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shared with other nurses and nurse practitioners.
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Welcome to another episode of the doctors podcast today, I
have on Loranger. Oh, did I say that?
Roy, Roy Roy. And she is the owner CEO lady in
charge of nurse practice that she started in 2021 after
hitting rock bottom. And nursing and she was a
full-time nurse practitioner. She's got a bunch of really cool
horses for people to check out time.
Hack Warrior energy, rock star. She's got a lot of things that I
know she can help people become more efficient at managing their
practice and helping you create. Side hustles as well and I'm
just really happy to have her on today to talk about in courses
Evergreen platforms, things of that nature because it guys this
podcast, I really want to start focusing in on helping you guys
develop that stuff for yourselves.
And so trying to get on people on the podcast to talk about
these things are our priority. So, first off, welcome Lauren, I
can't wait to hear about everything.
You're in Vin and share everything that you've got going
off book. So thank you, sister.
I'm so excited to be here. Is love you so much because
relief, We always have fun together.
I've kind of talked a little bit about some of the stuff that
you've been involved in and what you created.
I think it'd be cool if you just described how you see your role
and what it is that you do day to day.
Alright great. Well so my story started out
probably it really started when I was in nursing school and I've
shared this before but I kind of I was are not nursing school but
nurse practitioners and as an ICU nurse and I really felt kind
of had it all figured out and I was excited about becoming a doc
and pee he and I was an ICU nurse really proud of that and I
had like a Swanky Cadillac Coupe car and I thought you gonna quit
listening to music, I'm more of a sophisticated person now.
So the people like like Robert Kiyosaki, is that kind of stuff
and figure out where you put all this money because I'm just so
you know so after yeah yeah and it hit me like a ton of bricks
but he explains that being tied to all those school loans and
being tied to an hourly job really limits you.
And I just thought, oh my gosh, he's so right.
So first of all quit, living that way, I downsized right
after I got out, I had a really beautiful house and then I
actually down sighs. It's funny because the banks are
even like, are you going through a bankruptcy?
Because this house is worth last.
Nobody goes down to a smaller house for no reason.
I'm like, no, it's because I want to be more conservative and
got into a more practical vehicle.
I changed the way. I did those things but I knew
that something else had happened.
But once I ran into becoming a, to go over a practice and I ran
this family practice. It was owned by a hospital, but
I was literally early, the only provider and office right out
the door. First day, it was 18, 20
patients a day and they wanted me to grow the practice from
there. I was pregnant my baby boy.
My first baby boy Gage and I realized real quick that went
into nurse practitioner because I had this illusion that it was
going to be more of a balance in life then a physician than an
MD, D 0, and I realized really quickly that was not the case.
And I was stressed, I honestly felt I had been taken advantage
of in some way because Has went into this higher degree.
So I could have a better quality of life and I found out really
fast. I missed being a nurse in the
ICU and are you had it in the time that I was working over,
what I did, as a nurse, it wasn't any more page unless I
can think of better. You're making less.
Yeah, I hit burn up really fast and I legitimately thought I
never. Would I remember like, you know,
following dots who are really burnt out and kind of bitter,
even towards our patient and thought off, they just went into
it for the money and that's why I'm not in this for the money.
I'm in it for the to take care of people, so I'm I'm not going
to burn out and whenever you sacrifice everything like your
family, and my son, I hardly saw him and that's where the covid.
It got really bad as already working 50 hours a week and then
with covid I was working like 60 hours a week and I literally
just broke down had a near breakdown.
I remember, just tears coming down my face, my husband, and I
went on a vacation, I would probably shouldn't have done it,
but I knew everything was starting to probably shut down
was like, we got to go somewhere.
So, literally that next week we went to Cabo like I just need to
get away. Tears streaming down my face
because I knew what I was coming back to and fast forward.
I had my son at home and he was older, and he already didn't see
me and I knew that things are about to get so much worse.
And there was this little girl, these red pigtails and she was
looking at me and pointing to her mom, like she's crying.
She's crying, you know, and I were just thinking I look like a
crazy person. We're going back to the airport
from the hotel and I was just crying, I totally broke down.
My marriage was in near shambles, we went through a very
near divorce. Early days away from standing in
front of the judge. And I hardly saw my son and I
just decided that instead of completely breaking down which I
did, I did for a little bit. Is that just completely
decomposing? I decided to decompress figure
out. How can I make this better?
How can I make my life more manageable?
Because running this clinic by myself?
I was just losing it and I figured out how to.
And I started thinking I was like, you know what, there are
people, who are billionaires, who run, huge, huge companies,
they do way more than I do. I need to start thinking the
It's goes, smarter not harder. Yeah, and that's whenever all my
time hacking came into place and that's whenever I started to the
memory optimized and that was kind of the beginning of things.
In the back of my head, I knew that I wanted to build things
that were Evergreen, they knew that that was a thing.
For whenever I heard Robert Kiyosaki, say you could build
passive income make it while you're not there.
Yeah. You don't have to be in office
to make money because I were trading money in office.
Yeah, okay, exactly. Yeah.
But I didn't know how to even get to where I could start doing
that because life just went crazy.
Easy soon, as I graduated my dnp.
So, I decide it's time. It's literally Now or Never.
