we did? And then we'll just run 659 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:54,100 campaigns and then three months later will be like, okay, now 660 00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:55,000 what? And then just do something 661 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,900 completely different like out of left field and so it keeps it 662 00:29:57,900 --> 00:30:01,700 really fun and I Want to have fun in business and so that 663 00:30:01,700 --> 00:30:03,700 keeps it really fun for me. And it also keeps the community 664 00:30:03,700 --> 00:30:06,700 really engaged Keeps Us relevant with what's going on what people 665 00:30:06,700 --> 00:30:08,500 needed during coitus completely different than what they need 666 00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:11,400 now. So it's fun to be able to shift 667 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,800 and make giving back. Feel fun for me, so that's 668 00:30:15,300 --> 00:30:17,500 something I don't purchase stopping doing. 669 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,300 It's so fun. I love it, I love that answer to 670 00:30:20,300 --> 00:30:21,600 this question. He wasn't what I was like 671 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,800 looking for, but it's totally something that now that I'm 672 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:28,200 hearing what you're saying is one of those again going back to 673 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,500 the laws of nature, right? It. 674 00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:31,500 You plant a seed, it's a pumpkin seed. 675 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:34,200 It's going to take six months that pumpkin seed to germinate 676 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,900 then also you have to replant it, you got to give it fully 677 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,700 certain nutrients. Nitrogen oxygen carbon, you got 678 00:30:39,700 --> 00:30:41,700 to put all this stuff in it and then then you get like a bigger 679 00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:43,200 pumpkin and then it grows in six months. 680 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,700 And then now you have fruit and also the stuff there's laws, 681 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:47,000 right? Would you have a baby? 682 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,900 It takes nine months, you don't expect it to be born any earlier 683 00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:51,800 than that, because it needs a nine-month. 684 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,800 That's what it's been deemed. And so, one of the things that I 685 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,600 always hear in business, is that you've got to give, you can't 686 00:30:58,700 --> 00:31:00,700 hold it. You can't keep it, you can't do, 687 00:31:00,700 --> 00:31:04,400 like, it's all mine, precious like Gollum underneath, you 688 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,700 know, troll bridge, like keeping all in hoarding. 689 00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:10,500 All your stuff like you've got to give because that is such a 690 00:31:10,500 --> 00:31:12,600 gun. One of those things, and laws 691 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,100 that govern the universe, that you've got to respect this law, 692 00:31:15,100 --> 00:31:17,800 you've just got to give and what you find when you do that. 693 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,500 Is it always comes back. And again, when I was watching 694 00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:23,700 that video of you guys give me, I was just like this girl is so 695 00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:26,900 incredible. She has such an other centered 696 00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:31,500 mindset that going to bring joy. Boy, when you focus in on others 697 00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:35,200 and brings so much more joy to your life and I can see it just 698 00:31:35,300 --> 00:31:38,300 emanating from you of like I will never get rid of being 699 00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:40,900 other-centered. That's what I'm going to keep 700 00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:43,200 doing no matter what. I don't care. 701 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,000 It's not social media. It's not I was thinking like it 702 00:31:46,008 --> 00:31:48,200 was going to be like, we're going to consistently Market to 703 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,100 this base know, like you're just like, no, I'm going to focus in 704 00:31:51,100 --> 00:31:52,800 on UPS. Always like that's the thing I'm 705 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,300 never going to stop doing because I think that's the 706 00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:58,500 secret of business. It's just, it's about others. 707 00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:00,500 It's never about. Yourself in the most successful, 708 00:32:00,500 --> 00:32:04,900 businesses are the ones that fixate on the customer. 709 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,000 This is what we need to be aiming everything towards and as 710 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:12,000 long as we are giving and we are giving expecting nothing in 711 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,600 return, then we are fulfilling that law of know, it will come 712 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,500 back. You just have to trust it. 713 00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:19,600 You just have to trust that. It's going to take 9 months, you 714 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,200 just gotta wait the basic of it, you know? 715 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,900 So the baby I just is that every time we give something crazy 716 00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:28,400 happens, I'm not even kidding. And it comes back around like 717 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,600 tenfold, every Time when we did the nurse care package campaign, 718 00:32:31,700 --> 00:32:34,600 Good Morning, America. Slid into my email and was like, 719 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,700 hey, do you want to come on? Good Morning America. 720 00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:40,300 I'm like, why GM's? I'm like, but heck and we got a 721 00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:43,400 good one, America, which then right gives us this Authority. 722 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,400 It gives us credibility. It's something I can use, 723 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,800 whatever that is, just so freaking awesome. 