1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,400 Hi guys and welcome to episode number two of the doctors 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:10,200 podcast unscripted as promised. This space is where I intersect 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,200 nursing with life. I'm creating this space to 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:17,200 introduce you guys to Concepts and ideas to help you grow your 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,600 career and set yourself apart As you move throughout your nursing 6 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:25,200 career. Today, we have Chris Chopra who 7 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:30,500 is the co-founder and CEO of NP Hub which is the largest P 8 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:34,300 preceptor placement agency in the United States. 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,400 I want to show you how you can make some extra coin and 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,200 addition to your salary. Let's dive in the show. 11 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:44,000 Hi, welcome. Chris to the doctor nurse 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:46,000 podcast. So happy to have you on today. 13 00:00:46,100 --> 00:00:49,600 I'm so excited to be here. Thank you for those that are 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:52,400 just tuning in. Can you kind of describe what it 15 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,700 is that you do? What your company is about? 16 00:00:54,700 --> 00:00:58,200 Yeah, I am a co-founder and I'm the CEO of NP Hub. 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:03,800 We are the largest Largest nurse practitioner preceptor placement 18 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:06,600 agency in the country. We help students find clinical 19 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,400 sites around the country because for whatever reason it is 20 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,500 graduate nurses. Get the shaft and students 21 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:16,700 universities do not help them find clinical rotations. 22 00:01:16,700 --> 00:01:21,100 And as a result what you have is thousands of nurses every month 23 00:01:21,100 --> 00:01:25,100 really that are delaying graduation that are unable to 24 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:28,600 find preceptors that are begging and pleading, literally cold 25 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:32,300 calling to try to Find a clinical site and that's where 26 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:34,800 we come. So I'm the CEO of the company. 27 00:01:35,300 --> 00:01:38,000 We have been really fast growing. 28 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,100 We're about I think at last count may be around 45 29 00:01:41,100 --> 00:01:45,500 employees, we handle well over 2,000 2,500 placements a year 30 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:49,100 now between wow every month were helping at least 200 students. 31 00:01:49,300 --> 00:01:51,700 And the truth is we could probably help another to 300 32 00:01:51,700 --> 00:01:53,900 like this. If we had them preceptors. 33 00:01:54,100 --> 00:01:57,900 So that's really, you know, my main job here is just helping a, 34 00:01:57,908 --> 00:02:00,000 my company grow making sure that we're doing. 35 00:02:00,100 --> 00:02:03,500 The right thing, believe you can build a business and to care 36 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:06,400 about your community and care about the customers and clients 37 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,699 you, serve and for whatever reason and nurses get the shaft 38 00:02:09,699 --> 00:02:13,200 there, like our teachers, here are over watch me under p and, 39 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,400 you know, I think I kind of classify myself as like a nurse 40 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:18,400 advocate in the way this maybe have a yeah. 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,500 But that's like the yeah that's one of the reasons why I wanted 42 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:24,700 to have you on the podcast and to have you come and talk to 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:29,300 nurses because a big focus of the doctors podcast is creating 44 00:02:29,300 --> 00:02:33,200 a level of stuff. Because he for nurses to ask for 45 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,500 what they're worth and to go out and find side hustles your 46 00:02:36,500 --> 00:02:41,300 business and what you're the leader of is an opportunity for 47 00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:45,800 nurses to generate some side revenue from their skills and 48 00:02:45,808 --> 00:02:48,300 their expertise. One of the things I'd like to 49 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:50,500 kind of touch on before we dive more into. 50 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:53,600 What npf is. How much can nurses, make all 51 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,200 this stuff? Tell me, why is it that you 52 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,900 think nurses or universities aren't plug? 53 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:03,600 Being in their students with preceptors, like what is going 54 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,600 on there in your opinion? That's a really good question. 55 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,000 I think that for whatever reason that the in graduate nursing, 56 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,700 what you've add is, because the typical student is typically 57 00:03:13,700 --> 00:03:15,500 older, they're working full time. 58 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:17,500 They probably been an RN for a few years. 59 00:03:17,900 --> 00:03:20,100 They tend to be a bit older of a crap. 60 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,500 So you're not it's not a direct rope, right? 61 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,200 You're not going from or I mean you see it sometimes now we go 62 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,300 all rent and Pete but I think a lot of nurses have their opinion 63 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:30,800 and they don't like that, right? You And a half nursing 64 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:34,200 experience. So, as a result nurses tend to 65 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,000 want the flexibility, and I think universities have created 66 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:40,500 this more hybrid online model to help accommodate for it. 67 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:45,500 When you decentralize the location of your students, it's 68 00:03:45,500 --> 00:03:48,000 hard to build a clinical site infrastructure. 