Welcome to the doctor nurse podcast.
I'm your host, dr. Sandra contenta.
I'm a doctor, Lee prepared nurse practitioner.
And I am so glad you decided to join me today.
The doctor nurse podcast is a podcast for nurses and nurse
practitioners that are wanting to understand what exactly their
degrees can do for them. After the birth of my son, I had
this baking desire to have more flexibility in my career
choices. Despite feeling like all the
alphabet soup, after my name didn't really afford me.
Me very many options, I launched the podcast to find the answers
that I so desperately needed. But I also knew I couldn't be
the only nurse who felt this way.
This is sound like you, if so, come and hang out with me as I
figure out what our nursing degrees can give us access to,
as far as career flexibility control, over our schedules and
Entrepreneurship my talking with NPS and our friends who are
doing exactly that. Sit back and enjoy the
conversation. A doctor's Nation, welcome to
the podcast episode today. Today we are chatting with dr.
Jessica Chung, she is a doctor, Lee prepared nurse practitioner
that focused, her research on patient education in medication,
adherence and developed, an adherence therapy tool that can
be used in various clinical settings to assess the risk of
medication. Non-adherence and methods to
improve patients, taking their medications and that
collaboration between a patient and a provider.
She also had a dream of opening her own private practice which
she Did in 2019 and she provides a variety of healthcare services
to patients of all ages and due to her vast knowledge of
starting a business, you know, kind of managing a practice.
She decided to launch. Also in International Business
Association for nurses. Were she helps nursing
professionals and other Healthcare Providers become
entrepreneurs. So I'm so happy to have you on
the podcast today. I am so about nurse
practitioners, starting their own businesses starting side.
Hustle starting small, bridging their careers, so that they
don't. Not as lying on the hospital for
a job to give them a freedom. We are aligned.
Thank you so much for having me. Yeah, so exciting.
And thanks again for coming on and chatting, with my guests,
and my audience, and just letting them know, like what
their options are. So, tell me again, how you see
yourself? How do you view your career and
kind of what your roles are these days?
Yeah, so I guess I'll start with my rolling.
What I do, I was asleep being a nurse, a family nurse
practitioner dr. Lee prepared.
That was something that I did not plan on, you know, go back
to school for a doctorate that was just something someone close
to me, a mentor had suggested and advised that I do and I was
against it for for a while and then I just decided you know
what I'm going to do this because why not, you know why
not go you know a way above what?
I think I can do. And so nonetheless here I am and
you know being a healthcare provider is something I've been
doing a bit in health care in nursing All my career it's the
only career path. I know as far as being a
profession and I love helping people.
So I love, you know, being able to now do that in my own
practice, kind of being able to determine how that's done, how I
feel, is the best way to care for people in the primary care
setting being that, you know, I've worked in other places
worked in hospitals, worked in other clinics places.
And I saw the deficits. If the health Your system,
especially outpatient, primary care.
And so, I love that I'm able now to do that and focus on caring
for my own patients as well as you know.
Now, I'm also to help able to help other people other
Healthcare professionals. Start their own practice as
well, start their own businesses.
So, it's just been an amazing journey.
I would say like these past four or five years, you know, just
embarking on things that I did not know.
I was even capable of going beyond what, you know, society
says That we as nursing and advanced practice nursing
professionals and do and should do.
So that's that's just, you know what I'm doing and what I will
continue to do. So, how was your primary care?
Practice different from those around, you know, another
primary care provider, like, how are you different?
Yes. So my primary care practice, is
known as what is a new kind of model of care and Primary Care
Services, which is direct primary care.
So, basically, what that means is that we offer All our
services and our office based on a monthly membership.
So, kind of like a subscription service for health care
services. So that's what mainly allows us
to stand out from a lot of other primary care offices.
In my local area, is that a lot of them are heavily based on
accepting Insurance. Whereas we do not have to, and
we can provide services to those individuals who don't have
access to health insurance or they don't, you know, they they
don't want the cost of Health Care.
Insurance. So, by no means, is it a
replacement for health insurance?
You know, health insurance has its benefits.
But when I started to think about, you know, my role when I
was, you know, back as a registered nurse when I was
working P RN or working for ACS have access to health insurance,
you know, in those roles. But you know, I still wanted
that security of being able to, you know, go to the doctor, go
to a provider and get checked out and not have it to think
about going to the, ER, for simple things.