724 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:50,700 And then gives us the exposure XYZ. 725 00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:53,800 And then we did another care package campaign like a year 726 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,400 after that. And I created this little design 727 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,500 on canva as the face of it, that Heroes in and crossed out and 728 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:03,500 said humans underneath them, that was kind of what I put on 729 00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:08,000 our marketing materials, I love how to put it on a shirt. 730 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,300 So I was like oh I didn't think people would really want that on 731 00:33:10,300 --> 00:33:12,400 clothing but it's by far our best seller. 732 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,500 It went viral. We made so much money off of 733 00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:17,500 that one design and it's like oh but where did that come from? 734 00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:20,400 It came from a care package campaign trying to give back and 735 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,900 so you hit the nail on the head and it always comes back. 736 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:25,500 Oh my God, it makes me almost want like what? 737 00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:27,900 I cry like I can do it. I was like, just tear up. 738 00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:35,400 I'm like That's the challenge that I want nurses to hear this 739 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,800 week on the podcast. I want you guys to give 740 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,400 something away. That's my challenge to you. 741 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,600 Right now on the podcast, we are hitting it to you. 742 00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,400 Mrs. Schumann, and mrs. Potenza are flat-out. 743 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,700 Telling you go, give something away because it's going to shock 744 00:33:48,700 --> 00:33:51,300 you how it comes back. And you're going to be like, oh 745 00:33:51,308 --> 00:33:53,200 my gosh, this is some Supernatural. 746 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,800 Again, this is a Halloween was yesterday. 747 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:56,700 It seems like Halloween spooky thing. 748 00:33:56,700 --> 00:33:59,200 I'm like yes it is. Just trust us, just go. 749 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,200 Give it and see what happens. And again, I'm not saying that 750 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,200 people should be paid or compensated for their time or 751 00:34:05,208 --> 00:34:07,100 compensated for their energy or their work. 752 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,900 Those are two separate things because I feel like you respect 753 00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:12,000 the law who and you can respect the law of other, I don't 754 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:13,800 believe that they have to live outside of themselves. 755 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,000 Well then, just give everything away. 756 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,800 It's like, I don't know about that world can't operate that 757 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,100 way but again, when you respect the laws and you say I know I've 758 00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:24,900 got to give something here because I know that's just what 759 00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:27,100 were called to do. We've got to be other centered 760 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,500 and always comes back. If you could go back Back to the 761 00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:33,699 young Eva and just go. All right, I want you to know 762 00:34:33,699 --> 00:34:36,500 one thing as a brand new nurse. If you could go back to her and 763 00:34:36,500 --> 00:34:38,000 tell her something, this is the last question. 764 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:41,100 The podcast. What would you tell her that you 765 00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,199 want her to know that? You're just like hold on to 766 00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:44,800 this. Like this is your buoy. 767 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,000 This is your life jacket. Don't you dare take this off. 768 00:34:48,100 --> 00:34:51,400 You ride this wave all the way down, you write it. 769 00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:53,400 What is one thing you would tell her as a piece of, I think I 770 00:34:53,408 --> 00:34:56,699 would tell my younger self, which I needed to hear. 771 00:34:56,699 --> 00:35:00,400 Let me tell you, but I would have told her that Nursing is 772 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,600 working for you. You're not working for nursing 773 00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:06,200 because I do so much. I went into my nursing career 774 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:08,500 being like, I need a full-time job. 775 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,500 I work night shift, I'll do whatever they need me to do. 776 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,300 I'm going to go back to school. I'm going to be a nurse 777 00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:15,400 practitioner because that's what I'm so quote-unquote supposed to 778 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,100 do and then I'm going to do this. 779 00:35:17,100 --> 00:35:20,300 I had my whole plan laid out and as you know, from previously in 780 00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:24,000 the episode, my perfectionism in my planning is like a core part 781 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,700 of my personality and so when that derailed, once I realize, 782 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,300 this is just not what I thought it was going to be. 783 00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:32,500 Be, that was a lot for me and it's funny to think now fast 784 00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:34,700 forward five years. I am obsessed with being per 785 00:35:34,700 --> 00:35:36,300 diem. I literally work in the flu 786 00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:39,500 clinics covid clinics. I work for OMS on the side, like 787 00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:42,100 I do, all of this stuff. I work day shift in night shift. 