69 00:03:48,700 --> 00:03:51,300 That's like the fancy way of saying like, Okay, because you 70 00:03:51,308 --> 00:03:54,000 go online and do you recruit students from multiple different 71 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,300 states, you can build in these clusters of rotations and every 72 00:03:57,300 --> 00:04:00,600 state, but if you focus on Sykes, a Atlanta or New York or 73 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:01,800 whatever. It's easier. 74 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,500 Just like building a husband, even though that's chapter. 75 00:04:04,900 --> 00:04:06,900 But then that's what's happening in this space right now. 76 00:04:07,100 --> 00:04:11,300 I think you're right, look, a lot of universities as amazing 77 00:04:11,300 --> 00:04:15,400 as they are, they are understaffing their clinical 78 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:18,700 departments. So that way, there's very little 79 00:04:18,700 --> 00:04:21,600 emphasis cawing or energy given to the preceptor. 80 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,200 So, the preceptors are like, no helping me do anything and they 81 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:27,100 just they had to do all the heavy lifting. 82 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:29,900 Tell me a little bit about how you develop 10p. 83 00:04:30,100 --> 00:04:34,800 Hub and how you saw this Gap and how you filled it with your 84 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,000 business and kind of walk me through your entrepreneurial 85 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,200 Journey. My very first company. 86 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:42,100 I started failed actually, is that in real estate investing 87 00:04:42,100 --> 00:04:44,100 which just made no sense, because I was 23. 88 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:47,800 I did not invest in real estate, but might basically what had 89 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,800 happened is, I had quit a full-time job in New York City. 90 00:04:50,900 --> 00:04:53,000 Moved down to Atlanta to sort of restart. 91 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,000 Say it up six months of money, trying to start a company. 92 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:59,500 And I first company like I mentioned failed after So I two 93 00:04:59,500 --> 00:05:04,000 months of expenses raining, like I lesson like a crinum and I was 94 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:09,400 20. For at the time, Leslie gray 95 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,000 through a savings and I just needed to prove to myself. 96 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,900 I could be an entrepreneur in my culture. 97 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:17,600 Like, you know, I like I'm a first gen Indian in the air and 98 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,400 in the u.s. it are are like our culture. 99 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,000 If I you're smart, you become a doctor an engineer every 100 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,500 stereotype that does exist, guys. 101 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:26,100 So like that's like real and I didn't fit for right. 102 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:27,500 I was never like the book smart person. 103 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,000 So yeah, I wanted to prove myself, I could be an 104 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:31,500 entrepreneur and my first company. 105 00:05:31,500 --> 00:05:34,800 I started helping medical students including stations and 106 00:05:34,900 --> 00:05:37,600 And in that organization that business we partnered with 107 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,600 universities typically was International programs and we 108 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:43,700 were sort of like their outsourced placed MIT 109 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,100 department. And we had a student for two 110 00:05:47,100 --> 00:05:50,200 years there are core rotations for 48 weeks and then their 111 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,400 electives right? 26 weeks or whatever is a good 112 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:53,600 total of 70 or something like that. 113 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:58,400 And in the med school space, we were like one of 15 competitors. 114 00:05:58,400 --> 00:05:59,900 We did a good job. It was cool. 115 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:06,800 Yeah but We never I never realized that like I could never 116 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,600 imagine that U s-- and p-- programs but their students 117 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,700 through the ringer like this. Like I always thought it was 118 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:14,200 like okay these International programs are underfunded okay 119 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:20,200 look I get it but in the end piece base is u.s. in the u.s. 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:23,200 like you don't have that right? But how can we do this and again 121 00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:25,200 at the RN level it's set up pretty well. 122 00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:26,700 Right. It's like you have your 123 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:29,000 clinicals that you go through these you go through this over 124 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,100 and over again. You're really focus on passing 125 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:34,500 and cuts, like you just go An art, it, but int probably there. 126 00:06:34,500 --> 00:06:39,200 So, just got, I don't see poorly organized, the wrong word, but 127 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:41,300 they're just, it's organized different. 128 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:44,900 So in the end of that thing, that you were saying, yes, it's 129 00:06:44,900 --> 00:06:47,900 decentralized, so it's more fragmented that exactly think, 130 00:06:47,900 --> 00:06:50,000 maybe it's the word. It feels very fragmented. 131 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,200 Know your then you do a lot of nurse practitioners, students 132 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,500 will describe feeling like kind of a lone Island because you go 133 00:06:57,508 --> 00:07:01,600 to school online, you're working as an RN and you're just kind of 134 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,900 all by yourself. He just feels very alone. 135 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:07,200 Damn process. The hospitals were you working 136 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:08,300 at. They don't care about you. 137 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:10,800 You see, everything that's happened in the last two years, 138 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,000 but I think I could absolutely say that and I don't think 139 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,400 anyone would text and then your NP programs aren't able to give 140 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,800 you the personal attention. So literally you're graduating 141 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,400 and you add this massive imposter syndrome. 