And I realized I was like, you know, no people who are contract
workers or people who are entrepreneurs business owners,
they really don't know, or I should say, they really don't
have a way for them to obtain quality services.
Without thinking about, oh, well, I don't have health
insurance, so there's no way I can, you know, get an annual
physical. There's no way I can get seen
without paying hundreds and hundreds of dollars, which is
actually not the case. So, I thought about myself, when
I started to do model, my practice based off this model
doing Direct. Time your case.
So that really allows us to stand out from others that are
in the local area. Yeah.
That's really cool. And again, I think the fact that
you can provide care in a way that you want to provide care,
is also really important again because one of the things that
you find whenever you work in primary care or you just work in
a hospital setting and you're having to work for someone
else's, you've got to adhere to what they say, right?
So by kind of creating something that you're like, no I feel like
I'm servicing a population of people that Are like me that are
entrepreneurs or maybe again growing business or don't have
the excuse. No, the money.
At this time I can actually support them and give them good
quality care. I think that's I think that's
really great. Yeah.
What made you decide to start your own business in 2019?
Like again what made you go? Like I think it's time for me to
brush all my own. It was something that I knew I
was going to do probably around 2016 2017 I knew after I
graduated with my masters in 2015 and I was In an internal
medical practice. So I was there for about a year
and as I made a decision to go back to school for my doctorate.
Once I started that program in 2017, I pretty much knew at that
point, that that was what I wanted to do.
And I knew that there were things that I wanted to
accomplish that, I wasn't going to be able to do that.
Just working for someone or working for some healthcare
Healthcare System. And I know means, you know, I
tell people this meant it is very honorable, to have, you
know, a good paying position you're working professionally as
an employee. I just knew for me, there was
more, there was no money to do, there was more money to see and
it was outside of just, you know, my regular what became an
office job. It it literally, that's what it
became to me. A Monday through Friday 9 to 5
and I just said, you know there's got to be something more
and there's got to be a way that I can do this.
But do it differently from what I've been seeing and what I'm
accustomed to. Yeah.
So it's turning the work into a
passion right away. I wanted some love.
Yeah, I wanted to love what I was doing.
I didn't want to dread, you know, coming in and just dealing
with the other things that come with, you know, being working on
a job. Your and I, I felt like no
matter where I worked, I never fit into the mold, either that
company, or that office. I just I felt like I was always
trying to strive to do more and so with that I said you know
what, I knew that that entrepreneurship was probably
the route was going to go in and starting my own practice.
Yeah. So one of the things, the elite
nurse practitioner, Justin Alan, he's been on the podcast before,
he's so fabulous. But there's also a financial
stealing that you hit when you work in Primary Care practices
that the doctors have control over what you can make and what
you can bring home, and you have to kind of negotiate for your
RV. Use all these different things.
That again when you own your own protest, like you're just like
gushing like I'm doing, you know, so it's also the financial
aspect as well. Yeah, my God, I love to focus on
the passion part and making sure you're enjoying what you're
doing. But let's be real.
We all want to get paid, so it's like night.
There's also that aspect that there's a lot, a lot more
responsibility, but there's also a lot more to gain when you're
able to get those systems in place to operate your business.
You're able to really create what it is that you want as far.
Far as making money and way the patient load things like that
and you get to decide. I don't want to see this patient
because they're, you know, inappropriate or whatever.
And you can just make it from your clinic.
Like, there's many great things were working out.
Yeah. You have a choice like, you need
to go in there. You're like, abusive, like
they're not cops. Yeah, you know.
So you get so much more autonomy.
And that autonomy, I know it does come with a little bit of a
cost, but for some people, it's totally worth it.
So, how did you know when you were ready to become?
Entrepreneur, or was it something that you was a slow
build? Like you started with a slow
little side, hustle of like seeing patients on the side
while working at your, you know, your job and then you slowly
transitioned over, or did you just jump all in pretty much?
I took the time to, you know, work out the details and do the
research of how I was going to actually do this.
So I did that while obtaining, my doctorate.
So I kind of was like in school and then also doing my research
on my own on the side. And once I got all the details
and what I felt, I I was ready, literally one day.
I was it wasn't like, you know, I was said, oh I planned it out
and I said on this day I'm going to launch.