I am just going to give up everything or I'm going to just
figure this out. So I started figuring how to
learn faster, how to read faster, how to memorize things,
how to be able to get through charts faster, change my
conversations where I could talk to somebody like pivot that
conversation in a way. They feel heard so I could come
and get to the next person. I learned how to be more in tune
with myself. A lot of what I teach is not
just time hacks. It's also because Learned.
It's also sing in tune with yourself and the difference even
just like brain waves that we can go into and meditation and
kind of staying in a different state so you can help with
anxiety. The less your anxiety is the
better. You can think the more you're
going to get done and it just, it's not just a one thing that
can fix everything. So, I did that and I started to
get home on time and my colleagues and we can all see
above used to, I don't work there anymore but you can see it
who had Many patients and that kind of stuff and we talk and
say how late were saying were stuff like that.
And so I started to get home on time even after covid went up,
you know during that time right before I decide time I was
working 60 hours a week and the case law got bigger because we
were doing the office. But then we are also doing their
floating acid, I see you. So after all that my colleague
started noticing this Rascal, what are you doing?
And I was like, okay so I started sharing and then that's
kind of how my he lured home program got brought and then
people wanted to know, Okay so because then I was like okay
cool, I started doing that. I started turning into Evergreen
passive income and then if you want to know how do you do that?
So then I started building that out for them and teaching them
and that's really how it kind of grew.
And then I started nurse practitioners.
Just coaching other women and getting time hacked.
But then also one of the best ways that you can time hack is
to hire out for the things that doesn't pay you back.
So I start hiring for laundry and dishes and that type of
thing. So I started helping my people
without like, teaching them how to build Poseidon comes like
that that are passive Evergreen systems and then I was just
having a meeting with my girls one time and I was telling him
how also going to be in this patient.
You know, I was still working and the in primary practice and
I said well it's one patient that I'm treating you know,
functional because they don't they don't like medicine at all.
You do functional medicine and like yeah, I've done it forever
like 440 of the time that I've practiced.
I was really surprised that people in roll, Oklahoma,
actually wanted it. So I can't be done kinds of
courses throughout so then that's how my functional
medicine. Scheme box difficulty.
Chasm like okay I will so everything that I've you know,
built has just been because other people were saying we need
this. We want it.
So that's just how at all. Yeah in a very short that's
y'all kind of tree hired so that's really really cool.
You said one of the things that I see reverberating in all these
entrepreneurs and there's entrepreneurs is that they are
creating the solutions for other people's problems.
And so as people are coming to you and just saying hey this is
a niche, this is a whole, this is a gap, this is something that
needs. To be filled you stepping in and
filling that Gap creates passive income for you.
Especially if you're able to develop courses and these types
of things that then you can go ahead and let that just continue
to make money on its own, which is one of the things that I've
really wanted with the podcast is to provide opportunities to
give nurses a business mindset to give us the mindset of how
can I create something from what?
I know already helped adjunct and support my nursing salary so
that I can then determine how I want to live my life.
Right? Because, yes, we are only given
one life and to spend all of your life which is something
that all my listeners were like, here she goes again because it's
true just spin your whole life and to miss it so that you can
work. That is not living, that is just
called existing. That's called surviving, that's
not thriving, and that's not what I want for nurses.
I want nurses to hear if you're in that spot where you're on the
brink of divorce. You haven't seen your children,
you are just sitting in Cabo, which is beautiful and you're
stopping. Being we have the there is an
option for you. And so that's really what I want
to bring light on to today. So what would you say is kind of
the hardest part of owning your own business?
And what would you say that? I know that you recently stepped
away from your your nurse practitioner job to stay home
and be more present with your children.
Because again, I think you just kind of learned that was really
not, okay, to not be there for the first one.
I can't do that again. So you made a change.
But I was watching all of your histogram stories as you were
walking through that process, it was Equal to CG that was really
inspiring. So what has been the hardest
part of owning your business and when did you decide again, you
know, you said back in 2828 sounds like that whole pandemic
kind of brought about this business.
When did you decide? Okay, it's time to launch out on
my own and really give my full heart to this.
I think only one ever. So, what's your first question?
The hardest thing about being a nurse printer is really just
holding the belief. I had a lot of self.
Everyone does though every single person that I work With
every single person. I've now worked with some of
the, literally, some famous, as coaches.
And even them, they will tell you that, you literally look
back and feel like that imposter syndrome or, I don't know that
there's no way I can do this, like, I can't do this.
Losing faith, can be kind of in. It's a never ending things,
never in your body. You always have to kind of
reinvent, yourself, and reinvent your mind and know that you can,
which that's biblical, right? The lord always wants us to be
doing that. So that's not something that we
should be shocked by. But just reviewing your mind
that you could Is do this because it doesn't ever go away
that. You feel like I can't do like
it'll be really pumped or really an exciting.
Like I can do this. I go for it and then literally
like you can have I remember like the first time I hit my
first 10K day. The next day I was like wait a
minute I don't know if I can do this.
I don't know if I can do this. I was in the process of
considering two leading my job as a practitioner and I'm like I
don't know if I can do this on my husband's leaving me like do
you see what you're doing right now but I don't know.
I don't know like I don't know that I can so I think that's the
hardest thing. Like just really ensure the
women. Yeah.
I say that very transparently because not because I don't have
faith in my system is not that I don't have belief and what I do,
but I see that across the board. I see everybody feel that way
and especially when you're hitting Milestones, it's really,
really easy to back down and be like, no, no, no, I can't do
this, I can't do this. I'm not the right person.
