1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,900 Hi and welcome to another episode of the doctor nurse 2 00:00:03,900 --> 00:00:05,600 podcast. I am so happy. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,200 You decided to join me today. My name is Sandra Penta, and I 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,300 am the host of the podcast. I'm a doctoral you prepared 5 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:15,900 nurse practitioner who wants to share stories of nurses and 6 00:00:15,900 --> 00:00:19,100 nurse practitioners who are utilizing their degrees and 7 00:00:19,100 --> 00:00:23,000 their certifications with a business mindset, after spending 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,300 from age 18, to 30 pursuing various levels of nursing 9 00:00:27,300 --> 00:00:29,300 degrees. I wondered if there was 10 00:00:29,300 --> 00:00:32,100 something more or I could do with my knowledge away from the 11 00:00:32,100 --> 00:00:34,700 bedside and away from the hospital rat race. 12 00:00:34,700 --> 00:00:38,900 This question that I was asking of myself, I knew it had to be 13 00:00:38,900 --> 00:00:40,900 shared with other nurses and nurse practitioners. 14 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:44,900 So I sought to figure out, just what we could do with our 15 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:48,600 education and our certifications away from the bedside come, 16 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:52,200 listen, as I have conversations to help you grow your career 17 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,800 with a freedom, in an Endless Options mindset. 18 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,900 Thanks for hanging out with me on the podcast today and let's 19 00:00:58,900 --> 00:01:01,600 hear a word from my sponsor. 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I doctors podcast family. 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,300 Welcome to another episode of the doctors podcast today, I 35 00:01:56,300 --> 00:01:59,400 have on Loranger. Oh, did I say that? 36 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:06,300 Roy, Roy Roy. And she is the owner CEO lady in 37 00:02:06,300 --> 00:02:09,199 charge of nurse practice that she started in 2021 after 38 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:11,700 hitting rock bottom. And nursing and she was a 39 00:02:11,700 --> 00:02:15,900 full-time nurse practitioner. She's got a bunch of really cool 40 00:02:15,900 --> 00:02:18,300 horses for people to check out time. 41 00:02:18,300 --> 00:02:23,500 Hack Warrior energy, rock star. She's got a lot of things that I 42 00:02:23,500 --> 00:02:26,900 know she can help people become more efficient at managing their 43 00:02:26,900 --> 00:02:31,300 practice and helping you create. Side hustles as well and I'm 44 00:02:31,300 --> 00:02:34,400 just really happy to have her on today to talk about in courses 45 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,300 Evergreen platforms, things of that nature because it guys this 46 00:02:38,300 --> 00:02:41,700 podcast, I really want to start focusing in on helping you guys 47 00:02:41,700 --> 00:02:43,700 develop that stuff for yourselves. 48 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:47,400 And so trying to get on people on the podcast to talk about 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,400 these things are our priority. So, first off, welcome Lauren, I 50 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:51,300 can't wait to hear about everything. 51 00:02:51,300 --> 00:02:54,200 You're in Vin and share everything that you've got going 52 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,200 off book. So thank you, sister. 53 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:59,500 I'm so excited to be here. Is love you so much because 54 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:00,900 relief, We always have fun together. 55 00:03:00,900 --> 00:03:02,800 I've kind of talked a little bit about some of the stuff that 56 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,200 you've been involved in and what you created. 57 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,500 I think it'd be cool if you just described how you see your role 58 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:10,700 and what it is that you do day to day. 59 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,100 Alright great. Well so my story started out 60 00:03:15,100 --> 00:03:18,200 probably it really started when I was in nursing school and I've 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,600 shared this before but I kind of I was are not nursing school but 62 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,600 nurse practitioners and as an ICU nurse and I really felt kind 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,300 of had it all figured out and I was excited about becoming a doc 64 00:03:29,300 --> 00:03:32,400 and pee he and I was an ICU nurse really proud of that and I 65 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,900 had like a Swanky Cadillac Coupe car and I thought you gonna quit 66 00:03:35,900 --> 00:03:38,900 listening to music, I'm more of a sophisticated person now. 67 00:03:39,100 --> 00:03:43,000 So the people like like Robert Kiyosaki, is that kind of stuff 68 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,100 and figure out where you put all this money because I'm just so 69 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:49,300 you know so after yeah yeah and it hit me like a ton of bricks 70 00:03:49,300 --> 00:03:53,300 but he explains that being tied to all those school loans and 71 00:03:53,300 --> 00:03:56,600 being tied to an hourly job really limits you. 72 00:03:56,900 --> 00:03:59,800 And I just thought, oh my gosh, he's so right. 73 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,800 So first of all quit, living that way, I downsized right 74 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,300 after I got out, I had a really beautiful house and then I 75 00:04:06,308 --> 00:04:08,000 actually down sighs. It's funny because the banks are 76 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:09,700 even like, are you going through a bankruptcy? 77 00:04:09,700 --> 00:04:11,000 Because this house is worth last. 78 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:12,700 Nobody goes down to a smaller house for no reason. 79 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:15,600 I'm like, no, it's because I want to be more conservative and 80 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:18,300 got into a more practical vehicle. 81 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,399 I changed the way. I did those things but I knew 82 00:04:20,399 --> 00:04:21,500 that something else had happened. 83 00:04:21,500 --> 00:04:26,100 But once I ran into becoming a, to go over a practice and I ran 84 00:04:26,100 --> 00:04:29,300 this family practice. It was owned by a hospital, but 85 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:32,400 I was literally early, the only provider and office right out 86 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,300 the door. First day, it was 18, 20 87 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:37,300 patients a day and they wanted me to grow the practice from 88 00:04:37,300 --> 00:04:39,100 there. I was pregnant my baby boy. 89 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:43,700 My first baby boy Gage and I realized real quick that went 90 00:04:43,700 --> 00:04:47,200 into nurse practitioner because I had this illusion that it was 91 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:51,900 going to be more of a balance in life then a physician than an 92 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:55,200 MD, D 0, and I realized really quickly that was not the case. 93 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:59,200 And I was stressed, I honestly felt I had been taken advantage 94 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,800 of in some way because Has went into this higher degree. 95 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,800 So I could have a better quality of life and I found out really 96 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:06,700 fast. I missed being a nurse in the 97 00:05:06,700 --> 00:05:10,700 ICU and are you had it in the time that I was working over, 98 00:05:10,700 --> 00:05:14,000 what I did, as a nurse, it wasn't any more page unless I 99 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,300 can think of better. You're making less. 100 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:19,500 Yeah, I hit burn up really fast and I legitimately thought I 101 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:21,300 never. Would I remember like, you know, 102 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:24,000 following dots who are really burnt out and kind of bitter, 103 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,100 even towards our patient and thought off, they just went into 104 00:05:26,100 --> 00:05:28,100 it for the money and that's why I'm not in this for the money. 105 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:30,200 I'm in it for the to take care of people, so I'm I'm not going 106 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,600 to burn out and whenever you sacrifice everything like your 107 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:38,200 family, and my son, I hardly saw him and that's where the covid. 108 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,100 It got really bad as already working 50 hours a week and then 109 00:05:42,100 --> 00:05:44,600 with covid I was working like 60 hours a week and I literally 110 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,300 just broke down had a near breakdown. 111 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:50,400 I remember, just tears coming down my face, my husband, and I 112 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:52,100 went on a vacation, I would probably shouldn't have done it, 113 00:05:52,100 --> 00:05:55,300 but I knew everything was starting to probably shut down 114 00:05:55,300 --> 00:05:56,200 was like, we got to go somewhere. 115 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,900 So, literally that next week we went to Cabo like I just need to 116 00:05:58,900 --> 00:06:01,700 get away. Tears streaming down my face 117 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:04,400 because I knew what I was coming back to and fast forward. 118 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,100 I had my son at home and he was older, and he already didn't see 119 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:09,300 me and I knew that things are about to get so much worse. 120 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,600 And there was this little girl, these red pigtails and she was 121 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,100 looking at me and pointing to her mom, like she's crying. 122 00:06:15,100 --> 00:06:18,400 She's crying, you know, and I were just thinking I look like a 123 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,300 crazy person. We're going back to the airport 124 00:06:20,300 --> 00:06:23,700 from the hotel and I was just crying, I totally broke down. 125 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:28,300 My marriage was in near shambles, we went through a very 126 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:31,100 near divorce. Early days away from standing in 127 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:35,200 front of the judge. And I hardly saw my son and I 128 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,500 just decided that instead of completely breaking down which I 129 00:06:37,508 --> 00:06:40,200 did, I did for a little bit. Is that just completely 130 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,600 decomposing? I decided to decompress figure 131 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,200 out. How can I make this better? 132 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,500 How can I make my life more manageable? 133 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,600 Because running this clinic by myself? 134 00:06:48,700 --> 00:06:51,800 I was just losing it and I figured out how to. 135 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,500 And I started thinking I was like, you know what, there are 136 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:56,900 people, who are billionaires, who run, huge, huge companies, 137 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:59,700 they do way more than I do. I need to start thinking the 138 00:06:59,900 --> 00:07:03,000 It's goes, smarter not harder. Yeah, and that's whenever all my 139 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:06,000 time hacking came into place and that's whenever I started to the 140 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,300 memory optimized and that was kind of the beginning of things. 141 00:07:09,300 --> 00:07:11,700 In the back of my head, I knew that I wanted to build things 142 00:07:11,700 --> 00:07:14,000 that were Evergreen, they knew that that was a thing. 143 00:07:14,100 --> 00:07:16,400 For whenever I heard Robert Kiyosaki, say you could build 144 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,900 passive income make it while you're not there. 145 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:20,700 Yeah. You don't have to be in office 146 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:23,200 to make money because I were trading money in office. 