142 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:27,700 As I m going through, but to finish up on the story thing in 143 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:30,900 the MD space, we were one of 15 competitors and we did a good 144 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:32,200 job. I was proud of the work that we 145 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,300 in the end piece base if we don't do what we did and we 146 00:07:35,308 --> 00:07:39,100 didn't make that transition. These NP soon as I graduate. 147 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,100 So for me, it was just a matter of like, I can run a good 148 00:07:42,100 --> 00:07:45,800 business and Andy's face, or I could do something unique in the 149 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400 ANP space and like really get to help community. 150 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,400 That gets the underserved alacrity Source. 151 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,000 Yeah. And they get overlooked. 152 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:57,200 So that was a, I love your first story that you told me about 153 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,100 your first nurse practitioner that reached out to you and was 154 00:08:00,100 --> 00:08:04,200 asking for help and she was emotional when again and again 155 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,400 like you weren't even servicing NPCs, like they came to You had 156 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,800 like, could you help me? Yeah and that's what really got 157 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,600 you into that business. It actually is super, like 158 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:14,500 emotional story that you shared with me. 159 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:19,300 It was our first year of business in 2015 and outside of 160 00:08:19,300 --> 00:08:21,600 Starbucks in Atlanta, Georgia and get this call. 161 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,400 Because again, we work with Med students and we had with the 162 00:08:24,407 --> 00:08:26,800 website, so people would enroll saying, okay, could you help us 163 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,400 reach out to meet cetera? It was an MP student and she was 164 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,600 from Walden University. I didn't even understand what 165 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:35,799 her parents. We had no idea how to price but 166 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:38,200 she basically said like Like, I sat out a year. 167 00:08:38,900 --> 00:08:43,600 I cannot find a preceptor of in Atlanta, and I just need a 168 00:08:43,608 --> 00:08:45,700 pediatric freezer. I just happen to have recruited 169 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:47,100 a preceptor in Lawrenceville Georgia. 170 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,300 It would just like, kind of like a suburb of Atlanta. 171 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:51,700 So, yeah, he called his prefabricate. 172 00:08:51,700 --> 00:08:53,700 Would you take the student? This is the documents. 173 00:08:53,700 --> 00:08:55,200 They need a little bit more than normal. 174 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,800 Just can you sign it and return it back to me? 175 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,000 Then, to three hours. We had this back and she was 176 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,700 little crying. Like she was just like how does 177 00:09:01,700 --> 00:09:06,300 this Gene understand and piece I think are used to being alone 178 00:09:06,500 --> 00:09:10,500 and being Isolated him and fear is having like a service that 179 00:09:10,500 --> 00:09:13,300 could just kind of get it done for the just right there. 180 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:16,700 Yeah, there is a level of that isolation that then continues 181 00:09:16,700 --> 00:09:20,200 into practice, you end up becoming a provider that works 182 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:25,300 independently that thinks that it enhances a scarcity mindset 183 00:09:25,300 --> 00:09:29,000 because if you think preceptors are in abundance and I've got 184 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:32,900 options Galore, then you generate and you operate 185 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:36,000 differently as an MP. But if you're in this mindset 186 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:38,200 of, there's not enough. Receptors can get anyone to find 187 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,000 a preceptor for me and you think I'll send it now? 188 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,500 You're going to be like, oh, let me have pay transparency and let 189 00:09:42,500 --> 00:09:44,600 people know what I'm making and then, let me make sure that 190 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,000 there's enough money for me to get paid a salary that I feel 191 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:50,400 like is appropriate for the work that I'm doing and not just 192 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,200 taking, whatever Physicians offer us and just go thanks for 193 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,000 the job. It just keeps us in this 194 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,300 scarcity mindset. It's just is so limiting for. 195 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:00,300 You shouldn't have a preceptor shortage issue. 196 00:10:00,500 --> 00:10:04,000 This seems completely just awful to me that we, you don't have 197 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,200 enough receptors because we should be presenting Enough 198 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,500 options. So that every nurse practitioner 199 00:10:09,500 --> 00:10:12,800 student can find someone so that we can have this abundance 200 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,900 mindset up. Come, there's enough for all of 201 00:10:15,900 --> 00:10:17,700 us not enough. I agree with you. 202 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,000 Three hundred percent. Because so here's something 203 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,700 interesting that you said when you're an orange before you've 204 00:10:25,700 --> 00:10:29,100 gone and peaceful from a hot from like a ballad, G Hospital 205 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:30,500 perspective. And I know, like, when I say 206 00:10:30,500 --> 00:10:33,000 something like this, who are you calling for more than a balance, 207 00:10:33,300 --> 00:10:34,800 from like a hospital perspective? 208 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,600 You're all the cost side of service, right? 