This is the flute. This is totally employ every
thing. Yeah, yeah.
I think that's the, that's the hardest part ever.
I decided to fully go all in. It was probably after I had.
So I Didn't just do this. I didn't just learn everything
100% alone. I actually I invested in a
coach. Yeah.
And now I share how much it was for the longest time.
I didn't tell my husband, it's really funny because he found
out, because he was like, oh my gosh, we've made like whenever I
first heard my business, but we've made a lot of money from
me. Hit my taxes, you know.
Not a lot, not a lot but we, you know, we make a money.
Yeah. And I was like, yeah, I was
like, I think are going to be okay, though, I think we're
okay. I think that I've spent enough
to write off and he's like, what did you do?
And I'm it's healthy. How much I spent on my business
coach, because it was like, eight thousand dollars and yes,
but that's why I feel so fast because I learned legitimate
tactics that's why I like than three months.
I was saying the 10K and then six, it was 20 and all that it
happened because I invested that was for sure.
The I went all in and you're so whenever I was yeah yeah I'll
myself. Yeah.
And I had to because then I had this huge it was like bigger
than my mortgage payment to pay back because it's not put Aldrin
33-year note. I had to pay it off.
Off and I joke with my coach all the time.
I would say, I have the money to pay you that first month.
But then after that, I was like, I don't know what I'ma Do Is I
sign this contract. Not like, I don't, I don't know
that I can pay it, so it put it back up against a wall.
And I was like, all right, Lauren, every single morning,
woke up. So I was like, I can't do this,
my family. I can't Rob my family of those.
I've got to do the lessons. I've got to implement the things
and that was one of our went all-in, for sure, because I was
terrified. I thought there's no way I'm
here talking. I was like, can you just get me
to match my NP? Come because I can be free of
that time. And she was like, yes.
And I was like, don't know that. I believe you.
I'm gonna give you this money anyhow because otherwise, it
will back out. I was like will you take my
card? And now she's like yeah, like
the easiest sale ever for her, you know.
Cause I was just I was just like, okay, just do it right now
because I will not do it. If we get off this call, I will
not do it. I knew that I wouldn't and I did
and then I literally have instant regret because I was
like, this is a huge investment. We did not have the money, your
enemy. It was like, literally.
I didn't know how I was going to pay it the next month because I
didn't have theirs. A fifteen hundred dollar payment
a month. And I was like, I don't like I
don't just have that sitting around I didn't at that time.
So that was for sure, of me going all in that moment right
there. Yeah, that's an all-in moment.
That's really cool. And again, but I love about that
story is that you just placed the bet on yourself and I think
so many more. Nurses are afraid to bet on
themselves. It's so easy to just go for the
sure thing and to just pay your Penance and row, the boat, and
I'm just going to keep growing and it's fine.
Even though you're getting tired and you're exhausted and you
don't want to row the boat anymore, you're sick of the
boat. It's easier than I'm just going
to take a bet on myself and give it a shot.
I think it's good to hear those stories because when people hear
she was scared and she did it anyway me too.
And that's how, you know, you're living because you're scared and
you're doing it any hundred percent?
Yeah. But if I can say, it's not the
easier thing to stay. I can tell you my life is a lot
easier now, it is the familiar thing and just Like you were
saying that's not the living thing familiar, doesn't mean
living familiar does not mean good, it doesn't mean that you
living in your purpose because I mean even if we look at like
look at like Moses lovely and he's terrified, right?
He was terrified when God was like no do this.
He said no. But I can't, I can't, I don't
speak good. I'm not intelligent.
I'm not this. I'm not that and the Lord
literally got mad at him. It said, like, he burned with
anger at Moses. He's like, man, I'm working
through you, like no, like wit stop this.
Stop this thing. It's not as a repetitive thing
in the Bible. If you look there's tons of
stories with that same kind of thing and it's because we as
humans do that and nurses have such an advantage.
Like we are one of the most respected professions for really
good reason. I have not yet to meet a nurse
who didn't go into it for the heart and for the passion and
wanting to do it, like, you know, going to care for people
as a physician but that's not why you're doing this.
Like you're doing it for being able to help people and change
their lives and to make more of an impact, right?
Like you could write prescriptions at least for me.
Yeah, corrupt. Make a bigger impact.
When you're able to write a prescription, you're able to go
go pick this up or you're able to just do that power of that
pain, right? That's really what I was.
Yes, I was after was just being able to go.
No, I don't have to check. You know.
I don't have to ask a physician. Can you give me an order for
that? Like I would just go like I
don't need to do here. Like we had here, sighing.
So that power and that ability to affect people and change them
is what I was after. I was like I can actually make
an impact here. Not seeing that nurses don't
make impacts because we all know that nurses are vital to the
Health Care System. But I was looking for that next
level. I was like how do I level up you
know. Yeah yeah and you know we just
we undervalue what it is that we bring to the table.
We talked about we think about the job that job is being like a
sure thing but you can't live in your purpose.
If you feel like you're suffocating you can only fake it
for so long and if you're drowning and what you're doing,
that whole reason why you went into her.
Session is not going to be there.
You're not able to serve those people that you want to serve.
Because if you're suffocating, if you're working extremely long
hours, you're seeing way too many patients.
Then do you think you should? And if you're not seeing your
family, I have a firm firm believer that we're not supposed
to work 40 hours a week. I'm a firm believer of it.