Literally one day. I said, no, I'm doing this, I'm
doing this. And I'm starting it to day and I
remember, you know, doing the legal things that I need to get
in place, making the right phone call.
And I want to stay within two weeks, I was seeing my first
patient. You know, I had to like on, I
don't even have a website yet. I had like just posted on social
media and enjoy. Seemed like my first patient.
So I literally just I went from, you know, kind of like a steady
process and doing the research and then literally, I just one
day, I just said, it's time to go.
It's time for me to do this, and it literally has continued to
build since. Then.
I started out very small and very had a lot of free time just
because, you know, I didn't have a lot of Nations.
If I owned a lot of people had a lot of time to, you know, figure
out the details work out, the Kinks States, you know. -
definitely is a process in itself, but Healthcare Medical
Practice business. That's a whole different ball
game. So there was a lot of things
that I learned, as I started that, I feel like if I didn't
start, I would not have learned those things.
There's just some things that you are going to come across in
the process that unless you actually start the process, you
won't even notice you won't see these things.
So I slowly built, you know, I started doing house calls, I was
going to see patients after after work on the weekend.
Yes. And then I transitioned to a
small, you know, one room office.
And I had it set up like an exam room.
It was literally my my work office and exam room all in one.
Yeah. And then next thing, you know, I
was like, moving on to, you know, another office and then a
bigger office, and I literally just signed a contract for a new
building. So, last week, so, it just, I
just continued to build. And there wasn't, I can't give
anyone like, you know, a road map.
Okay, this is what I I did hear this is what I did there.
It just came as I went now. I can you know give someone more
of a guideline and I can help people which is what I do now
and because I've gone through that process, that took me maybe
two to three years to figure out where now I'm helping people and
they've got it done in like 3 months and they're launching and
they're, you know, having your grand opening.
So I'm glad I went on the journey because I just filled
in, you know, because I my journey was the way.
Was that has just allowed me to be a source of information and
then putting influence to others out there that want to do the
same thing. Yeah, that's really really good.
And I'm going to stop on there for just a couple minutes
because I think one of the things that you said that was
important was that you shrunk your time frame from when it
took you to launch, it's a really be proficient and you
know, have your business running well and now you're able to
shrink that time. And so one of the other guest on
my podcast said, you know, if you don't have the money, you're
going to struggle a little bit more if you can't pay for the
resources, right? But you just got to put in the
work. So the work is what you end up
leveraging. But if you can pay someone to
get you there faster than that, is another way of getting your
business off the ground. That's completely absolutely
appropriate. And if you're able to save up
that money. So what I always tell people is
like if you have a day job, keep working that day job seeing the
money so that you can have someone teach you reputable but
he To how to build a business on the side and to start small, if
you said starting on the weekends again, you're grinding,
it sucks to grind it did good. You're like, I want to be home
watching Netflix and chilling but then you think of that
person that's like who you are today.
Now you're teaching people how to build their businesses and to
start off. And so it's like, yeah.
You got to put in that grind work.
I tell myself a different times and I've been like, grinding and
I'm like, I'm pregnant. I'm tired.
I don't want to grind. More, you know?
And so I'm just, like, Sandra like you're doing this for the
future that future, man, that future so that you can go and
say, like, I grab I remember grinding, like, just like you
spend your time in the trenches, as a nurse, and you have such a
theory when a nurses, I can you help me?
I'm like, of course, what do you mean to do?
Like, because I've been there, you know, you just have more
perspective. Yeah, yeah.
I think that's a really, really good.
Really. Good advice.
What's one aspect of business? That's been difficult to
overcome and what is one aspect of business?
It's been easy because of your background as a nurse, so one
factor of so one. So yeah.
So one thing that was hard and one thing that was easy.
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So I think one thing that is always it gets it gets easier
over time. It's always a challenge is
marketing. Marketing is always a challenge
because the age we live in is very, you know, social media
driven. So what used to work, you know,
five ten years ago is totally different.
Now, you know, it used to be the standard, you know, get business
cards and have business cards hand them out.
Now, it's like you have to be present on social media.
You have to be very Innovative in how you mark Market, your
services and Being able to really capture the attention of
people who need your services. So marketing, I feel like it's
something, I'm certainly learning.