209 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,100 You are under the line. Anyone's look at financial 210 00:10:40,100 --> 00:10:41,800 statements are under the line. You're cops? 211 00:10:41,900 --> 00:10:43,700 Yes. But when you are a tenpin, your 212 00:10:43,700 --> 00:10:47,200 provide you are no longer than your income generating. 213 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,100 The business case, what? Generally happens if you 214 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:55,000 generate income is that, you repaid, your base, which is 215 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,700 should be a fair base and there is some sort of incentive bonus, 216 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,300 right? Let me ask you something. 217 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,200 When you're at practice Hydra and you see if in a day, you can 218 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,000 give incredible care to 25 patients. 219 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:11,600 Versus someone else, who can give incredible care to 20, 220 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,400 patients with a you are twenty five twenty percent better 25%, 221 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:17,400 Sydney math. All my dad. 222 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:22,400 But hit me right now. You are 25% better if it's and 223 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,700 that there needs to be a reward because otherwise any reason why 224 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:28,800 not why would you continue to work hard? 225 00:11:29,500 --> 00:11:33,100 We don't need to have this mindset of. 226 00:11:33,500 --> 00:11:36,800 You should do this out of the goodness of your heart and have 227 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,500 that be this sort of like opposite sign of like being 228 00:11:39,500 --> 00:11:42,400 financially abundant if that makes sense. 229 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,100 Right? Like why can't those two things 230 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:45,800 coexist? They want to become a good 231 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,200 person and want to Money. Why are those two things 232 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,600 mutually exclusive? I don't doubt understand that. 233 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,200 I don't understand that and that's one of the things I want 234 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,400 to start generating conversations around for NPS 235 00:11:57,500 --> 00:12:00,500 showing what you're worth. Also having a good heart, you 236 00:12:00,500 --> 00:12:02,200 can still be a nurse practitioner, those things 237 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:05,200 intersect and that's okay. I want nurse practitioners to 238 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,700 create side hustles to do things independent of their workplace. 239 00:12:08,700 --> 00:12:11,900 If their work least isn't paying them what they deserve, then go 240 00:12:11,900 --> 00:12:15,300 and find and create and do things that are going to bring 241 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:17,400 you money to supplement your income. 242 00:12:17,500 --> 00:12:21,200 Come eventually, you can leave that other job and go do the 243 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:23,500 thing that brings you Joy and light you up in an 244 00:12:23,500 --> 00:12:26,400 entrepreneurial space. If you want to if not you can 245 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:28,400 find another company that's going to pay. 246 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:31,900 You you can go into industry, you can go into corporate like 247 00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:35,400 there are spaces for nurses in every field especially if you 248 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:39,200 feel like you're not being compensated appropriately and I 249 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,000 love that NP Hub. Is an option for nurses to 250 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,600 generate some income. And with that being said, please 251 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,800 describe to The structure of NP have and describe to me kind of 252 00:12:52,100 --> 00:12:55,300 how the process works don't lie. So I think the easiest reference 253 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:57,200 point I like to explain this Airbnb. 254 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:01,200 So we developed a platform that helps connect nursing NP 255 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,300 students with preceptors around the country. 256 00:13:03,700 --> 00:13:07,300 The idea like you said, we're a few minutes ago was that again? 257 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:10,700 NP students precept, free throws are massively underappreciated. 258 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,900 So I model was okay, let's bring them together. 259 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,400 Let's appreciate is community. That's all week, we appreciate 260 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,100 the community and Then on the other side of the student side 261 00:13:19,100 --> 00:13:21,100 is, the students are beg. Borrow and pleading, for the 262 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:23,100 preceptor, what if we gave him options? 263 00:13:23,300 --> 00:13:25,700 What if they can actually choose the preceptor, they wanted to 264 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:29,200 work as opposed to begging for anyone that says, yes, right? 265 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,500 And that's why you could get a look at. 266 00:13:30,500 --> 00:13:33,200 So, on the NP Hub on the, on the platform. 267 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:35,700 But you can go to our website. There, you could basically 268 00:13:35,700 --> 00:13:38,100 search for preceptors, given your criteria for your student. 269 00:13:38,900 --> 00:13:40,900 Okay? So hey, I'm looking for a 270 00:13:41,100 --> 00:13:45,900 women's health, preceptor in Dallas, Texas to start on this 271 00:13:45,900 --> 00:13:48,900 date, and then you'll see. Maybe five options come up for 272 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:51,500 three options, come up or 20 options or whatever, it's angry 273 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:55,200 character in a market and twenty options and then you literally 274 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,000 can open up these tabs and we'll read through the descriptions. 275 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,400 Okay. Hey, the patient population is 276 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,300 this, this is the type of patients that they see. 277 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,200 This is the dress code that this is a note that the student 278 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:06,700 appreciative might leave for the student. 