147 00:07:23,500 --> 00:07:25,400 Yeah, okay, exactly. Yeah. 148 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,100 But I didn't know how to even get to where I could start doing 149 00:07:28,100 --> 00:07:29,700 that because life just went crazy. 150 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:31,700 Easy soon, as I graduated my dnp. 151 00:07:31,900 --> 00:07:34,000 So, I decide it's time. It's literally Now or Never. 152 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,400 I am just going to give up everything or I'm going to just 153 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,400 figure this out. So I started figuring how to 154 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,400 learn faster, how to read faster, how to memorize things, 155 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,600 how to be able to get through charts faster, change my 156 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,500 conversations where I could talk to somebody like pivot that 157 00:07:49,500 --> 00:07:51,900 conversation in a way. They feel heard so I could come 158 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:55,800 and get to the next person. I learned how to be more in tune 159 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,800 with myself. A lot of what I teach is not 160 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,600 just time hacks. It's also because Learned. 161 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:05,000 It's also sing in tune with yourself and the difference even 162 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,100 just like brain waves that we can go into and meditation and 163 00:08:08,100 --> 00:08:11,700 kind of staying in a different state so you can help with 164 00:08:11,700 --> 00:08:14,100 anxiety. The less your anxiety is the 165 00:08:14,100 --> 00:08:15,700 better. You can think the more you're 166 00:08:15,700 --> 00:08:20,100 going to get done and it just, it's not just a one thing that 167 00:08:20,100 --> 00:08:23,300 can fix everything. So, I did that and I started to 168 00:08:23,300 --> 00:08:25,800 get home on time and my colleagues and we can all see 169 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:28,800 above used to, I don't work there anymore but you can see it 170 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,299 who had Many patients and that kind of stuff and we talk and 171 00:08:32,299 --> 00:08:34,100 say how late were saying were stuff like that. 172 00:08:34,100 --> 00:08:38,299 And so I started to get home on time even after covid went up, 173 00:08:38,299 --> 00:08:41,100 you know during that time right before I decide time I was 174 00:08:41,100 --> 00:08:44,700 working 60 hours a week and the case law got bigger because we 175 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:47,000 were doing the office. But then we are also doing their 176 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,100 floating acid, I see you. So after all that my colleague 177 00:08:50,100 --> 00:08:51,800 started noticing this Rascal, what are you doing? 178 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:55,000 And I was like, okay so I started sharing and then that's 179 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,900 kind of how my he lured home program got brought and then 180 00:08:58,900 --> 00:09:01,400 people wanted to know, Okay so because then I was like okay 181 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,700 cool, I started doing that. I started turning into Evergreen 182 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:07,200 passive income and then if you want to know how do you do that? 183 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,600 So then I started building that out for them and teaching them 184 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,400 and that's really how it kind of grew. 185 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,200 And then I started nurse practitioners. 186 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,100 Just coaching other women and getting time hacked. 187 00:09:16,100 --> 00:09:20,100 But then also one of the best ways that you can time hack is 188 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:23,000 to hire out for the things that doesn't pay you back. 189 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,400 So I start hiring for laundry and dishes and that type of 190 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,100 thing. So I started helping my people 191 00:09:28,100 --> 00:09:30,800 without like, teaching them how to build Poseidon comes like 192 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,000 that that are passive Evergreen systems and then I was just 193 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,200 having a meeting with my girls one time and I was telling him 194 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:38,900 how also going to be in this patient. 195 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:42,300 You know, I was still working and the in primary practice and 196 00:09:42,300 --> 00:09:44,100 I said well it's one patient that I'm treating you know, 197 00:09:44,100 --> 00:09:46,300 functional because they don't they don't like medicine at all. 198 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,500 You do functional medicine and like yeah, I've done it forever 199 00:09:49,500 --> 00:09:51,700 like 440 of the time that I've practiced. 200 00:09:51,700 --> 00:09:54,900 I was really surprised that people in roll, Oklahoma, 201 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,200 actually wanted it. So I can't be done kinds of 202 00:09:57,208 --> 00:09:59,300 courses throughout so then that's how my functional 203 00:09:59,300 --> 00:10:00,900 medicine. Scheme box difficulty. 204 00:10:00,900 --> 00:10:04,400 Chasm like okay I will so everything that I've you know, 205 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,200 built has just been because other people were saying we need 206 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:08,000 this. We want it. 207 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:11,300 So that's just how at all. Yeah in a very short that's 208 00:10:11,300 --> 00:10:14,200 y'all kind of tree hired so that's really really cool. 209 00:10:14,300 --> 00:10:17,800 You said one of the things that I see reverberating in all these 210 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:21,100 entrepreneurs and there's entrepreneurs is that they are 211 00:10:21,100 --> 00:10:23,800 creating the solutions for other people's problems. 212 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,900 And so as people are coming to you and just saying hey this is 213 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:29,500 a niche, this is a whole, this is a gap, this is something that 214 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:31,600 needs. To be filled you stepping in and 215 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,300 filling that Gap creates passive income for you. 216 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:36,900 Especially if you're able to develop courses and these types 217 00:10:36,900 --> 00:10:40,300 of things that then you can go ahead and let that just continue 218 00:10:40,300 --> 00:10:43,000 to make money on its own, which is one of the things that I've 219 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,300 really wanted with the podcast is to provide opportunities to 220 00:10:46,300 --> 00:10:50,400 give nurses a business mindset to give us the mindset of how 221 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,400 can I create something from what? 222 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,100 I know already helped adjunct and support my nursing salary so 223 00:10:57,100 --> 00:10:59,600 that I can then determine how I want to live my life. 224 00:10:59,900 --> 00:11:02,000 Right? Because, yes, we are only given 225 00:11:02,000 --> 00:11:05,300 one life and to spend all of your life which is something 226 00:11:05,300 --> 00:11:08,100 that all my listeners were like, here she goes again because it's 227 00:11:08,100 --> 00:11:11,800 true just spin your whole life and to miss it so that you can 228 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,200 work. That is not living, that is just 229 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,700 called existing. That's called surviving, that's 230 00:11:17,700 --> 00:11:20,300 not thriving, and that's not what I want for nurses. 231 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:23,100 I want nurses to hear if you're in that spot where you're on the 232 00:11:23,100 --> 00:11:25,300 brink of divorce. You haven't seen your children, 233 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:29,200 you are just sitting in Cabo, which is beautiful and you're 234 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:31,300 stopping. Being we have the there is an 235 00:11:31,300 --> 00:11:34,000 option for you. And so that's really what I want 236 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,700 to bring light on to today. So what would you say is kind of 237 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:40,500 the hardest part of owning your own business? 238 00:11:40,500 --> 00:11:44,100 And what would you say that? I know that you recently stepped 239 00:11:44,100 --> 00:11:47,200 away from your your nurse practitioner job to stay home 240 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:48,900 and be more present with your children. 241 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,800 Because again, I think you just kind of learned that was really 242 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:53,800 not, okay, to not be there for the first one. 243 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,900 I can't do that again. So you made a change. 244 00:11:55,900 --> 00:11:58,500 But I was watching all of your histogram stories as you were 245 00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:00,800 walking through that process, it was Equal to CG that was really 246 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,700 inspiring. So what has been the hardest 247 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:06,700 part of owning your business and when did you decide again, you 248 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:10,000 know, you said back in 2828 sounds like that whole pandemic 249 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:11,500 kind of brought about this business. 250 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,200 When did you decide? Okay, it's time to launch out on 251 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,600 my own and really give my full heart to this. 252 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:20,100 I think only one ever. So, what's your first question? 253 00:12:20,100 --> 00:12:23,200 The hardest thing about being a nurse printer is really just 254 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:27,200 holding the belief. I had a lot of self. 255 00:12:27,500 --> 00:12:30,000 Everyone does though every single person that I work With 256 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,200 every single person. I've now worked with some of 257 00:12:32,500 --> 00:12:35,600 the, literally, some famous, as coaches. 258 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:39,500 And even them, they will tell you that, you literally look 259 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:43,600 back and feel like that imposter syndrome or, I don't know that 260 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,500 there's no way I can do this, like, I can't do this. 261 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,300 Losing faith, can be kind of in. It's a never ending things, 262 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:49,900 never in your body. You always have to kind of 263 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,700 reinvent, yourself, and reinvent your mind and know that you can, 264 00:12:52,700 --> 00:12:55,000 which that's biblical, right? The lord always wants us to be 265 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,900 doing that. So that's not something that we 266 00:12:56,900 --> 00:12:59,300 should be shocked by. But just reviewing your mind 267 00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:02,100 that you could Is do this because it doesn't ever go away 268 00:13:02,100 --> 00:13:03,100 that. You feel like I can't do like 269 00:13:03,100 --> 00:13:04,900 it'll be really pumped or really an exciting. 270 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:07,300 Like I can do this. I go for it and then literally 271 00:13:07,300 --> 00:13:09,700 like you can have I remember like the first time I hit my 272 00:13:09,700 --> 00:13:13,100 first 10K day. The next day I was like wait a 273 00:13:13,108 --> 00:13:14,500 minute I don't know if I can do this. 274 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,500 I don't know if I can do this. I was in the process of 275 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:19,800 considering two leading my job as a practitioner and I'm like I 276 00:13:19,808 --> 00:13:22,200 don't know if I can do this on my husband's leaving me like do 277 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:24,900 you see what you're doing right now but I don't know. 278 00:13:24,900 --> 00:13:27,400 I don't know like I don't know that I can so I think that's the 279 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,200 hardest thing. Like just really ensure the 280 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:29,600 women. Yeah. 281 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:33,300 I say that very transparently because not because I don't have 282 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:36,200 faith in my system is not that I don't have belief and what I do, 283 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:39,700 but I see that across the board. I see everybody feel that way 284 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,800 and especially when you're hitting Milestones, it's really, 285 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,500 really easy to back down and be like, no, no, no, I can't do 286 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:46,900 this, I can't do this. I'm not the right person. 