Literally like every day on how to be better, do better in my
marketing as far as what has helped me or what is not so
difficult. I think bleed just the Hands-On
aspect of his being a hard worker and working hard to build
my business. Just because that comes
naturally from my educational, Vegetable background and just
getting in there and doing the research and reading and
challenging myself. So that part comes easy because
it's a part of who I am. You know, I've taken, you know,
the NCLEX I'm taking the board exam.
I've seen the most complex patients and so that part comes
easy to me because I understand what it is to, you know, work
hard and challenge myself. So, yeah, so definitely
marketing is that marketing is definitely the one thing that I
would say is always become Nothing that I'm playing
learning and you know, wanting to do better at.
Yeah. I will I will say this because
I've come out and made comments that I feel like the doctorate
in nursing is and I know this is going to be very controversial.
So, here we go. Let me just stir the pot.
But like, sometimes I feel like the doctor nursing which I have
obtained. So I'm saying this with doing
the work, so it's not from a place of like I think it's
garbage and I haven't done it. Now I've done it, so I
definitely feel like the Doctorate of nursing didn't
necessarily get. Give me any other career options
unless I was going to climb the corporate ladder, right?
So like that's how I felt about the degree and to a certain
extent I felt like for my time in my life that was not the best
use of my time. But when I will and I'll just
just say it's a lot of money and by the grace of God I got it for
free. So if I work for the most part
paid for so if I would have had to pay for that degree
completely out of pocket, I would have been really upset.
Yeah the outcome I'm going to be 100 but I will even add and I I
will say this that what the doctor did give me is the
ability to push myself to the Limit and know that I still had
more. And so I still had more.
I could give that's one of the things that I look back and I'm
like I can't regret it because yes the work and necessarily the
trajectory of my career. I don't see going up the
hospital chain of command. I just don't like I don't that
doesn't appeal to me. Yeah.
But but I Do you think that it taught me?
And I don't know if you feel this way, you might agree or
disagree, but I felt like it did teach me how to push myself to
the edge and to the limit of how much can I learn?
How much can I be an expert in area?
How much can I really work? And that work ethic is something
now that I can't turn off. Like my husband lost all the
time. He's like, you hustle so hard.
I'm like, I had to, I work part-time as a nurse
practitioner. Yes, we're finished.
My doctorate had to do the project.
Like get the classes done. I had a Fallout like there were
so much that I had to just do that almost feel like doctors
like when they finally get out into practice and like more,
they have a break to like to do it myself like, right?
Because it's always so busy. You know that you're describing,
I know was definitely flame during my doctoral degree and
definitely something that I'm not saying you can't get another
way. I just know that it helps me
personally develop A person personally develop as a person,
but you know what I mean? Like, yeah, it's not a big as a
person like character that work ethic characters with what
really gave me, which is, I think very valuable, especially
yeah. Saying, Hey listen, I'm an
entrepreneur. I've got to be working.
I don't have those options of, you know, there's nobody else to
do it. There's nobody else is lying,
doctoral program. Is he?
So you got a message this person.
You gotta call this part. Like it's all that stuff.
I think it's good character building.
So passionately, what do you think?
For me, it was once I made the decision to obtain my doctorate.
For me, it was just a matter of wine, why not?
Just go all the way. If there's something for me to
obtain and it's at its high tides level.
So if we think about like, well, if your company says, the
highest salary you can make is 150,000, you make 100,000,
you're going to work your butt off to get 150,000, so if you're
free right? So there's a educational
program, it for my Profession. That is at its highest level.
I want that highest level. I don't want to shortchange
myself. Yeah, and so, one thing I've
learned over the years is that the doctorate program, the dnp
specifically is not for everyone.
By no means there are some individuals that it's not for
them and that's okay. There are some individuals that
they know that there's more they wanted and yet they, I see this.
A lot of seed a lot on social media where there's always
people like saying, oh, the doctor degree dnp, Program is
unnecessary you need. It's a waste of time and space
money, but that might be the case for you.
But for others may not be the case because they may want to
achieve more. And I guess let me be honest.
The that having the title gives you a lot a lot.
At least it gave me a lot of Leverage.
It gave me a lot of Leverage professionally and financially
and for opportunities and it just it just opened a lot of
doors for me where people didn't see me as just Jessica Chung
Nurse practitioner but now it was like, oh, you're dr.
Jessica Chung doctor of nursing practice and family nurse
practitioner. We would love to for you to join
us to do this or that and we want you to speak here and we
would love to collaborate with you on this and that.