279 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,900 Hey, I want to ask fourth semester, students, preferably 280 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,100 because I might want to hire you afterwards. 281 00:14:12,300 --> 00:14:14,500 So like first semester you didn't know him like I do. 282 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,300 This is a fast-paced clinic. They see 30 patients a day. 283 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:19,900 I'm not quick food but this is a slower car. 284 00:14:19,900 --> 00:14:21,100 Now they see five patients a day. 285 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:22,700 Ten patients a day, that's good for. 286 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,400 I want to go there, you know, so there's extra clouds are 287 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,000 matching experience. So on the student side, they 288 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,100 have this platform, they can come in on the preceptor side 289 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:37,500 right for then, it's making this experience easy for because it's 290 00:14:37,500 --> 00:14:39,800 been such a massive barrier to precip. 291 00:14:40,300 --> 00:14:44,000 Do you want a precipice student? You basically can like randomly, 292 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,500 just, like, put it online, put on social media or something 293 00:14:46,500 --> 00:14:48,500 like that and like a You're gonna start messaging. 294 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:50,000 You don't know anything about that. 295 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:52,500 The resume don't have the experience, you don't know 296 00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:55,800 anything about them when you get a request, when your preceptor 297 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:59,000 on our platform you basically reach out to someone on our team 298 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,500 and they basically give you this walkthrough. 299 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,500 They ask you these questions, they interview you what's your 300 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:06,200 clinic life? Well the patient's you see 301 00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:09,700 everything that everything is going to ask you over and over 302 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:10,800 and over and over and over again. 303 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,100 Every time they want to know about your experience, we put it 304 00:15:14,100 --> 00:15:16,800 up to you, get a request then you get a text message. 305 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,100 Hey, You got a request, check out it under dash, okay? 306 00:15:20,100 --> 00:15:22,500 And you can request your CD. You want to interview, okay, let 307 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:23,900 us know organizing hearing treat. 308 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,900 Everybody just wants a bright student. 309 00:15:25,900 --> 00:15:29,500 That's understandable you? Yeah, what we've seen is 310 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:36,100 preceptors People want to precept, but the issue is a lot 311 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:39,100 of times at work there bogged down with with, they either had 312 00:15:39,100 --> 00:15:41,700 two issues. It had students in the past, has 313 00:15:41,700 --> 00:15:45,100 ruined it for them or and work. It's really busy, and they're 314 00:15:45,100 --> 00:15:48,800 afraid to slow down. So what you may want to 315 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,100 interpret them, you may want to communicate with them and I 316 00:15:51,100 --> 00:15:54,900 think for us being that barrier in between does two things, it 317 00:15:54,900 --> 00:15:57,600 makes the student, take the precepting experience, more 318 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,500 seriously, and the preceptor takes it more seriously, as well 319 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:02,600 as when there's a financial exchange. 320 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,700 There's also a sense of ownership over this. 321 00:16:06,300 --> 00:16:09,600 I love this quote that says, when you pay, you pay attention, 322 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,800 I love that book was, it's not great because when you play the 323 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,700 gold you there's this kind of connection between the moment 324 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:19,000 you put Government me your little more invested in. 325 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,500 Okay, where is this going? What's happening? 326 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,000 Because it hurts a little bit right on the 3, chapter side as 327 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,800 well. When they are receiving some 328 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,000 sort of compensation optimization, they're taking it 329 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,500 more seriously. Yes, it is true. 330 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,000 It's more than just. Oh yeah. 331 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,400 But Mia come Shadow me a little bit and all things are getting 332 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,400 busy. Don't show up to there are no we 333 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:41,100 don't have What you're describing is that the people 334 00:16:41,100 --> 00:16:45,100 that are paying for this service they really want they want yet 335 00:16:45,100 --> 00:16:47,700 laid clinical experience here at thousand percent, right? 336 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:50,200 And it's funny budesonide, some of our students eventually 337 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,800 turned into. Obviously they have serious 338 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:54,800 eventually, become preceptors, but we've actually add in 339 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,400 several cases, students, open up a clinic in their old preceptor 340 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,800 ended up being the, the collaborating physician. 341 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:05,300 In some cases. Why is it really gonna study 342 00:17:05,300 --> 00:17:08,400 credible? Let's talk a little bit again, 343 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:10,099 to finish up. Wrap up. 344 00:17:10,300 --> 00:17:13,300 How can a sign up? And again, what is the like, 345 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:16,200 average pay? What are the average preceptor 346 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:18,099 pay? And then how do they sign up to 347 00:17:18,099 --> 00:17:19,900 join npm as it's a great question. 