287 00:13:46,900 --> 00:13:49,000 This is the flute. This is totally employ every 288 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:50,900 thing. Yeah, yeah. 289 00:13:50,900 --> 00:13:53,700 I think that's the, that's the hardest part ever. 290 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:58,600 I decided to fully go all in. It was probably after I had. 291 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:02,200 So I Didn't just do this. I didn't just learn everything 292 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:05,700 100% alone. I actually I invested in a 293 00:14:05,700 --> 00:14:06,700 coach. Yeah. 294 00:14:06,700 --> 00:14:08,700 And now I share how much it was for the longest time. 295 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:11,700 I didn't tell my husband, it's really funny because he found 296 00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:14,300 out, because he was like, oh my gosh, we've made like whenever I 297 00:14:14,308 --> 00:14:15,900 first heard my business, but we've made a lot of money from 298 00:14:15,900 --> 00:14:17,200 me. Hit my taxes, you know. 299 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,500 Not a lot, not a lot but we, you know, we make a money. 300 00:14:19,500 --> 00:14:21,000 Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I was 301 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,100 like, I think are going to be okay, though, I think we're 302 00:14:23,100 --> 00:14:24,600 okay. I think that I've spent enough 303 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,400 to write off and he's like, what did you do? 304 00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:29,400 And I'm it's healthy. How much I spent on my business 305 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,100 coach, because it was like, eight thousand dollars and yes, 306 00:14:33,100 --> 00:14:37,300 but that's why I feel so fast because I learned legitimate 307 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,900 tactics that's why I like than three months. 308 00:14:40,100 --> 00:14:43,200 I was saying the 10K and then six, it was 20 and all that it 309 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,000 happened because I invested that was for sure. 310 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,100 The I went all in and you're so whenever I was yeah yeah I'll 311 00:14:49,100 --> 00:14:49,900 myself. Yeah. 312 00:14:49,900 --> 00:14:53,400 And I had to because then I had this huge it was like bigger 313 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:55,900 than my mortgage payment to pay back because it's not put Aldrin 314 00:14:55,900 --> 00:14:57,600 33-year note. I had to pay it off. 315 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,800 Off and I joke with my coach all the time. 316 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:03,000 I would say, I have the money to pay you that first month. 317 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:04,900 But then after that, I was like, I don't know what I'ma Do Is I 318 00:15:04,908 --> 00:15:07,500 sign this contract. Not like, I don't, I don't know 319 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:11,000 that I can pay it, so it put it back up against a wall. 320 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,700 And I was like, all right, Lauren, every single morning, 321 00:15:13,700 --> 00:15:15,000 woke up. So I was like, I can't do this, 322 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:16,700 my family. I can't Rob my family of those. 323 00:15:16,700 --> 00:15:20,000 I've got to do the lessons. I've got to implement the things 324 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:23,000 and that was one of our went all-in, for sure, because I was 325 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:24,400 terrified. I thought there's no way I'm 326 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,100 here talking. I was like, can you just get me 327 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:29,300 to match my NP? Come because I can be free of 328 00:15:29,300 --> 00:15:30,500 that time. And she was like, yes. 329 00:15:30,500 --> 00:15:32,400 And I was like, don't know that. I believe you. 330 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:35,000 I'm gonna give you this money anyhow because otherwise, it 331 00:15:35,008 --> 00:15:36,300 will back out. I was like will you take my 332 00:15:36,300 --> 00:15:37,800 card? And now she's like yeah, like 333 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,100 the easiest sale ever for her, you know. 334 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:42,300 Cause I was just I was just like, okay, just do it right now 335 00:15:42,300 --> 00:15:44,700 because I will not do it. If we get off this call, I will 336 00:15:44,700 --> 00:15:47,000 not do it. I knew that I wouldn't and I did 337 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,100 and then I literally have instant regret because I was 338 00:15:49,100 --> 00:15:52,300 like, this is a huge investment. We did not have the money, your 339 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:54,100 enemy. It was like, literally. 340 00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:56,900 I didn't know how I was going to pay it the next month because I 341 00:15:56,900 --> 00:15:59,000 didn't have theirs. A fifteen hundred dollar payment 342 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:01,400 a month. And I was like, I don't like I 343 00:16:01,408 --> 00:16:03,700 don't just have that sitting around I didn't at that time. 344 00:16:03,700 --> 00:16:06,900 So that was for sure, of me going all in that moment right 345 00:16:06,900 --> 00:16:09,100 there. Yeah, that's an all-in moment. 346 00:16:09,100 --> 00:16:11,300 That's really cool. And again, but I love about that 347 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:15,400 story is that you just placed the bet on yourself and I think 348 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,800 so many more. Nurses are afraid to bet on 349 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,200 themselves. It's so easy to just go for the 350 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:25,700 sure thing and to just pay your Penance and row, the boat, and 351 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:27,600 I'm just going to keep growing and it's fine. 352 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:30,300 Even though you're getting tired and you're exhausted and you 353 00:16:30,308 --> 00:16:31,900 don't want to row the boat anymore, you're sick of the 354 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:34,400 boat. It's easier than I'm just going 355 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,200 to take a bet on myself and give it a shot. 356 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,100 I think it's good to hear those stories because when people hear 357 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,100 she was scared and she did it anyway me too. 358 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:45,800 And that's how, you know, you're living because you're scared and 359 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,900 you're doing it any hundred percent? 360 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:51,600 Yeah. But if I can say, it's not the 361 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,400 easier thing to stay. I can tell you my life is a lot 362 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,100 easier now, it is the familiar thing and just Like you were 363 00:16:58,100 --> 00:17:00,800 saying that's not the living thing familiar, doesn't mean 364 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,099 living familiar does not mean good, it doesn't mean that you 365 00:17:04,099 --> 00:17:07,099 living in your purpose because I mean even if we look at like 366 00:17:07,099 --> 00:17:09,900 look at like Moses lovely and he's terrified, right? 367 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:12,300 He was terrified when God was like no do this. 368 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,700 He said no. But I can't, I can't, I don't 369 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:16,300 speak good. I'm not intelligent. 370 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:18,099 I'm not this. I'm not that and the Lord 371 00:17:18,099 --> 00:17:20,500 literally got mad at him. It said, like, he burned with 372 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:23,099 anger at Moses. He's like, man, I'm working 373 00:17:23,099 --> 00:17:25,700 through you, like no, like wit stop this. 374 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:29,600 Stop this thing. It's not as a repetitive thing 375 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:31,300 in the Bible. If you look there's tons of 376 00:17:31,300 --> 00:17:35,000 stories with that same kind of thing and it's because we as 377 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:38,800 humans do that and nurses have such an advantage. 378 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,200 Like we are one of the most respected professions for really 379 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,900 good reason. I have not yet to meet a nurse 380 00:17:44,900 --> 00:17:48,200 who didn't go into it for the heart and for the passion and 381 00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:51,000 wanting to do it, like, you know, going to care for people 382 00:17:51,300 --> 00:17:53,300 as a physician but that's not why you're doing this. 383 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:55,600 Like you're doing it for being able to help people and change 384 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,800 their lives and to make more of an impact, right? 385 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,000 Like you could write prescriptions at least for me. 386 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,000 Yeah, corrupt. Make a bigger impact. 387 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,400 When you're able to write a prescription, you're able to go 388 00:18:05,700 --> 00:18:08,800 go pick this up or you're able to just do that power of that 389 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,400 pain, right? That's really what I was. 390 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,700 Yes, I was after was just being able to go. 391 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:14,700 No, I don't have to check. You know. 392 00:18:14,700 --> 00:18:16,500 I don't have to ask a physician. Can you give me an order for 393 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:17,700 that? Like I would just go like I 394 00:18:17,700 --> 00:18:19,500 don't need to do here. Like we had here, sighing. 395 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:24,400 So that power and that ability to affect people and change them 396 00:18:24,500 --> 00:18:26,700 is what I was after. I was like I can actually make 397 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:28,800 an impact here. Not seeing that nurses don't 398 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:33,200 make impacts because we all know that nurses are vital to the 399 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,600 Health Care System. But I was looking for that next 400 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,500 level. I was like how do I level up you 401 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:41,100 know. Yeah yeah and you know we just 402 00:18:41,300 --> 00:18:44,700 we undervalue what it is that we bring to the table. 403 00:18:44,700 --> 00:18:47,600 We talked about we think about the job that job is being like a 404 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:50,600 sure thing but you can't live in your purpose. 405 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,100 If you feel like you're suffocating you can only fake it 406 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:56,000 for so long and if you're drowning and what you're doing, 407 00:18:56,100 --> 00:18:57,500 that whole reason why you went into her. 408 00:18:57,700 --> 00:18:59,300 Session is not going to be there. 409 00:18:59,300 --> 00:19:02,100 You're not able to serve those people that you want to serve. 410 00:19:02,100 --> 00:19:04,900 Because if you're suffocating, if you're working extremely long 411 00:19:04,900 --> 00:19:06,300 hours, you're seeing way too many patients. 412 00:19:06,300 --> 00:19:08,300 Then do you think you should? And if you're not seeing your 413 00:19:08,300 --> 00:19:11,500 family, I have a firm firm believer that we're not supposed 414 00:19:11,500 --> 00:19:14,200 to work 40 hours a week. I'm a firm believer of it. 415 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,100 And the reason why is one of the biggest things, the Lord tells 416 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:19,400 us to do is to spend time with him. 417 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:22,200 It's when I was working full-time. 418 00:19:22,300 --> 00:19:25,300 I mean, I would get in, I would get in 10 to 20 minutes, most 419 00:19:25,300 --> 00:19:27,100 mornings, and I'm going to tell you every morning. 