And the reason why is one of the biggest things, the Lord tells
us to do is to spend time with him.
It's when I was working full-time.
I mean, I would get in, I would get in 10 to 20 minutes, most
mornings, and I'm going to tell you every morning.
That's Enough. That's not enough time.
In my opinion, in my, I'm not trying to push the other line,
anybody else, but we're built to be social beings, not robots.
We're built to be prophetic, were built to be with family,
were built to be interactional, not just reactional and yeah,
that 40 hours a week, minimum forces us into that.
And I don't believe that. That's natural.
I don't believe that it's natural to go running for one
thing. I cannot tell you how much like
gosh, my stress is so much better.
Now, I'm not running out the door, I have to be there. 88.
Have to be you know back by 1:00 for lunch have to leave by 5:00.
So I can pick up the kid and then I go back.
I'm just even though like I think it's a breastfeeding and
then you were breastfeeding to. So please, please put that in
there because you were doing that is I think when they broke
down the hours for full time breastfeeding Mom, it's
equivalent to about a 40 hour work week.
So just to keep a baby fed from your breast is actually a
40-hour work week and then just add on working at on the other
child that needs time and attention.
H and oh yeah, yeah, no, it didn't say n.
And it's because we were Milt for Community work is not bad.
Work is actually vital to the human soul and The Human
Experience. However, we were really truly
built for community and when you are in that drudge of working
focusing on that, you can barely focus in on your patients,
right? You're doing a terrible job at
focusing in on your patients because you're worried about
your kid, you got to go to all these little things and then you
go home and you're like, okay, wait, when do I connect with Oh
friends. When do I connect with my
husband? What do I connect?
Because that connection, and when do I connect with the Lord?
When do I connect with God? Is what we were meant to do.
We were meant to be in connection.
We're about to be in community. And as we fill up our lives with
this quote, unquote, busyness, that is supposed to.
Again, create this life that we want.
We end up actually sacrificing the stuff that is pivotal and
huge to your development as a human and feeling fulfilled at
the end of your life, which is, was, I connecting with those
around me. And so I really believe What you
just said is, absolutely the most pivotal thing because we do
end up neglecting relationships for this life that we end up
looking back and going. I wish I had more time with the
people that I loved and so when you keep that at the Forefront
of your mind and you say, Hey listen, I'm not going to
sacrifice, you know, the time. And I'm going to see what I can
do on my own. I think that you begin to set
yourself free to dream, you set yourself free to go.
Well, what would it look like if I could spend more time with my
My kids. What would it look like if when
my husband came home I could be super present and I could be a
wife that was connecting with him and working on our marriage
because it's all connection. It's all about the work that we
do in connecting with people. And then when you go to work and
you have a patient that's sitting in front of you, you
connect with them so much differently.
When you do not feel empty on every single plane of your life,
you do look at them in your eyes and you go like, how are you?
And I have patients, tell me that today.
They're like I haven't had a doctor.
Or nurse practitioner talk to me the way that you do and I'm like
I literally tell them if I didn't like what I did with my
time in clinical practice, I would not be here.
I enjoy this time with the people that I take care of and
it comes out it uses out of me and I'm like okay I can be fully
present in both spaces and that I really feel like even if I
only did two days a week and my lifestyle look different between
you and me. Lord, I feel like that is more
fulfilled than having all the other stuff that would be with
full time and be missing out on all the connection piece and
that's what I really want people to hear.
Is that I think that's what fills your soul up is the
connection is the community not so much.
The tumor has some stuff that we are made to believe.
We need in order to be happy. Yeah I just got on a really long
so box but I just witnessed is completely true.
And the connection my to on it is that here's what's weird
especially as females in medicine not trying just cut out
males but females and we get the bolt catch.
To of. But now I feel guilty because
I'm supposed to be this provider.
I'm supposed to bring home this income, we get this catch my to
of oh you're not with your children all the time, but at
the same time. Oh so you're not working either.
Not a certain age or whatever it is and we have this guilt and we
have this identity. I have this huge, it was an
identity trip letting go of the clinic as I still see letting go
of the clinic, I just felt I had so much of my identity wrapped
up in that and I thought, but I'm a provider.
I'm this town's provider, and I still, I guess.
So I went to go vote and they miss you and I love your to be
like, I just told him like I miss y'all too like that baby is
just so addictive and I'm like, how do we know?
We know we don't understand, you know it is three, women Vic
totally like they love me and I love them and they understand,
you know, but I still feel guilty because the guy was the
first provider they've had this been like here and like
ingrained in the community and everything and it was my dream
is my identity and I loved every bit of it, but it's incredible.
Whenever you start living in a purpose, you haven't Entity that
you don't even know exists until you fully decide to step out
into it. We're talking about that now.
Yeah I think for the listener that's like okay so wait, what
are we talking about identity and guys and thanks for
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get back to the ethnicity. And what I'm thinking about is
that that identity looks different for everyone that can
be full-time work for you. If that's what it is, or it can
be for the mom. That's like, listen, I don't
like this feeling of guilt of constantly feeling like, I'm
not, I'm running some And love that they get off on that there.
That's a thing. They're like, I love being
absolutely asked. I love being crazy.
That's what I like. Okay, good, for you.
I knew through quiet reflection that this was not good for my
soul. It was not good for my heart.
And so my purpose and my life looks different.