348 00:17:19,900 --> 00:17:23,800 So how you sign up is basically you can go to nba.com and then 349 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:26,599 there's a button that a compass has become a preceptor, and you 350 00:17:26,599 --> 00:17:28,700 can put in your information there and someone in our team 351 00:17:28,700 --> 00:17:32,100 will reach out to you probably the fastest way any other way is 352 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:35,800 you can also even though it's kind of rare, you could also 353 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,800 just go to our website and you'll see our phone number and 354 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,000 choose a text. Say, Hey, I want to present and 355 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,800 believe me. So I was going to call you. 356 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:47,000 Oh, quick, grab hungry. They're ready for you. 357 00:17:49,700 --> 00:17:53,600 All right, now, in terms of compensation, so, it does, there 358 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,800 is a range, right? So different Specialties. 359 00:17:55,900 --> 00:17:59,400 We basically have tried to create as much triple most 360 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,000 possible. So, we allow our preceptors in a 361 00:18:03,008 --> 00:18:06,300 way to sort of like choose their own pricing will let you know 362 00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:08,900 what, what what the typical is. And if you want to increase it 363 00:18:08,900 --> 00:18:12,000 or you want to Preset base of what a typical is in your area. 364 00:18:12,100 --> 00:18:13,800 That's based of specialty location. 365 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:17,300 You can do that, I would say, on average, most our preceptors, 366 00:18:17,300 --> 00:18:22,900 take two students of semester. And I would like to say that a 367 00:18:22,908 --> 00:18:24,800 thousand per student is very reasonable. 368 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,300 You know it could be. Did you hear that? 369 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,500 That wasn't pursued. It could be less than 750. 370 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,100 You shouldn't be any less than 50. 371 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:35,500 It could be more if you like really hot specialty and like 372 00:18:35,500 --> 00:18:40,100 New York City or like La fine, get it but like doesn't 317. 373 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:45,600 When you're taking two students, a semester for 38 students, a 374 00:18:45,608 --> 00:18:47,800 year that they Grant your team of six students a year. 375 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:55,400 That's extreme Guys nurses kidnappee broke or for doubt we 376 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,500 should not be hooked again. Check out MP Hub. 377 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,500 See if it's something that you want to do with your business. 378 00:19:02,500 --> 00:19:05,500 If you own your own business taking on students just extra 379 00:19:05,500 --> 00:19:09,800 income, I know students will especially NP students would 380 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:13,400 love to see an entrepreneur. We want more people doing what 381 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,300 we're all doing. So we're not short staffed or 382 00:19:15,300 --> 00:19:17,200 we're not all tired of are not exhausted. 383 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,100 Like there's a there's plenty to go around. 384 00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:22,700 I definitely feel Like we need to do a better job at a 385 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:26,700 cultivating in abundance mindset having students on letting them 386 00:19:26,700 --> 00:19:30,600 see what you do. Not only that it will change you 387 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:34,100 as the preceptor. If you can create connections, 388 00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:37,800 if you can mentor. And take this person that you're 389 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:42,100 bringing on as a student, you might find that you could 390 00:19:42,100 --> 00:19:43,900 actually end up changing their lives. 391 00:19:43,900 --> 00:19:46,100 You could end up being the person that they go. 392 00:19:46,100 --> 00:19:49,700 I had this one preceptor and she did this and it changed. 393 00:19:49,900 --> 00:19:53,500 My trajectory for my life or whichever, and that's really 394 00:19:53,500 --> 00:19:55,900 what it's about. We're not in competition, we're 395 00:19:55,900 --> 00:19:57,500 supposed to be collaborating with one another. 396 00:19:57,500 --> 00:20:01,100 And I love that story that they ended up collaborating at the 397 00:20:01,100 --> 00:20:03,100 end of their preceptorship because they were like, You're 398 00:20:03,100 --> 00:20:06,500 great and I want you working with me and we should have that 399 00:20:06,500 --> 00:20:10,700 should be the Mantra that we have in nursing Adrian. 400 00:20:10,700 --> 00:20:14,200 You know, you meet our prices. You know what it was we paid or 401 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,900 NPCs the same apparent these We're really important to me 402 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:20,100 when we're creating this, we're going to pay or NP, the same new 403 00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:22,100 pages are empty. So the kickback was like, yeah, 404 00:20:22,100 --> 00:20:23,800 we made less money, but that's why. 405 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,700 Because just because you can charge see for us. 406 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:28,700 Just can you give me be paid in your freezer for last? 407 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:30,400 Because they're not used to being paid, doesn't mean you 408 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,100 should does it mean you could just look at you, the charge 409 00:20:33,100 --> 00:20:35,200 will spend it more. It doesn't mean you should, you 410 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,800 know, there's ethics involved with how we do things, very good 411 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:40,900 people sleep at night, I want to make it super clear to, you 412 00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:43,300 know, like my team is going to be like you did say to write 413 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:46,300 what we will, can't we pay our preceptors? 414 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,100 More it, for the longer, the students there. 415 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,200 So, one of the things that really drives me nuts is people 416 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,800 aren't really valued for their time. 417 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:54,900 They, this is just like it's Doric, right? 418 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:57,500 So, you do extra work, you should get paid more, you take a 419 00:20:57,500 --> 00:21:00,300 student on for 2:00. There's more compensation, take 420 00:21:00,300 --> 00:21:02,100 a student office, its jobs is less competition. 