So I mean you know, people will say whatever they want but for
me it was it opened doors. It allowed me to gain a lot of
Leverage. A lot of opportunities was if I
was still working for a company or incorporate health care, then
maybe a It would definitely have allowed me to climb the
corporate ladder, sure, but it was just a personal decision, I
made to just obtain the highest standard of, what is, what was
available to the uh, one of the things I wanted to ask you.
And again, this again might be stirring the pot a little bit
but did you hear about the nurse practitioner?
Who had been calling herself? Dr. Absolutely yeah.
And you know she's gotten sued by The Physicians.
What did you think about that? I mean what we love yours now I
read a couple articles because you know, I'm like, whoa.
I want to hear the whole story, and, of course, sure.
Sometimes articles can be written bias.
Yes. Hi, you know, it, when I read
the article, it's easy, does it possibly maybe she was targeted
by an individual or individuals? It didn't seem like, you know,
all of a sudden, you know, there was this, you know, Grand
investigation on all nurse practitioners and let's find the
ones that are was targeting. Like, maybe, you know, I don't
know, maybe maybe it was a patient complained.
They was a patient. That wasn't Copy with her plan
of care. Maybe they wanted to, you know,
just find a way to get back at that.
I feel that, you know, let me be clear is that this is also
States. So if the law says that you
can't use that title, No Matter What, as far as the prefix, the
then you have to follow the wall.
But if the last days, right? I mean it is what it is.
Now, if your state says well, Use it, but you have to be
designate, you know, your your degree in which you are using
that title, then you should do that as well.
And so, what for me, I've always liked plastered on social media.
I'm a doctor of nursing practice is plastered over my website,
so, because I'm not here to fool anybody.
I'm making it very clear. I Cohen go into my see my
patients, I'm dr. Jessica Jung, dr.
Chung nurse practitioner as in the same of my tongue like I do.
You know, I make a very clear and so I think that you just
have to know your state laws. I probably am very surprised at
how many nurse practitioners and nurses don't know their state
laws regarding their profession surprises form.
And it's scary because a lot of people come to me saying, hey,
you know, I want to do this and not, and I'll say, okay, what is
your state law? Say, what is, what is the
statues, whether the, what are the, you know, the regulations?
And that way, I don't know. Yeah.
And you know, that's scary because forget about starting a
business, you're a professional and you should understand your
state laws in which you're practicing.
And so you have to understand and know your state laws to seek
out an attorney, I feel like people just shy away from
because just simply I don't want to pay for one and I think that
that is one of the best investments I've made as a
professional and a business owner so that they can help you
and understanding okay what it is that you're doing and what it
is you're trying to do. So you know I feel like there's
a there's a lot probably to that story that we don't know.
Yeah. But that goes to say that those
state laws were for that individual in her State then
they have to be followed the state laws.
Trump you'll you know professors agree.
Yeah. It's really nice.
You could have you go to the best college, you get that
degree. You fade.
They confer you with that title, but if your state law says no,
you can't use it the prefix. At least then you, you have to
follow the state laws. That's so good.
Yeah, Jessica, what is one thing that you would tell your younger
self? If you can go back to the start
of your career, as a nurse that you would say I would want her
to know this. Before she gets going.
What's one thing you tell her probably tell I would tell her
don't settle. Oh don't settle at all.
Yeah that that is something I told myself now and every of my
life I do not settle and I would tell younger Jessica, don't
settle in and in my own way, I don't feel like I've ever
settled by. I don't feel like that I was as
confident as I should have been even being younger and so you
know don't settle it is that you want to dream what you believe
in what you want to do. Just don't settle.
Yeah that's so good. I love that and that was the
last question of the podcast so I want to end on that note.
Do not settle know, your worst know your value.
And again, spend some time figuring out what you want to do
so much more important to understand the mission of your
career and what you want to build.
Yeah, more so than just getting a job and I was so focused in on
just get a job, get a job as a nurse, they got one, good job as
a nurse practitioner. Okay, got one.
Okay. Good job.
You're losing your job. Get one, get one.
Got one. So now there's this like, like,
instant messaging and checking in that I'm doing.
With myself. I'm like just what I want for my
career like is yeah for my you know that conversation I was not
having with myself and now I have it on the rag and I'm
constantly checking in with this is aligned with the life and I
don't, I don't, I didn't do that.