It doesn't look like me pursuing that with my full energy.
It just doesn't. And so that purpose is different
for everyone based on your capacities, based on your
convictions, based on your principles and your values and
You get to make those decisions for yourself because at the end
of your life. Yes, look back and go.
I moved in these things at all times and whatever came of this.
I chose it and it was not something that I just
robotically move through in life.
I want that for the listener. That's like, okay, what are we
talking about purpose? How do I find my purpose?
That's the stuff you have to sit down.
What are my values? What are my convictions?
What are the things that fire me up?
What are the things that I want to look back on my life?
And I'll say, I'll never regret that I did that.
I will never regret that. I That's what I want people to
hear. Love that you, that you share
that because I know way. I mean, I still time to the mom
who wants to work full-time. I do not believe that.
There's anything wrong with that.
Believe me, I've sat in that before, and that was me for a
while, and now, it's not me and it's not that I'm like, oh,
rejecting that that? That was bad, 100%.
It's worse. That's right with your heart and
if you feel that you are just burning both ends, then it's go
for life, don't go for just go, I promise you.
Jumping off and taking a bet on yourself whether it's on to your
life or not. I do not everybody wants to do
on your life, not everyone wants that and that's totally fine.
But you are the safe bet and it's so funny because like we
say, oh, I'm gonna walk in faith, I'm gonna walk in faith,
but then do we really are you living a liar?
And come on, girl. I said, come on, appreciate it.
Yes, it is the things unseen so no, I didn't.
Absolutely no, and we're took that leap, but you have to know
he is not going to pull your heart in a certain direction and
Just let you fall off the cliff. That is so good.
I love that line because I mean it says that, right?
And scripture but thinking about the delight yourself in the Lord
for he will give you the desires of your heart.
So it's just the lighting. What does that look like?
It looks like connecting with the Lord.
It looks like in relationship with him and then being able to
go. All right.
What is my heart pulling me towards and just know that like
God is going to fulfill those desires.
You're going to be, okay? And again, going back to the
story of Is that you were describing where he talks about.
He was not very eloquent speaker, and I was just like,
I'm going to use you and your he's like, excuse me, um, mess.
I am not the guy for the job. You can definitely get somebody
else. That's that imposter syndrome,
right? And so, what did he do?
He provided errand for him to help him.
So it's like any writer my helper.
He didn't just leave him there and just go like yeah, you're
not so great at this but it's fine.
He's like, no, I'm going to provide a way to help you get
there. So you have just have that faith
that you're talking about of are you brought me here?
Now, you got to bring me through and that is something that I
love to do is just remind God of his promises because it's just
like you made this promise. If you make the promise, yeah,
then you got to fulfill its. So that's just resting in those
products. Those promises and resting on
that faith. I think that is so encouraging
for the, for the crescendo in this space and just thinking,
well, I have faith and it's like, okay, well then prove it,
you got to do. If God is calling you to this,
you've got to move because he's going to provide for you.
He's promised to do so, so you can rest on those promises,
which I think is exactly really sick.
Matthew, 6:26 member from sparrows.
Yeah, he feeds us. Parents do not going to feed.
Ya. Know, personal just fall from
the sky. Yeah, that's so good, man.
That's, that's some that's some Bible right there.
For what someone who is wanting it.
I love that. I love dropping little nuggets
like that because it's truth and I just you have to at least for
my life that's the truth that I lean on.
So what would you say? You know, I know you've talked a
lot about Evergreen and that's one of the things I wanted to
touch on a little bit today. I might as well as we were
talking in this conversation about The things that your
business. If you can keep that going, you
know, I know you talk all the time about Evergreen products
and how God's been a huge proponent of your business could
you kind of describe it to my listener?
That's like, okay, what is that kind of?
What that is, how to develop it and how to grow it, the thing.
So Evergreen, pretty much means that you can nothing is a people
say this to you. It's not an option to set it and
forget it. Rightly probably heard that.
I mean, it's true to a large degree, right?
It's you said it and I would say, like you said it and then
you guys, I might forget about be kind of tweak it, so that
makes it a better things like, courses, and courses.
I have books, it could be, you could you could be doing
affiliate, like, you don't even have to be, it doesn't have to
be your own courses or you're building your own stuff.
It could be affiliate work. What I always tell people is,
you know, finding those Blue Waters, even if it's red water.
So, again, let's explain that a little bit more because that's,
that's lingo or, yeah, Blue Water means that it's not very
competitive. It is, there's not a whole bunch
of like everyone. Like, I mean, I'm not trying to,
Breathing down. I used to be a.
I used to be an online wellness coach for a big business.
I probably won't say the name, just because I don't want to be
rude to anybody because I do still love all the products and
stuff, but I don't do that world anymore.
Oh, I lost myself thinking about talking about Blue Waters, blue
water, blue water. So that's like a very that's on.
I mean I don't want to just that's a pretty red water ear
and I mean you can get to a place where you can identify
okay, that person sells this oh that person sells this and it's
like instant torque and like brakes on it.
The Kuna I'm gonna speak. Yeah, yeah, I'm not trying to, I
don't want to, I don't pay it can be done the right way.
I'm not sure if a male but that's water.
Like we see that your name saying, like we see somebody
who's selling those products. Like, that's kind of a red
water, your to kind of. See it going on a blue water.
Is it something that's? That's not saturated.
It's something that people need, there's a high need for it.