421 00:21:02,100 --> 00:21:04,300 That's reasonable. That's fair, even though that's, 422 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:06,000 yeah, they don't want everyone to know that. 423 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,900 So you taking on these students for longer hours, it's more than 424 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:10,700 1,000. So keep that in mind, it is 425 00:21:12,100 --> 00:21:15,300 Crazy. How many students preceptors 426 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:18,600 have told us that having a student, especially for the 427 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,300 preceptor that are sort of, like, on the fence. 428 00:21:20,300 --> 00:21:21,700 It's like maybe they had a year to you. 429 00:21:21,700 --> 00:21:24,000 Need a year of experience, a qualifying to be a preceptor. 430 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,700 Don't think the suit? This is the rule for every 431 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:27,600 school. These priests scepters, these 432 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,300 new preceptors, he's fresh and peas. 433 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:32,000 That one, two, three years of experience that still have that 434 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,600 sort of like Aang. Sometimes they are like I'm not 435 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,400 ready to teach something I'd want to. 436 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,500 There's so many priests a that they do it and they and it's 437 00:21:39,500 --> 00:21:43,600 like this confidence boost of how much SLI, no kala bad are 438 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:45,600 they were right there and then because they still remember what 439 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:49,100 it was like to feel so lonely and then people today are the 440 00:21:49,100 --> 00:21:53,100 best precepts. Yeah, that makes so much sense, 441 00:21:53,100 --> 00:21:55,000 he knows what if you're still hearing about it you're like oh 442 00:21:55,000 --> 00:22:00,400 I'll do it in a few years. Just think about Precepting one 443 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,100 student is not a commitment. Just tried one and see if it 444 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:06,600 actually is like you're not ready yet or if you're just a 445 00:22:06,608 --> 00:22:09,700 little nervous that's really good. 446 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:11,600 Any other qualifications that they need? 447 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,400 I would say that, you know, one year of experience valid 448 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,800 license, obviously. Yeah. 449 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,700 The the the ki-45 Specialties tend to get the most requests 450 00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:22,200 which is primary care, Women's Health Pediatrics. 451 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,300 Like mental health, he even a major Market. 452 00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:26,700 That's why I love and be happy because it's like, okay, I can 453 00:22:26,700 --> 00:22:28,500 go do that. I can go make more little bit 454 00:22:28,500 --> 00:22:30,500 more. Money over here and two thousand 455 00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:33,400 dollars that can, you know? Again if you're saying eight 456 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:37,200 thousand dollars a year back, I can't change the needle on 457 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,800 certain things, hey, your house quicker, I can change the needle 458 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,000 on student loans. Student loves that can change 459 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,600 the needle on putting away for your college for your children, 460 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,600 that, that changes the needle. First, a lot of things for 461 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,200 people. And so, yeah, we can't 462 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,500 underestimate these little things that we can do as we work 463 00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,400 at a bigger and micro job. Macro job, Then we can have our 464 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,700 hand in multiple pots. You never want to just be in one 465 00:23:01,700 --> 00:23:05,200 pot with you. I think what really kills me is 466 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:09,200 that this understanding that I feel like I would never have 467 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,000 these conversations wouldn't happen when I'm talking it and 468 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:14,300 decrease that, there's or empties. 469 00:23:14,300 --> 00:23:16,000 This is what bothers me. The most is that they're doing 470 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:20,700 the same thing, but in one, it's just like this ideological thing 471 00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:23,500 of, oh, I shouldn't be able to do this or we should do this. 472 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,700 We should just have the goodness of our heart. 473 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,100 That's what you hear every going to talk to University. 474 00:23:29,300 --> 00:23:30,900 Oh beep a preset. There's no. 475 00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:32,500 They should do the goodness of their heart. 476 00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:34,900 I'm sorry. Priest nurse, who hasn't you 477 00:23:34,900 --> 00:23:37,400 know, bit seen a patient in 50 years. 478 00:23:38,500 --> 00:23:41,400 What's happening right now is you cannot scale education. 479 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,700 You cannot solve the the health care shortage in the US by the 480 00:23:44,700 --> 00:23:48,300 goodness of someone's heart is never anything but a problem you 481 00:23:48,300 --> 00:23:52,500 fix it to a scalable solution that fits everybody. 482 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,400 Okay, sure. I wish food. 483 00:23:54,500 --> 00:23:57,300 I was free and I could get free Transportation everywhere in the 484 00:23:57,300 --> 00:24:00,300 world or public transportation. Every city was free, but this is 485 00:24:00,300 --> 00:24:04,400 not how these people hurts. Nurses have been taught to just 486 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,500 go work in the hospital. Don't look around, don't and 487 00:24:07,500 --> 00:24:09,600 it's like, no, we need to be questioning, we need to be 488 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,800 looking around, we need to be seeing, what are their options 489 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:13,500 are? And not feel like we can't do 490 00:24:13,500 --> 00:24:15,200 other things. And I think that, that is also 491 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,500 bad and we end up staying oppressed by not seeing all the 492 00:24:18,500 --> 00:24:22,500 options that we have Mikhail dream when you're told narrowly. 