I was so thankful just to be taking like, you know, like at
the school dance. I'm so glad I have a damn
partner but it's enough sucks. You can't tell Yang like, you
know, the one that's over there. Like That, you know, like it's
on the salsa dancer. So that's kind of how I feel.
Yeah. Like you look and you're just
like, oh, he looks like he's a good dancer.
Yeah. Now, having more of that
mentality of like, what is it that I want and chasing that
getting in doing the things to get me there.
I think is so smart and just, again, just not settling on.
This is what I have to take. And, you know, that's job sucks.
And I hate my life and I don't like doing.
Yeah, I'm trying to move kind of move away.
Yeah. So for the last part, Of the
podcast, is the rapid fire questions and these are just fun
Barbara. See your pants.
Are you ready to go? Okay.
All right, I'm ready. It's so how do you answer your
phone? Hello.
You say he's just a hello. It depends.
If it's my purse. If it's personal.
Phone ringing. It's my mom.
I'm like, yes, Mom. Oh, respect, 28 times a day.
So, I'm like, what's going on now?
Yeah. It's you know it's just baby out
if especially if it's the office, I'll just have to say
hello. Thank you for calling because I
don't want to know. I don't want the patients to
know I'm answering. So I'll just say hello.
How can I help you? You just gave your chip away.
Now, you're grateful for the whole world.
My salvation. Come on.
Yes, yes, yes, yes. I, you know, I have a
relationship with the Lord that I did not grow up having and my
relationship with God has just opened, it's just amazing.
What? When I pray and I see God and
knowing it's because I took a step to join in him with a
relationship. It's just like, you know, if you
want to join with, you know, a woman joins with And and so I
joined with God, I took that step almost 10 years ago.
Move, once I moved down to Florida, I joined it.
I was baptized in Jesus name. God filled me with the Holy
Ghost and I'm telling you, there's not a day.
I look back on my life before that I am grateful.
God has brought me and where he's taking me.
I love that, I love that because there's so many aspects of I
Believe Miss and stepping out in faith and yeah, working in that,
in that space. Not a lot of the world will say,
like, oh, it's the universe, like, whatever, but whatever it
is that you call your source, for me, I got, it's the same,
it's God. There is a connection with the
Lord, as you build something almost like Noah's Ark.
Almost like this other thing. Were you building this big?
This huge thing that you're just like God direct my steps as I
may guess tensions and show me, you know, put somebody ahead of
me to help me out and the different things that again.
I think we he wants to lead us. In certain things, and if he's
called you to own your own business, he's going to equip
you and settlement lie. I have got is a very, very good
thing and a wonderful thing to be grateful for, and if you had
to give someone a book to read, which would it be?
And again, this can be on anything.
But a book to read that you're like this is this is the go-to
book, you know, here sound good to give to obviously the Bible.
Yes. Okay.
One of the greatest business books.
Yeah. Everything you need is in that
book. Look, let me just be clear.
True. That's true, there trust me.
That won't happen if you need to search out the scriptures, think
it's in there for you. The second book I would say is
action has no season. I forgot the author's name, but
he's an attorney. But in the book, he talks about
the fact that taking action making the tour taking that next
step in your life and your profession and your business,
that there is no right or wrong time, action has no season.
It, is that you're going to take action.
You are, you're not and you're going to miss out.
So I would recommend that you action has no season yet.
That is so good but it sounds like again, going back to not
procrastinating. Just do it now.
And I talked about that all the time.
I have a little sign in my office that says yesterday
crossed out tomorrow crossed out.
Do it. Yeah.
Do it now and I love that because there's nothing that's
all you have guarantees the right now.
And so yeah I love that. I love that title.
That book him and wrote down in. And check it out.
And I agree with you on the Bible because I think the Bible
is so chock-full of like just simple money hacks and money
tip. Oh yeah, you gonna do business
with and who not to get into business with and a gritty.
And if you look at all the things, then you see like, oh my
goodness, like God gets business.
Yes, it's very cool. Well, thank you for your time
today. Where can I find you if they're
wanting to reach out to you just have you help them start?
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Area. Nice, I love Tampa.
That's like my husband's and I think we've talked about if we
were to ever move somewhere in Florida, I like we want to go to
the Tampa. Oh yeah.
Have a wonderful rest of your day.
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