788 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,100 I just make my career work for me so hard and I am just 789 00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:48,200 constantly thinking about how can this work for me, how can 790 00:35:48,207 --> 00:35:50,700 they benefit me? That's how I kind of made space 791 00:35:50,700 --> 00:35:52,400 for my business. Like, we talked about and I was 792 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,000 able to step into that. Now, I have like a gajillion, 793 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,800 revenue streams, like, doing all these different things and I 794 00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:58,900 just thought nursing with the end. 795 00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:02,500 All, be all. Beginning, and now I'm so clear 796 00:36:02,500 --> 00:36:04,400 on the fact that it's not the end-all be-all. 797 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,900 It's my purpose is the end, all be all. 798 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,600 What makes me fulfilled as what, what should be my goal in the 799 00:36:09,607 --> 00:36:11,900 future? Not this mapper like this 800 00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:13,800 roadmap that's laid out for me if that makes sense. 801 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,700 Oh, beautiful. That is so freaking beautiful. 802 00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:20,800 It is like I want that for every I know there's like I just like 803 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,700 pour that on everyone because the way that it's just 804 00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:26,800 portrayed, you just downed free, like no one's clipped your 805 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,500 wings. And that's what happens. 806 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:31,200 Is that your wings? Get clipped as a nurse and you 807 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,900 just kind of settle in and you just get in this little cage and 808 00:36:33,908 --> 00:36:35,800 you're just this little sad bird in a cage. 809 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:40,200 And like, watching you is like, know this bird flies around, 810 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,900 she's free. She's flapping and she doesn't 811 00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:46,200 have any any cares about. Oh I just I this is this is the 812 00:36:46,207 --> 00:36:47,700 life. I'm going to live as I'm never 813 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:49,600 going to be. I'm never gonna be able to do 814 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,600 what I've always wanted to do and you're doing it now. 815 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,400 You're not waiting until you get a pension and you retire and all 816 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,400 these different things. Yeah, we get now, which is 817 00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:00,100 beautiful. It's just totally my Are so for 818 00:37:00,100 --> 00:37:02,700 the last part of the podcast will just end it right there. 819 00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:05,200 So it was perfect point. I do rapid fire. 820 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,300 So what I do, I just hit people with, it's just a really quick, 821 00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:10,000 like boom, boom, boom, it's just do it. 822 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,900 If you could have somebody play you like on a like an actress 823 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,100 like you and you know what, everyone does look like her. 824 00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:20,100 You do look like your this that I get that all the time so 825 00:37:20,100 --> 00:37:21,800 that's you totally look like her. 826 00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:23,600 She's got like really cool Personality. 827 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:24,900 Yeah, she seems like super chill. 828 00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:27,200 Like she'd be fun to like go get a cup of coffee with Mike. 829 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,300 Hey, yeah. For sure. 830 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,100 And if you Had to give someone a book to read. 831 00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:34,400 What book would it be? Harry Potter is every lesson you 832 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,400 ever need in life? It's so good. 833 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,100 I'll give him the first one and then they'll read the other six 834 00:37:39,100 --> 00:37:40,800 because they wouldn't, they have to once. 835 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,600 I mean the first time yeah, that is so funny. 836 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,200 Good so much fun chatting with you. 837 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,700 Thank you so much for my listeners that are like, okay, I 838 00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:05,400 want to go get her stuff. This is so much fun. 839 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,900 Where can they find you? Just kind of get together. 840 00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:11,400 Same service people dot co-ceo. That is the same thing as our 841 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,000 social medias are. Instagram is purpose. 842 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:14,500 People Co. And that's where you can find 843 00:38:14,500 --> 00:38:17,400 the brand stuff. My personal page, I'm actually 844 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,600 loving kicked. These days. 845 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,000 So my personal Tick Tock is Eva dot Schumann. 846 00:38:21,300 --> 00:38:24,000 And my Instagram is Eva Schumann underscore. 847 00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:26,400 Thanks guys, guys. Junior out. 848 00:38:26,500 --> 00:38:28,700 She's amazing. Thanks for coaching into the 849 00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:30,000 pockets, guys. They don't forget to enjoy the 850 00:38:30,008 --> 00:38:31,800 journey of your careers. Take care. 851 00:38:38,500 --> 00:38:41,800 So that's a wrap, be sure to subscribe to the show so you 852 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,400 don't miss an episode and leave me a review. 853 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,200 If you like the show, I would love to get 5 stars. 854 00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:50,800 The doctors podcast is on the world wide web, YouTube 855 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,000 Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, patreon, and Tick-Tock subscribe 856 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,200 to my newsletter for updates on new podcast episodes and other 857 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,000 information to help you on your own nursing Journey. 858 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,700 You can always message me at the doctor nurse podcast at 859 00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:07,400 gmail.com with any career professions that you're 860 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,600 interested in. In hearing about and just a 861 00:39:09,607 --> 00:39:11,700 friendly. 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