420 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:29,800 That's Enough. That's not enough time. 421 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,200 In my opinion, in my, I'm not trying to push the other line, 422 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,200 anybody else, but we're built to be social beings, not robots. 423 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,300 We're built to be prophetic, were built to be with family, 424 00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:44,300 were built to be interactional, not just reactional and yeah, 425 00:19:44,300 --> 00:19:47,700 that 40 hours a week, minimum forces us into that. 426 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:49,400 And I don't believe that. That's natural. 427 00:19:49,500 --> 00:19:52,300 I don't believe that it's natural to go running for one 428 00:19:52,300 --> 00:19:54,300 thing. I cannot tell you how much like 429 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:56,000 gosh, my stress is so much better. 430 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:58,100 Now, I'm not running out the door, I have to be there. 88. 431 00:19:58,100 --> 00:20:01,400 Have to be you know back by 1:00 for lunch have to leave by 5:00. 432 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,900 So I can pick up the kid and then I go back. 433 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,800 I'm just even though like I think it's a breastfeeding and 434 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,300 then you were breastfeeding to. So please, please put that in 435 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:10,800 there because you were doing that is I think when they broke 436 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,600 down the hours for full time breastfeeding Mom, it's 437 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:15,800 equivalent to about a 40 hour work week. 438 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,400 So just to keep a baby fed from your breast is actually a 439 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,200 40-hour work week and then just add on working at on the other 440 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,300 child that needs time and attention. 441 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,700 H and oh yeah, yeah, no, it didn't say n. 442 00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:35,100 And it's because we were Milt for Community work is not bad. 443 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:37,800 Work is actually vital to the human soul and The Human 444 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,700 Experience. However, we were really truly 445 00:20:40,700 --> 00:20:45,400 built for community and when you are in that drudge of working 446 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:48,300 focusing on that, you can barely focus in on your patients, 447 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:49,800 right? You're doing a terrible job at 448 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,500 focusing in on your patients because you're worried about 449 00:20:51,500 --> 00:20:54,900 your kid, you got to go to all these little things and then you 450 00:20:54,900 --> 00:20:57,700 go home and you're like, okay, wait, when do I connect with Oh 451 00:20:57,708 --> 00:20:58,900 friends. When do I connect with my 452 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:00,600 husband? What do I connect? 453 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:03,100 Because that connection, and when do I connect with the Lord? 454 00:21:03,100 --> 00:21:05,900 When do I connect with God? Is what we were meant to do. 455 00:21:05,900 --> 00:21:07,300 We were meant to be in connection. 456 00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:11,000 We're about to be in community. And as we fill up our lives with 457 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,500 this quote, unquote, busyness, that is supposed to. 458 00:21:13,700 --> 00:21:15,900 Again, create this life that we want. 459 00:21:15,900 --> 00:21:19,400 We end up actually sacrificing the stuff that is pivotal and 460 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,500 huge to your development as a human and feeling fulfilled at 461 00:21:22,500 --> 00:21:25,000 the end of your life, which is, was, I connecting with those 462 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,000 around me. And so I really believe What you 463 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,100 just said is, absolutely the most pivotal thing because we do 464 00:21:32,100 --> 00:21:37,600 end up neglecting relationships for this life that we end up 465 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,600 looking back and going. I wish I had more time with the 466 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,300 people that I loved and so when you keep that at the Forefront 467 00:21:42,300 --> 00:21:45,300 of your mind and you say, Hey listen, I'm not going to 468 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:50,000 sacrifice, you know, the time. And I'm going to see what I can 469 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,600 do on my own. I think that you begin to set 470 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,200 yourself free to dream, you set yourself free to go. 471 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,500 Well, what would it look like if I could spend more time with my 472 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,200 My kids. What would it look like if when 473 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,400 my husband came home I could be super present and I could be a 474 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,600 wife that was connecting with him and working on our marriage 475 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,700 because it's all connection. It's all about the work that we 476 00:22:08,700 --> 00:22:12,500 do in connecting with people. And then when you go to work and 477 00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:14,900 you have a patient that's sitting in front of you, you 478 00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:16,800 connect with them so much differently. 479 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:21,700 When you do not feel empty on every single plane of your life, 480 00:22:21,700 --> 00:22:24,500 you do look at them in your eyes and you go like, how are you? 481 00:22:24,500 --> 00:22:25,700 And I have patients, tell me that today. 482 00:22:25,700 --> 00:22:27,500 They're like I haven't had a doctor. 483 00:22:27,700 --> 00:22:31,100 Or nurse practitioner talk to me the way that you do and I'm like 484 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:33,900 I literally tell them if I didn't like what I did with my 485 00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:36,400 time in clinical practice, I would not be here. 486 00:22:36,500 --> 00:22:39,900 I enjoy this time with the people that I take care of and 487 00:22:39,900 --> 00:22:44,400 it comes out it uses out of me and I'm like okay I can be fully 488 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:48,000 present in both spaces and that I really feel like even if I 489 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,700 only did two days a week and my lifestyle look different between 490 00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:54,200 you and me. Lord, I feel like that is more 491 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:58,000 fulfilled than having all the other stuff that would be with 492 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,300 full time and be missing out on all the connection piece and 493 00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:02,700 that's what I really want people to hear. 494 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:05,200 Is that I think that's what fills your soul up is the 495 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,900 connection is the community not so much. 496 00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:10,100 The tumor has some stuff that we are made to believe. 497 00:23:10,100 --> 00:23:13,200 We need in order to be happy. Yeah I just got on a really long 498 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:18,800 so box but I just witnessed is completely true. 499 00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:22,200 And the connection my to on it is that here's what's weird 500 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,100 especially as females in medicine not trying just cut out 501 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:27,500 males but females and we get the bolt catch. 502 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:30,300 To of. But now I feel guilty because 503 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:32,300 I'm supposed to be this provider. 504 00:23:32,300 --> 00:23:35,300 I'm supposed to bring home this income, we get this catch my to 505 00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:37,600 of oh you're not with your children all the time, but at 506 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,800 the same time. Oh so you're not working either. 507 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:43,500 Not a certain age or whatever it is and we have this guilt and we 508 00:23:43,500 --> 00:23:45,900 have this identity. I have this huge, it was an 509 00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:49,800 identity trip letting go of the clinic as I still see letting go 510 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,200 of the clinic, I just felt I had so much of my identity wrapped 511 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,300 up in that and I thought, but I'm a provider. 512 00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:57,500 I'm this town's provider, and I still, I guess. 513 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:02,400 So I went to go vote and they miss you and I love your to be 514 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,300 like, I just told him like I miss y'all too like that baby is 515 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:07,100 just so addictive and I'm like, how do we know? 516 00:24:07,100 --> 00:24:09,700 We know we don't understand, you know it is three, women Vic 517 00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:13,000 totally like they love me and I love them and they understand, 518 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,800 you know, but I still feel guilty because the guy was the 519 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,400 first provider they've had this been like here and like 520 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,400 ingrained in the community and everything and it was my dream 521 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,300 is my identity and I loved every bit of it, but it's incredible. 522 00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:28,200 Whenever you start living in a purpose, you haven't Entity that 523 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,700 you don't even know exists until you fully decide to step out 524 00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:34,600 into it. We're talking about that now. 525 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,300 Yeah I think for the listener that's like okay so wait, what 526 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,600 are we talking about identity and guys and thanks for 527 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,000 listening to another episode. The doctor nurse podcast. 528 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,900 Unscripted, I would like to take this time to let you guys know 529 00:24:44,900 --> 00:24:48,300 about the doctor nurse podcast, website on this website. 530 00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:51,000 I have free resources for nurses that are looking to up their 531 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:52,900 career, maybe start a side hustle. 532 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,900 I also have my Etsy shop where I've created really cute 533 00:24:56,900 --> 00:25:00,700 digital, Downloads for nurse practitioners in regards to 534 00:25:00,700 --> 00:25:05,500 life, pregnancy planning, as well as portraits guys. 535 00:25:05,500 --> 00:25:10,400 Check out my resources at the doctor's podcast.com and let's 536 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,600 get back to the ethnicity. And what I'm thinking about is 537 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,200 that that identity looks different for everyone that can 538 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,700 be full-time work for you. If that's what it is, or it can 539 00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:22,800 be for the mom. That's like, listen, I don't 540 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,400 like this feeling of guilt of constantly feeling like, I'm 541 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,600 not, I'm running some And love that they get off on that there. 542 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,300 That's a thing. They're like, I love being 543 00:25:31,300 --> 00:25:33,300 absolutely asked. I love being crazy. 