But there are every one of their dogs selling it here and I'm
saying, gotcha. So you can have those Blue
Waters but you can find a blue water Niche even and Red Waters.
What I mean by that Is like Red Waters.
This really high competition and there's a lot of people doing
it. Therefore it's kind of you know
Cutthroat like but I think where the analogy comes from Android
Waters and it's you know, harder to get more people to compete
against even if there's a high demand.
But if you need yourself out, if you in the right way, people see
me shaking and the wrong way? All the time.
It's not just oh I'm a dog Mom. I'm a boy Mom.
That's not Nation nation is what is the specific problem that
needs to be solved? That is not being addressed.
And that's where we think that we have this illusion and I'm
not going to another conspiracy Road on your anything, but I
feel like there's this illusion that having a job is like the
secure thing. When it's really not your
betting on that CEO, whoever you work for knows how to run their
business, whether it's a hospital in law's, a ions, the
thing about it is, if you're always finding, you could find
you have, everyone here has a world wide web.
You can do your research, find out where that need has that.
It's not provided. You will never go broke.
Well, you can always Find something.
And then by Evergreen we mean that you had set up if you don't
have to ever message them. Like back when I was an emblem
world, I would message somebody and I tell my product, I would
do the whole thing in the whole skit and everything.
And I have to know I really did it because I had a huge passion
for well, health Wellness. I honest to goodness, did I
really wanted? That was my deep.
My dissertation was over this like helping people make changes
in health, it like that was my passion.
There is no doubt that I was passionate about was doing a
love, what I did. And I 100% believed in changing
Lies and my girls that I'd help that timer still on their health
Journey because of that, but I'd have to message them and it took
a lot of time. It took time away from my
family. It took, you know, me being
stuck in my phone, looking down at my phone the whole time and
Evergreen means that somebody can get help from you, and, of
course, or they can do it just by they search, they find it.
And then they, they enroll themselves, but the enrollment
part is where, you know, we could also have a whole nother
conversation because it's, you know, getting that conversion is
sometimes not just as easy as setting it up.
And just It's happening like magic.
Did I describe that? Well or did I get way too many
different orders? You said no.
No, no, you're good but you didn't.
So I'll just summarize because I think maybe for some of those
like a weights, what's going on. So basically Evergreen is
creating products that people can find and purchase and you
don't necessarily have to go here's my stuff let me try to
coach you through it let me try but there might be a level of
consultation you might have to have someone like it.
I'll hop on a call with you to talk and if they want to ask
questions About again, depending on how the price, the price of
the product, right? Yeah.
Usually depends on The Price is, Right?
Yeah. Yeah.
I think I know where course out there.
I was to say, if you were twenty dollar course out there, you're
not hopping on calls, you just by the corresponding box or you
don't. But if you're asking someone to
pay you three thousand dollars for a course, and you might want
to go ahead and hop on a call because people are going to be a
little more apprehensive to hand over that amount of money.
So again, Evergreen is just creating things that courses
books things that don't necessarily Why're you to
promote that people could find and that you can easily sell
with the click of a button. And then also to, now you've
got, you know, income. And so, another thing that I was
thinking, when you were talking was like, an Etsy Shop, Right?
Creating digital products at something that my girlfriend and
I have been getting into recently, because again, we
don't necessarily want to make a ton of stuff, we don't want to
spend a ton of time outside of our families.
And so we're like What can we create digital products that
people can just click and download?
And that's just kind of that same process, go home.
And it's it get like, gives you that freedom because I remember
the first time we were on like a little mini vacation and the
city, like just it wasn't vacation all we like, we live in
a small town. We went into the City and like
stayed in a hotel. It wasn't a vacation at all, but
we're just kind of Outlet. Just getting out of town for a
little bit, I guess I should say and I woke up and the first time
I had $300 deposit in my bank account, I was like, why?
It's I didn't do anything like, what?
Yeah, I do. Like I said it up, right?
But then it repeats anything but then it repeats, you know.
So it's like it's So, it's a friend and work of, however,
like that specific, that specific product to me about two
weeks to build out. And then, but then after that,
it's Evergreen, right? Like it's out there and people
can purchase it. And, and they can just, they can
enroll themselves and that's where, you know, like you can
get the passive income and that's why you can.
It's just weird. It's there's so much out there
and the medical Minds every single medical mind listening to
this year. A cool mind is a gold mind.
You have things that people want, even if you're like,
sitting there like Moses saying I can't do this, I can't do
this. Yes, you can, yes, you can.
As a matter of fact, the Lord uses he loves to use the
underdog but that's his things. If you feel like an underdog
awesome you have another Edge and and talk on top of being a
nurse or a practitioner and it's literally just you can just you
can go anywhere with it that you want and you can you can
literally live out a passion and helping people and like you're
saying like sometimes, you know, Times you might jump on a call,
but even if you jump on a call with somebody, it's just like a
little bit of your time. And usually that's like the 2500
if you want to get down to fuel, the 2500 up, Mark, somewhere in
that range, then you'll you might jump on a call or
something like that, but then, even then your courses can still
be Evergreen. They can still just be, you
know, people people just purchase it yeah.
Yeah. You know, like a week.
Yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
That's really, really cool. And I think one of the things
about those different Arenas is just making sure that you're
known, right? So, That's really where the
marketing and the other aspects of business.
I think, become a little bit more cumbersome for the nurse
because we just don't have that that experience in our training.