493 00:24:22,500 --> 00:24:24,600 You could only go here. So, I'm only going to be a 494 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,400 primary care nurse practitioner. But yet I found out afterwards, 495 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,300 like, oh wait, I can first assist at the bedside, like 496 00:24:30,300 --> 00:24:32,200 what? Oh, I can help. 497 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,800 Like Harvest like veins. And I can learn how to do what 498 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,800 pig know that I did not know interested in yours. 499 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:42,700 Let's open him up. Let's let people see what's 500 00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:44,700 going on around here. Let's let the left hand know 501 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:47,100 what the writing it's doing. Let's talk, let's talk. 502 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,400 That's interesting, you're right. 503 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,000 And we can't have those conversations if we aren't 504 00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:56,000 collaborating, if we aren't talking again, scarcity, mindset 505 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,200 doesn't allow for more opportunities. 506 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,600 It decreases opportunities. It created you look at Bombs 507 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,900 instead of this could possibly solve, this could actually be 508 00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:09,800 solutions by looking at it through an abundance lens. 509 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,200 No, you're right, you're absolutely right. 510 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,200 Yeah. You're describing like a growth 511 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,800 mindset. It growth-oriented growth 512 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,100 mindset community of nurses that this probably not nearly enough 513 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:22,300 of them. Erin, I would imagine, then you 514 00:25:22,300 --> 00:25:24,700 kind of bringing like East expert, nurses, to kind of like 515 00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:27,500 yourself or like the need and Pete kind of do a talk and like, 516 00:25:27,700 --> 00:25:29,900 share that with the community and really give us knowledge. 517 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,200 Yeah, and there's some of those He's out there. 518 00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:35,200 Yeah, I've never heard sisters are creating them. 519 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:38,100 I've been to a couple of them. I've been a part of them and 520 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:40,400 they're great. You just go and you talk about 521 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,900 the things that you want to be a part of and you are passionate 522 00:25:43,900 --> 00:25:46,400 about and things that you want to see in nursing. 523 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,700 What I love is that the people that are in charge of them 524 00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:52,300 really want to make sure that the people are being fostered 525 00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:54,700 and they're being seen and they're being, you know, 526 00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:57,800 encouraged and stuff like that. So they're out there for sure. 527 00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:01,700 So for the last part of the interview and ready, we do. 528 00:26:02,300 --> 00:26:05,500 Rapid fire. OK, these are coming at you 529 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:07,400 fast, you're ready or not to curse. 530 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,100 Well, that's okay. Oh yeah. 531 00:26:11,900 --> 00:26:15,200 What's the best age to be? The age you are. 532 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,300 The age you are not, right? And what is your favorite game 533 00:26:19,300 --> 00:26:20,500 of all time? Lord gay. 534 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,500 We game a chat, says chest comes to my only chance challenge. 535 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:31,400 Okay. Okay. 536 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,400 Get the game of strategy. And then what are you most 537 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:36,700 grateful for in the whole wide world? 538 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,900 My team. And I care a lot about like 539 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:46,800 especially with my first 15 20 employees, like it, it gives me 540 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,100 a reason to try to get, I do it. I do a lot of what I do for 541 00:26:50,100 --> 00:26:54,700 them. Yeah, that's really cool because 542 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:58,800 that's again, leadership trickles down, right? 543 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,800 And so they know when you care about them. 544 00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:06,200 So when they know when you have that serve it like you would do 545 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,200 anything for these people. People work differently when 546 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,000 they feel that way. I think from a preceptor point 547 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,400 of view, it's you guys about underappreciated for a long time 548 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:19,000 and you shouldn't be whether you presumptive us. 549 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:20,800 If we suppose someone else is more than enough to go. 550 00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:23,900 Right. But you shouldn't get support 551 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,200 and I think that's the biggest thing. 552 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,300 It doesn't need to be the time, so that's our. 553 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,300 I'm on a hub guys. It's not something that I'm just 554 00:27:30,300 --> 00:27:35,000 preaching, and I'm not about and I think that again more NPS need 555 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,700 to just jump on. We need to support our nurse 556 00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:40,900 practitioner students and ain't nothing wrong with getting paid 557 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,300 while you do it. So that's a wrap. 558 00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:47,800 Be sure to subscribe to the show so you don't miss an episode and 559 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,300 leave me a review. If you like the show, I would 560 00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:53,400 love to get five. 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