544 00:25:33,300 --> 00:25:34,800 That's what I like. Okay, good, for you. 545 00:25:35,100 --> 00:25:38,600 I knew through quiet reflection that this was not good for my 546 00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,500 soul. It was not good for my heart. 547 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:43,200 And so my purpose and my life looks different. 548 00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:47,400 It doesn't look like me pursuing that with my full energy. 549 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,100 It just doesn't. And so that purpose is different 550 00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:53,900 for everyone based on your capacities, based on your 551 00:25:53,900 --> 00:25:57,500 convictions, based on your principles and your values and 552 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,200 You get to make those decisions for yourself because at the end 553 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,700 of your life. Yes, look back and go. 554 00:26:01,700 --> 00:26:05,800 I moved in these things at all times and whatever came of this. 555 00:26:06,300 --> 00:26:09,300 I chose it and it was not something that I just 556 00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:11,200 robotically move through in life. 557 00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:13,000 I want that for the listener. That's like, okay, what are we 558 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,300 talking about purpose? How do I find my purpose? 559 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:17,200 That's the stuff you have to sit down. 560 00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:19,800 What are my values? What are my convictions? 561 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,700 What are the things that fire me up? 562 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,100 What are the things that I want to look back on my life? 563 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,200 And I'll say, I'll never regret that I did that. 564 00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:29,700 I will never regret that. I That's what I want people to 565 00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:31,500 hear. Love that you, that you share 566 00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:34,500 that because I know way. I mean, I still time to the mom 567 00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:36,900 who wants to work full-time. I do not believe that. 568 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:38,300 There's anything wrong with that. 569 00:26:38,300 --> 00:26:41,000 Believe me, I've sat in that before, and that was me for a 570 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,500 while, and now, it's not me and it's not that I'm like, oh, 571 00:26:43,500 --> 00:26:46,400 rejecting that that? That was bad, 100%. 572 00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,600 It's worse. That's right with your heart and 573 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,900 if you feel that you are just burning both ends, then it's go 574 00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,400 for life, don't go for just go, I promise you. 575 00:26:57,500 --> 00:27:00,600 Jumping off and taking a bet on yourself whether it's on to your 576 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,800 life or not. I do not everybody wants to do 577 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,200 on your life, not everyone wants that and that's totally fine. 578 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,100 But you are the safe bet and it's so funny because like we 579 00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:12,200 say, oh, I'm gonna walk in faith, I'm gonna walk in faith, 580 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,000 but then do we really are you living a liar? 581 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,000 And come on, girl. I said, come on, appreciate it. 582 00:27:19,100 --> 00:27:22,300 Yes, it is the things unseen so no, I didn't. 583 00:27:22,300 --> 00:27:24,500 Absolutely no, and we're took that leap, but you have to know 584 00:27:24,500 --> 00:27:27,400 he is not going to pull your heart in a certain direction and 585 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,600 Just let you fall off the cliff. That is so good. 586 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:35,700 I love that line because I mean it says that, right? 587 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:38,900 And scripture but thinking about the delight yourself in the Lord 588 00:27:38,900 --> 00:27:40,900 for he will give you the desires of your heart. 589 00:27:40,900 --> 00:27:43,200 So it's just the lighting. What does that look like? 590 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,000 It looks like connecting with the Lord. 591 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,700 It looks like in relationship with him and then being able to 592 00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:49,500 go. All right. 593 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,900 What is my heart pulling me towards and just know that like 594 00:27:52,900 --> 00:27:54,400 God is going to fulfill those desires. 595 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,700 You're going to be, okay? And again, going back to the 596 00:27:56,700 --> 00:27:59,000 story of Is that you were describing where he talks about. 597 00:27:59,008 --> 00:28:02,200 He was not very eloquent speaker, and I was just like, 598 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,200 I'm going to use you and your he's like, excuse me, um, mess. 599 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,800 I am not the guy for the job. You can definitely get somebody 600 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:09,200 else. That's that imposter syndrome, 601 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,200 right? And so, what did he do? 602 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,800 He provided errand for him to help him. 603 00:28:13,900 --> 00:28:15,300 So it's like any writer my helper. 604 00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:17,600 He didn't just leave him there and just go like yeah, you're 605 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,000 not so great at this but it's fine. 606 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,800 He's like, no, I'm going to provide a way to help you get 607 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:22,500 there. So you have just have that faith 608 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:24,800 that you're talking about of are you brought me here? 609 00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:27,600 Now, you got to bring me through and that is something that I 610 00:28:27,608 --> 00:28:30,700 love to do is just remind God of his promises because it's just 611 00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:33,000 like you made this promise. If you make the promise, yeah, 612 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,900 then you got to fulfill its. So that's just resting in those 613 00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:38,800 products. Those promises and resting on 614 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:40,700 that faith. I think that is so encouraging 615 00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:43,300 for the, for the crescendo in this space and just thinking, 616 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:46,300 well, I have faith and it's like, okay, well then prove it, 617 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:49,300 you got to do. If God is calling you to this, 618 00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:51,700 you've got to move because he's going to provide for you. 619 00:28:51,708 --> 00:28:55,300 He's promised to do so, so you can rest on those promises, 620 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:57,400 which I think is exactly really sick. 621 00:28:57,500 --> 00:28:59,900 Matthew, 6:26 member from sparrows. 622 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,600 Yeah, he feeds us. Parents do not going to feed. 623 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,200 Ya. Know, personal just fall from 624 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,500 the sky. Yeah, that's so good, man. 625 00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,700 That's, that's some that's some Bible right there. 626 00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:10,900 For what someone who is wanting it. 627 00:29:10,900 --> 00:29:12,700 I love that. I love dropping little nuggets 628 00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:16,100 like that because it's truth and I just you have to at least for 629 00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:18,100 my life that's the truth that I lean on. 630 00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:21,000 So what would you say? You know, I know you've talked a 631 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,000 lot about Evergreen and that's one of the things I wanted to 632 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,400 touch on a little bit today. I might as well as we were 633 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200 talking in this conversation about The things that your 634 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,900 business. If you can keep that going, you 635 00:29:29,900 --> 00:29:32,500 know, I know you talk all the time about Evergreen products 636 00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:35,600 and how God's been a huge proponent of your business could 637 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,300 you kind of describe it to my listener? 638 00:29:37,300 --> 00:29:39,500 That's like, okay, what is that kind of? 639 00:29:39,500 --> 00:29:43,100 What that is, how to develop it and how to grow it, the thing. 640 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,200 So Evergreen, pretty much means that you can nothing is a people 641 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,300 say this to you. It's not an option to set it and 642 00:29:49,300 --> 00:29:51,100 forget it. Rightly probably heard that. 643 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,800 I mean, it's true to a large degree, right? 644 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,700 It's you said it and I would say, like you said it and then 645 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,400 you guys, I might forget about be kind of tweak it, so that 646 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,900 makes it a better things like, courses, and courses. 647 00:30:01,900 --> 00:30:05,400 I have books, it could be, you could you could be doing 648 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:08,000 affiliate, like, you don't even have to be, it doesn't have to 649 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,100 be your own courses or you're building your own stuff. 650 00:30:10,100 --> 00:30:13,100 It could be affiliate work. What I always tell people is, 651 00:30:13,100 --> 00:30:16,100 you know, finding those Blue Waters, even if it's red water. 652 00:30:16,100 --> 00:30:18,700 So, again, let's explain that a little bit more because that's, 653 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,200 that's lingo or, yeah, Blue Water means that it's not very 654 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,800 competitive. It is, there's not a whole bunch 655 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,400 of like everyone. Like, I mean, I'm not trying to, 656 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:29,100 Breathing down. I used to be a. 657 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,900 I used to be an online wellness coach for a big business. 658 00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:35,100 I probably won't say the name, just because I don't want to be 659 00:30:35,100 --> 00:30:38,100 rude to anybody because I do still love all the products and 660 00:30:38,100 --> 00:30:40,300 stuff, but I don't do that world anymore. 661 00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:43,800 Oh, I lost myself thinking about talking about Blue Waters, blue 662 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,600 water, blue water. So that's like a very that's on. 663 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,600 I mean I don't want to just that's a pretty red water ear 664 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,900 and I mean you can get to a place where you can identify 665 00:30:51,900 --> 00:30:54,600 okay, that person sells this oh that person sells this and it's 666 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,700 like instant torque and like brakes on it. 667 00:30:56,700 --> 00:31:00,700 The Kuna I'm gonna speak. Yeah, yeah, I'm not trying to, I 668 00:31:00,708 --> 00:31:02,800 don't want to, I don't pay it can be done the right way. 669 00:31:02,808 --> 00:31:05,600 I'm not sure if a male but that's water. 670 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,500 Like we see that your name saying, like we see somebody 671 00:31:08,500 --> 00:31:10,100 who's selling those products. Like, that's kind of a red 672 00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:12,500 water, your to kind of. See it going on a blue water. 673 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:15,400 Is it something that's? That's not saturated. 