We don't get trained on how to Market ourselves at how sell
business and things like that. And so if you could give one
hack to a nurse that's like okay, so what if I create
something? So how do I Market it?
How do I get my name out there? How do I tell people about my
business? What would be something that you
would say? This marketing hack works every
time excuse me this marketing hack works.
Time and I would never give it up.
I don't see her a marketing hack that were genuine lift like copy
or so. I'm talking like in order for
people to know that you're out there because not every no one
knows that Senator Pryor is out here doing this with a podcast.
And so I create a real and I spit it out and I put out reels
and people are like, this was a podcast.
What is this like that part of having people?
Find your product? So find, your course, you've had
to Market to a certain extent, right?
Sighs. Get some people to see.
I got you. What is something that you've
done throughout your business? That you've noticed is really
helpful, and just like this one, this one works, this happen,
Okay? So, it's like, because not every
copy works for every sales PayPal's, I got the number one
thing is to First, do your research.
So I always tell my people pick three things that you're really
passionate about like three things.
Most of us are most of us have multi passion, right?
If you only have one thing that even called to do well then go
for that. Right?
And figure out how to angle it. Right.
But Pick three things you're passionate about.
Do your research, do your research.
It's not always about, like, as far as yes, there are Miracles
that just people have, like, nothing.
I built was because I'm just so incredible.
And I just have this like, amazing, you know, whatever
about me? No, it's because I did my
research first, and I found that people wanted this, they needed
it. Granted the first time I did, my
research was on accident. People just literally, like,
told me help me with this to, you know, but that wasn't, that
was my first like, If you find, if you find out how to solve
problems for people, you will never go broke because you
people want their problem solved.
They want that, that is a value to them.
So do your research, this is probably as here.
I'm trying to, I don't be too technical is almost creepy way
cuz it's really simple, but it can be.
So a rest is one way that you can do your own research.
I'll maybe I'll give a few ways, you can kind of do your own
research. One is a rafts.
So that's an online that shows like what are people searching
for and where's the competition there?
And it, Gives you those numbers. Yeah, now there's a little bit
more to it but that is an awesome starting point for
anybody. And then you can say, okay, I'm
really passionate. These are the three things.
I really want change lives with that.
I know that I'm called to help with most of us have more than
more than one. Most of us have a hard time
narrowing down a three so but which one of those doesn't have
a lot of competition. And then you can get traction
going. Once you get traction, stay in
that lane, don't back down, don't do it one time.
And then say okay I tried it didn't work, don't do that
because That's what that is. Why?
If you're the person that just stays with it you'll be
successful because most people do most people.
Unfortunately most people try it for living.
Like I didn't didn't work. I'm like you literally made one
post. Nobody answered anything, that's
not trying it. You've got to stick with it for
a minute, right. But you find out what are people
searching for in? There's not a lot of, there's
not a lot of things there and then find the platform that you
want to work on. I'm actually not, I do Instagram
now because I don't know. It keeps me motivated.
Staying connected. With that community and I kind
of have room to like it. I honest to goodness did not
like social media at all. When I first started, I only
started because I heard that. That's how you need to start a
business. I don't even recommend social
media or reels anymore, that's a flash in the pan.
And it's gone, you know, there are podcast or actually
fantastic due to Fantastic. Google and YouTube are the
biggest search engines out there.
You can build that information, give quality of information to
people share to their Them what they need to know and what they
are. Like the things that they're
needing, give them something that is a quick win for them and
nurture the credit of your people, it just nurture the crud
out of your people over the liver, always over deliver.
Yeah, those are all really, really good hacks.
Thank you, for sharing that Lauren.
Those are awesome. So for the last question of the
interview is for a nurse at starting of thinking your own
business, what would think about starting his or her own own
business? What would you want them to know
before they start? That this is something that you
need to hold on to as you're about to Embark in this
endeavor. Keep the long-term Vision
intact, it's so easy. Like I said we all have those
like those moments of I can do this.
I'm going to do is I'm so excited and then it doesn't work
out exactly right the first time so we just kind of lose Faith.
Keep the long-term Vision. Every little thing that you do I
like keeping a mindset that every time I built something
that's why I switched to Evergreen another part of that
was because in the MLM world and I constantly doing Facebook
posts and Graham post and keeping up like, I hardly ever
posed on those platforms anymore because it it just it's gone
there and it's gone. Yeah.
And I love building things that like I built this one thing out,
you know, like a video or something that's a quality
people can search for it and find it and I keep on
consistently getting traffic. You build it.
And then you build another one. And then you build another one,
it's going to get stronger with time, even if you don't see,
like the full thing going, like, you don't see tons of traction
right off the bat, keep your faith and just keep on walking.
Fucking keep on walking away. So that brings me to another
thing. Honestly that I would probably
say, is that difference on, am I forcing something or am I being
called to do this? If you still have that passion,
if it still feels like this is hard but I know that I'm in the
right place. Stay with it.
The feel like you're chasing your tail and it feels like it
feels like it's not like I'm forcing something like somehow
I'm forcing this this doesn't feel right then you know, adjust
a little bit and I'm not a fan of some people that's why I left
them on world. I saw a lot of people People
being stuck in that and being encouraged to stay stuck there
because it's better for somebody else and sick.