674 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,900 It's something that people need, there's a high need for it. 675 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,300 But there are every one of their dogs selling it here and I'm 676 00:31:22,300 --> 00:31:23,900 saying, gotcha. So you can have those Blue 677 00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:26,600 Waters but you can find a blue water Niche even and Red Waters. 678 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,600 What I mean by that Is like Red Waters. 679 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,600 This really high competition and there's a lot of people doing 680 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,100 it. Therefore it's kind of you know 681 00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:36,000 Cutthroat like but I think where the analogy comes from Android 682 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,800 Waters and it's you know, harder to get more people to compete 683 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,100 against even if there's a high demand. 684 00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:45,600 But if you need yourself out, if you in the right way, people see 685 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,800 me shaking and the wrong way? All the time. 686 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,200 It's not just oh I'm a dog Mom. I'm a boy Mom. 687 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,200 That's not Nation nation is what is the specific problem that 688 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,300 needs to be solved? That is not being addressed. 689 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,500 And that's where we think that we have this illusion and I'm 690 00:32:01,500 --> 00:32:04,300 not going to another conspiracy Road on your anything, but I 691 00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:06,700 feel like there's this illusion that having a job is like the 692 00:32:06,700 --> 00:32:08,900 secure thing. When it's really not your 693 00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:11,700 betting on that CEO, whoever you work for knows how to run their 694 00:32:11,700 --> 00:32:15,300 business, whether it's a hospital in law's, a ions, the 695 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:18,700 thing about it is, if you're always finding, you could find 696 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,800 you have, everyone here has a world wide web. 697 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:24,500 You can do your research, find out where that need has that. 698 00:32:24,500 --> 00:32:26,600 It's not provided. You will never go broke. 699 00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:28,300 Well, you can always Find something. 700 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,000 And then by Evergreen we mean that you had set up if you don't 701 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,100 have to ever message them. Like back when I was an emblem 702 00:32:34,100 --> 00:32:37,800 world, I would message somebody and I tell my product, I would 703 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,700 do the whole thing in the whole skit and everything. 704 00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:43,700 And I have to know I really did it because I had a huge passion 705 00:32:43,700 --> 00:32:45,800 for well, health Wellness. I honest to goodness, did I 706 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,600 really wanted? That was my deep. 707 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,500 My dissertation was over this like helping people make changes 708 00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:52,200 in health, it like that was my passion. 709 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,300 There is no doubt that I was passionate about was doing a 710 00:32:54,300 --> 00:32:57,300 love, what I did. And I 100% believed in changing 711 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,400 Lies and my girls that I'd help that timer still on their health 712 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,200 Journey because of that, but I'd have to message them and it took 713 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,500 a lot of time. It took time away from my 714 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:07,200 family. It took, you know, me being 715 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,900 stuck in my phone, looking down at my phone the whole time and 716 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:13,300 Evergreen means that somebody can get help from you, and, of 717 00:33:13,308 --> 00:33:16,100 course, or they can do it just by they search, they find it. 718 00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:19,600 And then they, they enroll themselves, but the enrollment 719 00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,400 part is where, you know, we could also have a whole nother 720 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,700 conversation because it's, you know, getting that conversion is 721 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,000 sometimes not just as easy as setting it up. 722 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,100 And just It's happening like magic. 723 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,500 Did I describe that? Well or did I get way too many 724 00:33:32,500 --> 00:33:34,300 different orders? You said no. 725 00:33:34,300 --> 00:33:35,700 No, no, you're good but you didn't. 726 00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:38,600 So I'll just summarize because I think maybe for some of those 727 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,500 like a weights, what's going on. So basically Evergreen is 728 00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:45,100 creating products that people can find and purchase and you 729 00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:48,600 don't necessarily have to go here's my stuff let me try to 730 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,900 coach you through it let me try but there might be a level of 731 00:33:51,908 --> 00:33:54,200 consultation you might have to have someone like it. 732 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,900 I'll hop on a call with you to talk and if they want to ask 733 00:33:56,900 --> 00:34:00,000 questions About again, depending on how the price, the price of 734 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,100 the product, right? Yeah. 735 00:34:01,100 --> 00:34:02,500 Usually depends on The Price is, Right? 736 00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:03,200 Yeah. Yeah. 737 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,200 I think I know where course out there. 738 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,600 I was to say, if you were twenty dollar course out there, you're 739 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,800 not hopping on calls, you just by the corresponding box or you 740 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,800 don't. But if you're asking someone to 741 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:14,500 pay you three thousand dollars for a course, and you might want 742 00:34:14,500 --> 00:34:16,500 to go ahead and hop on a call because people are going to be a 743 00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:19,300 little more apprehensive to hand over that amount of money. 744 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:24,600 So again, Evergreen is just creating things that courses 745 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:29,500 books things that don't necessarily Why're you to 746 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,800 promote that people could find and that you can easily sell 747 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,100 with the click of a button. And then also to, now you've 748 00:34:36,100 --> 00:34:38,800 got, you know, income. And so, another thing that I was 749 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,900 thinking, when you were talking was like, an Etsy Shop, Right? 750 00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:43,100 Creating digital products at something that my girlfriend and 751 00:34:43,100 --> 00:34:46,500 I have been getting into recently, because again, we 752 00:34:46,500 --> 00:34:50,000 don't necessarily want to make a ton of stuff, we don't want to 753 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,600 spend a ton of time outside of our families. 754 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,300 And so we're like What can we create digital products that 755 00:34:55,300 --> 00:34:57,200 people can just click and download? 756 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,400 And that's just kind of that same process, go home. 757 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,100 And it's it get like, gives you that freedom because I remember 758 00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:05,200 the first time we were on like a little mini vacation and the 759 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,500 city, like just it wasn't vacation all we like, we live in 760 00:35:08,500 --> 00:35:10,400 a small town. We went into the City and like 761 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,900 stayed in a hotel. It wasn't a vacation at all, but 762 00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:14,800 we're just kind of Outlet. Just getting out of town for a 763 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,200 little bit, I guess I should say and I woke up and the first time 764 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,500 I had $300 deposit in my bank account, I was like, why? 765 00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:21,800 It's I didn't do anything like, what? 766 00:35:21,900 --> 00:35:23,600 Yeah, I do. Like I said it up, right? 767 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,700 But then it repeats anything but then it repeats, you know. 768 00:35:26,700 --> 00:35:30,300 So it's like it's So, it's a friend and work of, however, 769 00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:34,500 like that specific, that specific product to me about two 770 00:35:34,500 --> 00:35:37,700 weeks to build out. And then, but then after that, 771 00:35:37,700 --> 00:35:40,100 it's Evergreen, right? Like it's out there and people 772 00:35:40,100 --> 00:35:42,700 can purchase it. And, and they can just, they can 773 00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:45,600 enroll themselves and that's where, you know, like you can 774 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,200 get the passive income and that's why you can. 775 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:53,500 It's just weird. It's there's so much out there 776 00:35:53,500 --> 00:35:56,500 and the medical Minds every single medical mind listening to 777 00:35:56,500 --> 00:35:58,700 this year. A cool mind is a gold mind. 778 00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:02,000 You have things that people want, even if you're like, 779 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,100 sitting there like Moses saying I can't do this, I can't do 780 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:05,800 this. Yes, you can, yes, you can. 781 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,300 As a matter of fact, the Lord uses he loves to use the 782 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:11,000 underdog but that's his things. If you feel like an underdog 783 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,700 awesome you have another Edge and and talk on top of being a 784 00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:19,800 nurse or a practitioner and it's literally just you can just you 785 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,700 can go anywhere with it that you want and you can you can 786 00:36:22,700 --> 00:36:25,500 literally live out a passion and helping people and like you're 787 00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:28,500 saying like sometimes, you know, Times you might jump on a call, 788 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:31,200 but even if you jump on a call with somebody, it's just like a 789 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,400 little bit of your time. And usually that's like the 2500 790 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,300 if you want to get down to fuel, the 2500 up, Mark, somewhere in 791 00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:39,300 that range, then you'll you might jump on a call or 792 00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:41,800 something like that, but then, even then your courses can still 793 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,800 be Evergreen. They can still just be, you 794 00:36:43,808 --> 00:36:45,900 know, people people just purchase it yeah. 795 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,000 Yeah. You know, like a week. 796 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,600 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. 797 00:36:49,700 --> 00:36:52,000 That's really, really cool. And I think one of the things 798 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,600 about those different Arenas is just making sure that you're 799 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,200 known, right? So, That's really where the 800 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,100 marketing and the other aspects of business. 801 00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:04,100 I think, become a little bit more cumbersome for the nurse 802 00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:06,700 because we just don't have that that experience in our training. 