Yeah, that's actually it is it really is and I, you know, I
hate, you know, I said I don't want to talk anybody or anything
but that I saw that. So you don't know that have that
internal knowing that we can, we talked about, you know, we
talked about a lot on this on this podcast and if you feel
that then you know, that that Wheels spinning stuck thing,
then it's you need to adjust. You need to get traction
somehow, you need to readjust It's don't give up and just know
that like every single thing that you grow and you do is
going to make you stronger for the next.
It absolutely. Even though like an emblem
world, I squash that business. I said, I have nothing to do
with this anymore. I had like pretty good amount of
residual income from that. I just washed it.
I was like, this is wrecking my life.
I threw it away and but I still learned a lot from that even
though, like that didn't you? And I'm saying, like I learned a
lot of value from that and it allowed me to go forward in the
next thing and even stronger. So look at The long-term
picture. Even if it feels like it's
really hard right now, you are making progress way more than
what it feels like in the moment.
Don't live in the moment. That's emotional reasoning.
So one of the things that help you the cognitive therapy.
That's emotional reasoning. You know you have to step back
and look at look at the big picture and we all have a good.
Yeah, that's really good. Laura did for the last part of
the podcast. It's the rapid fire questions
where I just asked you like, are you ready?
Just just fly by the seat of your pants are You ready?
I'm ready. All right, let's do it if I like
this. I don't know why I love this
question. I'm totally hitting it.
Hard these days. What if you could pick a
character to play you on television or an actress to be
playing on TV? What would you?
Who would you choose? Probably Sandra Bullock's.
That's the only name I can think of, I love her because she's so
great. This she is really awesome.
I'm not a big movie buff to be totally honest.
Like, I'm totally that loser, that everyone's like telling
jokes about this. You know, I can talk to you
about about like Anchorman But that's one of the only biggest I
used to be a huge dinner bullet fan.
So way back when I did watch TV. So, yeah, that's funny.
Yeah, yeah. She is awesome.
And then, what would you what do you say when you answer the
phone? Like, what's your like thing?
You're like, pick up the phone. What do you say?
I just say this is Lauren, or it's a number that I don't know,
and I think it might be a marketer.
Hello, active. Because that gives them the
straight little. In think, it's hundreds of
people call me. I don't know who they are.
Are they give up? Yeah, this is Lauren.
So if you could give one book to someone to read, which would it
be one book? I could totally put a plug in
and say, my book, I'm kidding. I'm not the Bible 100%.
I don't even believe. I had to like stop and think
about that for a second. $100. I thought I was gonna come out
like that. Yeah, I was like, oh yeah, and I
didn't even see my life is 100%, the most life-changing thing in
my life. Life.
I mean it took me it was my first step in being like
completely eaten alive with anxiety.
And if you follow the Bible, okay, we don't have enough time.
We do not have any time left so I'm not going to go into the
everything, everything that we teach that is like, good
information knowledge. It's already been said in the
Bible. Amen.
It already had like it already has, and it's hard for us for
our human Minds. Sometimes to see the multi
dimension of the Bible, in the Lord's, the Lord has
multi-dimensional Vision, like he Is every angle we only see
the three dimension was in front of us.
There is so much more to even the life that you have the
present where you're sitting right now that you cannot see
the Lord can see it. He has seen it and he's given it
to us in that in that book. Yeah, yeah, I love it.
Yeah, I could go on that and I love it.
I love what you're saying right there.
And again one of the things I was going to say was there are
31 chapters in Proverbs and it is a book on wisdom.
And so what I love so much about that is that there are 31 days
in most months. And so Jesus literally put 31
days of wisdom that even I just read sometimes just a proverb a
day and I just picked the day so the 14th of November, I just
read Proverbs 14 and I'll just read through that wisdom and
it's always something that I walk away with and I'm like,
I've read this a hundred times. And today I just this part,
stood out to me. And so again, I deal with you is
the most. Yeah, it is the best.
Gift. You can give someone is the
truth of the Bible and the truth of God's word.
And yeah, it's people repackage it, repackage his words and sell
them and they like to make it sound novel and it's just not,
he's just been, he's been a pretty steady message from the
beginning. So I 100% agree very good, what
more and where can people find you if they're looking?
Hey, I know, I want to see what she's offering.
I went to see her functional, medicine course, that's
accredited. My people can get CMEs from it.
Correct 48 Hours of samcro Yeah, but I'm aware of that.
You can get contact hours through it.
Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.
And also with me and you yes if you want to reach out and chat
with me it is me it is not you know some other like random
person that I've hired on Instagram, it's me, you can
always reach out to me at Dr. Dot Lauren.
Dnp and you can also, like, in that link but also, you can go
to what it actually is a bitly link.
Yes, I'll put it in the show notes.
You get it. Yeah, I think it's I think it's
bit.ly live, the free life freebies.
I think that's what it is. But yeah, we can add to the show
notes and then they can get, they can get tons of free stuff
and I don't ever spam anybody. One of my biggest pet peeves and
life is getting tons of emails. I hate, I hate I don't like
using that word. I very strongly dislike tons of
emails. I don't understand me or
anything like that. Yeah, but yep.
Yeah, bit.ly forward, slash live the free life freebies and that
show Okay, that should also get something.
Perfect. I'll link that.
Like I said, and thank you Lauren for your time today.
Thank you for your energy for your Truth For Ya.
Just sharing where you are and what your apartment.
Thank you. Thank you for having me guys.
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