803 00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:09,000 We don't get trained on how to Market ourselves at how sell 804 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,900 business and things like that. And so if you could give one 805 00:37:11,900 --> 00:37:15,400 hack to a nurse that's like okay, so what if I create 806 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,000 something? So how do I Market it? 807 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,400 How do I get my name out there? How do I tell people about my 808 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,300 business? What would be something that you 809 00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:24,300 would say? This marketing hack works every 810 00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:27,200 time excuse me this marketing hack works. 811 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,600 Time and I would never give it up. 812 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:34,300 I don't see her a marketing hack that were genuine lift like copy 813 00:37:34,300 --> 00:37:36,800 or so. I'm talking like in order for 814 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,500 people to know that you're out there because not every no one 815 00:37:39,500 --> 00:37:42,700 knows that Senator Pryor is out here doing this with a podcast. 816 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,500 And so I create a real and I spit it out and I put out reels 817 00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:47,400 and people are like, this was a podcast. 818 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,800 What is this like that part of having people? 819 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,000 Find your product? So find, your course, you've had 820 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,200 to Market to a certain extent, right? 821 00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:58,200 Sighs. Get some people to see. 822 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,000 I got you. What is something that you've 823 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,200 done throughout your business? That you've noticed is really 824 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,300 helpful, and just like this one, this one works, this happen, 825 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:07,200 Okay? So, it's like, because not every 826 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,400 copy works for every sales PayPal's, I got the number one 827 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,700 thing is to First, do your research. 828 00:38:14,700 --> 00:38:17,000 So I always tell my people pick three things that you're really 829 00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:18,800 passionate about like three things. 830 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,200 Most of us are most of us have multi passion, right? 831 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,600 If you only have one thing that even called to do well then go 832 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:25,300 for that. Right? 833 00:38:25,300 --> 00:38:26,800 And figure out how to angle it. Right. 834 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,700 But Pick three things you're passionate about. 835 00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:31,200 Do your research, do your research. 836 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:35,200 It's not always about, like, as far as yes, there are Miracles 837 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,000 that just people have, like, nothing. 838 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,300 I built was because I'm just so incredible. 839 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:42,100 And I just have this like, amazing, you know, whatever 840 00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:43,500 about me? No, it's because I did my 841 00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,800 research first, and I found that people wanted this, they needed 842 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,400 it. Granted the first time I did, my 843 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,300 research was on accident. People just literally, like, 844 00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:55,900 told me help me with this to, you know, but that wasn't, that 845 00:38:55,900 --> 00:39:00,300 was my first like, If you find, if you find out how to solve 846 00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:03,400 problems for people, you will never go broke because you 847 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,300 people want their problem solved. 848 00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:07,300 They want that, that is a value to them. 849 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,300 So do your research, this is probably as here. 850 00:39:10,300 --> 00:39:12,800 I'm trying to, I don't be too technical is almost creepy way 851 00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,600 cuz it's really simple, but it can be. 852 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,000 So a rest is one way that you can do your own research. 853 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,800 I'll maybe I'll give a few ways, you can kind of do your own 854 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,400 research. One is a rafts. 855 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,700 So that's an online that shows like what are people searching 856 00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:26,800 for and where's the competition there? 857 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,500 And it, Gives you those numbers. Yeah, now there's a little bit 858 00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:34,000 more to it but that is an awesome starting point for 859 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,000 anybody. And then you can say, okay, I'm 860 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,500 really passionate. These are the three things. 861 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:38,700 I really want change lives with that. 862 00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:40,900 I know that I'm called to help with most of us have more than 863 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,900 more than one. Most of us have a hard time 864 00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:46,100 narrowing down a three so but which one of those doesn't have 865 00:39:46,100 --> 00:39:48,100 a lot of competition. And then you can get traction 866 00:39:48,100 --> 00:39:51,000 going. Once you get traction, stay in 867 00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,600 that lane, don't back down, don't do it one time. 868 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,000 And then say okay I tried it didn't work, don't do that 869 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,000 because That's what that is. Why? 870 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:02,400 If you're the person that just stays with it you'll be 871 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,400 successful because most people do most people. 872 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,200 Unfortunately most people try it for living. 873 00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,800 Like I didn't didn't work. I'm like you literally made one 874 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,600 post. Nobody answered anything, that's 875 00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,500 not trying it. You've got to stick with it for 876 00:40:14,500 --> 00:40:17,000 a minute, right. But you find out what are people 877 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,200 searching for in? There's not a lot of, there's 878 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,500 not a lot of things there and then find the platform that you 879 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:24,200 want to work on. I'm actually not, I do Instagram 880 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,600 now because I don't know. It keeps me motivated. 881 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,100 Staying connected. With that community and I kind 882 00:40:29,100 --> 00:40:31,400 of have room to like it. I honest to goodness did not 883 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,800 like social media at all. When I first started, I only 884 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,000 started because I heard that. That's how you need to start a 885 00:40:37,008 --> 00:40:39,500 business. I don't even recommend social 886 00:40:39,500 --> 00:40:41,700 media or reels anymore, that's a flash in the pan. 887 00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:45,500 And it's gone, you know, there are podcast or actually 888 00:40:45,500 --> 00:40:49,300 fantastic due to Fantastic. Google and YouTube are the 889 00:40:49,300 --> 00:40:51,400 biggest search engines out there. 890 00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:55,700 You can build that information, give quality of information to 891 00:40:55,700 --> 00:41:00,100 people share to their Them what they need to know and what they 892 00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:01,600 are. Like the things that they're 893 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,800 needing, give them something that is a quick win for them and 894 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,100 nurture the credit of your people, it just nurture the crud 895 00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:09,900 out of your people over the liver, always over deliver. 896 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,300 Yeah, those are all really, really good hacks. 897 00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:13,700 Thank you, for sharing that Lauren. 898 00:41:13,700 --> 00:41:18,300 Those are awesome. So for the last question of the 899 00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:21,000 interview is for a nurse at starting of thinking your own 900 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,100 business, what would think about starting his or her own own 901 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:26,200 business? What would you want them to know 902 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,200 before they start? That this is something that you 903 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,300 need to hold on to as you're about to Embark in this 904 00:41:32,300 --> 00:41:35,000 endeavor. Keep the long-term Vision 905 00:41:35,300 --> 00:41:38,500 intact, it's so easy. Like I said we all have those 906 00:41:38,500 --> 00:41:40,900 like those moments of I can do this. 907 00:41:40,900 --> 00:41:43,100 I'm going to do is I'm so excited and then it doesn't work 908 00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:45,500 out exactly right the first time so we just kind of lose Faith. 909 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:48,700 Keep the long-term Vision. Every little thing that you do I 910 00:41:48,707 --> 00:41:51,400 like keeping a mindset that every time I built something 911 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,600 that's why I switched to Evergreen another part of that 912 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,300 was because in the MLM world and I constantly doing Facebook 913 00:41:56,300 --> 00:41:59,600 posts and Graham post and keeping up like, I hardly ever 914 00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,400 posed on those platforms anymore because it it just it's gone 915 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:03,900 there and it's gone. Yeah. 916 00:42:03,900 --> 00:42:07,300 And I love building things that like I built this one thing out, 917 00:42:07,300 --> 00:42:09,900 you know, like a video or something that's a quality 918 00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:12,900 people can search for it and find it and I keep on 919 00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:15,300 consistently getting traffic. You build it. 920 00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,700 And then you build another one. And then you build another one, 921 00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,000 it's going to get stronger with time, even if you don't see, 922 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,100 like the full thing going, like, you don't see tons of traction 923 00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:27,200 right off the bat, keep your faith and just keep on walking. 924 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,600 Fucking keep on walking away. So that brings me to another 925 00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:32,000 thing. Honestly that I would probably 926 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,100 say, is that difference on, am I forcing something or am I being 927 00:42:35,100 --> 00:42:38,000 called to do this? If you still have that passion, 928 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:41,100 if it still feels like this is hard but I know that I'm in the 929 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,000 right place. Stay with it. 930 00:42:43,300 --> 00:42:46,300 The feel like you're chasing your tail and it feels like it 931 00:42:46,300 --> 00:42:49,500 feels like it's not like I'm forcing something like somehow 932 00:42:49,500 --> 00:42:52,600 I'm forcing this this doesn't feel right then you know, adjust 933 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:56,000 a little bit and I'm not a fan of some people that's why I left 934 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,500 them on world. I saw a lot of people People 935 00:42:57,500 --> 00:43:00,600 being stuck in that and being encouraged to stay stuck there 936 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,800 because it's better for somebody else and sick. 937 00:43:03,900 --> 00:43:06,700 Yeah, that's actually it is it really is and I, you know, I 938 00:43:07,100 --> 00:43:09,800 hate, you know, I said I don't want to talk anybody or anything 939 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,100 but that I saw that. So you don't know that have that 940 00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:15,100 internal knowing that we can, we talked about, you know, we 941 00:43:15,107 --> 00:43:18,100 talked about a lot on this on this podcast and if you feel 942 00:43:18,100 --> 00:43:22,900 that then you know, that that Wheels spinning stuck thing, 943 00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:25,000 then it's you need to adjust. You need to get traction 944 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,600 somehow, you need to readjust It's don't give up and just know 945 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,500 that like every single thing that you grow and you do is 946 00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,300 going to make you stronger for the next. 947 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,400 It absolutely. Even though like an emblem 948 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,700 world, I squash that business. I said, I have nothing to do 949 00:43:38,700 --> 00:43:41,300 with this anymore. I had like pretty good amount of 950 00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:43,000 residual income from that. I just washed it. 951 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:44,500 I was like, this is wrecking my life. 952 00:43:44,500 --> 00:43:48,300 I threw it away and but I still learned a lot from that even 953 00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:51,400 though, like that didn't you? And I'm saying, like I learned a 954 00:43:51,408 --> 00:43:54,700 lot of value from that and it allowed me to go forward in the 955 00:43:54,707 --> 00:43:57,900 next thing and even stronger. So look at The long-term 956 00:43:57,900 --> 00:43:59,800 picture. Even if it feels like it's 957 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:04,900 really hard right now, you are making progress way more than 958 00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:06,000 what it feels like in the moment. 959 00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:08,000 Don't live in the moment. That's emotional reasoning. 960 00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,100 So one of the things that help you the cognitive therapy. 961 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,300 That's emotional reasoning. You know you have to step back 962 00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:16,700 and look at look at the big picture and we all have a good. 963 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,700 Yeah, that's really good. Laura did for the last part of 964 00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:22,800 the podcast. It's the rapid fire questions 965 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,200 where I just asked you like, are you ready? 966 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,000 Just just fly by the seat of your pants are You ready? 967 00:44:28,300 --> 00:44:31,200 I'm ready. All right, let's do it if I like 968 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:32,300 this. I don't know why I love this 969 00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:33,200 question. I'm totally hitting it. 970 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,400 Hard these days. What if you could pick a 971 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:37,900 character to play you on television or an actress to be 972 00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:39,400 playing on TV? What would you? 973 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,500 Who would you choose? Probably Sandra Bullock's. 974 00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:46,200 That's the only name I can think of, I love her because she's so 975 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:47,900 great. This she is really awesome. 976 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,800 I'm not a big movie buff to be totally honest. 977 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,100 Like, I'm totally that loser, that everyone's like telling 978 00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:55,300 jokes about this. You know, I can talk to you 979 00:44:55,300 --> 00:44:58,700 about about like Anchorman But that's one of the only biggest I 980 00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:01,200 used to be a huge dinner bullet fan. 981 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:05,600 So way back when I did watch TV. So, yeah, that's funny. 982 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,200 Yeah, yeah. She is awesome. 983 00:45:07,500 --> 00:45:09,900 And then, what would you what do you say when you answer the 984 00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:11,600 phone? Like, what's your like thing? 985 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,300 You're like, pick up the phone. What do you say? 986 00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:17,000 I just say this is Lauren, or it's a number that I don't know, 987 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,300 and I think it might be a marketer. 988 00:45:18,300 --> 00:45:21,300 Hello, active. Because that gives them the 989 00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:23,400 straight little. In think, it's hundreds of 990 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,600 people call me. I don't know who they are. 991 00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:30,300 Are they give up? Yeah, this is Lauren. 992 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:35,200 So if you could give one book to someone to read, which would it 993 00:45:35,207 --> 00:45:39,800 be one book? I could totally put a plug in 994 00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:43,000 and say, my book, I'm kidding. I'm not the Bible 100%. 995 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:44,300 I don't even believe. I had to like stop and think 996 00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:46,900 about that for a second. $100. I thought I was gonna come out 997 00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:51,400 like that. Yeah, I was like, oh yeah, and I 998 00:45:51,408 --> 00:45:56,900 didn't even see my life is 100%, the most life-changing thing in 999 00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:57,600 my life. Life. 1000 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,300 I mean it took me it was my first step in being like 1001 00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:02,300 completely eaten alive with anxiety. 1002 00:46:02,500 --> 00:46:07,000 And if you follow the Bible, okay, we don't have enough time. 1003 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,100 We do not have any time left so I'm not going to go into the 1004 00:46:09,700 --> 00:46:13,200 everything, everything that we teach that is like, good 1005 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,500 information knowledge. It's already been said in the 1006 00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:16,800 Bible. Amen. 1007 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,900 It already had like it already has, and it's hard for us for 1008 00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:23,000 our human Minds. Sometimes to see the multi 1009 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,500 dimension of the Bible, in the Lord's, the Lord has 1010 00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:29,100 multi-dimensional Vision, like he Is every angle we only see 1011 00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:30,500 the three dimension was in front of us. 1012 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,100 There is so much more to even the life that you have the 1013 00:46:34,107 --> 00:46:37,300 present where you're sitting right now that you cannot see 1014 00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:39,900 the Lord can see it. He has seen it and he's given it 1015 00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:43,500 to us in that in that book. Yeah, yeah, I love it. 1016 00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:46,300 Yeah, I could go on that and I love it. 1017 00:46:46,300 --> 00:46:47,500 I love what you're saying right there. 1018 00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:50,400 And again one of the things I was going to say was there are 1019 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:55,500 31 chapters in Proverbs and it is a book on wisdom. 1020 00:46:55,500 --> 00:47:00,000 And so what I love so much about that is that there are 31 days 1021 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,700 in most months. And so Jesus literally put 31 1022 00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:07,400 days of wisdom that even I just read sometimes just a proverb a 1023 00:47:07,408 --> 00:47:11,600 day and I just picked the day so the 14th of November, I just 1024 00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:15,100 read Proverbs 14 and I'll just read through that wisdom and 1025 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,700 it's always something that I walk away with and I'm like, 1026 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:21,500 I've read this a hundred times. And today I just this part, 1027 00:47:21,500 --> 00:47:24,800 stood out to me. And so again, I deal with you is 1028 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:27,100 the most. Yeah, it is the best. 1029 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,300 Gift. You can give someone is the 1030 00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:32,500 truth of the Bible and the truth of God's word. 1031 00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:37,600 And yeah, it's people repackage it, repackage his words and sell 1032 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,100 them and they like to make it sound novel and it's just not, 1033 00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:43,500 he's just been, he's been a pretty steady message from the 1034 00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:46,800 beginning. So I 100% agree very good, what 1035 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:48,900 more and where can people find you if they're looking? 1036 00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:50,900 Hey, I know, I want to see what she's offering. 1037 00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:53,100 I went to see her functional, medicine course, that's 1038 00:47:53,100 --> 00:47:55,200 accredited. My people can get CMEs from it. 1039 00:47:55,200 --> 00:48:01,400 Correct 48 Hours of samcro Yeah, but I'm aware of that. 1040 00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:02,700 You can get contact hours through it. 1041 00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:04,400 Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. 1042 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:08,500 And also with me and you yes if you want to reach out and chat 1043 00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:13,000 with me it is me it is not you know some other like random 1044 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,100 person that I've hired on Instagram, it's me, you can 1045 00:48:16,100 --> 00:48:18,400 always reach out to me at Dr. Dot Lauren. 1046 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,600 Dnp and you can also, like, in that link but also, you can go 1047 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,200 to what it actually is a bitly link. 1048 00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:26,800 Yes, I'll put it in the show notes. 1049 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,700 You get it. Yeah, I think it's I think it's 1050 00:48:28,700 --> 00:48:31,900 bit.ly live, the free life freebies. 1051 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,100 I think that's what it is. But yeah, we can add to the show 1052 00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:37,400 notes and then they can get, they can get tons of free stuff 1053 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,600 and I don't ever spam anybody. One of my biggest pet peeves and 1054 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:46,000 life is getting tons of emails. I hate, I hate I don't like 1055 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,800 using that word. I very strongly dislike tons of 1056 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:49,800 emails. I don't understand me or 1057 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,200 anything like that. Yeah, but yep. 1058 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:57,000 Yeah, bit.ly forward, slash live the free life freebies and that 1059 00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,500 show Okay, that should also get something. 1060 00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:00,300 Perfect. 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