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weekend and I hope you have an even better week.
Joseph Griffin is an army veteran, 11 years with two,
combat tours, after retiring from nursing at the age of 29 is
an ICU manager, he is now the CEO of tax deed, wolf Academy
LLC which specializes in tax deed investing.
So He's going to come on to the podcast today, guys, and talk to
us about his journey what tax deed investing is, how you can
get started in it. And then in the show notes, I've
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let's dive into today's episode. Hi Joseph.
Welcome to the doctor nurse podcast.
Thanks for coming on today. Hey Sandra.
How you doing? A pleasure to be here.
Loving it. Yeah.
So excited and I can't wait to type in know what you're doing.
It just sounds so cool. And just again my family's in
real estate. We love real estate.
Once I saw your profile is like more nurses need to hear about
what he is doing over here. So we've got to get the word
out. Yes, let's get it.
Some life-changing snakes death. Yeah.
So tell me a little bit about what your job title is.
Exactly. A how you view what you do for a
living? Okay, awesome.
So hi everyone. I'm Joseph Griffin.
I'm known as the tax deed wolf. No, I don't do taxes.
All right, A lot of people like, oh can you do my taxes?
They're my inbox. And I'm like, look, we don't do
tax. We specialize in fact, need
investing. So what tax deed investing is,
is in the u.s. whenever you own a property, right?
Whenever you want to property, you have to pay your property
taxes. A lot of people don't know this
for some reason, right? But if you don't pay your
property taxes, the county is going to Take your property and
they're going to give it to someone else that will pay
property taxes right now, depending on what type of state
you live in? We have tax lien, State's tax,
deed States and tax redemption date States.
So a lot of people are familiar with Redemption periods but with
a tax deduction, There's No Redemption period.
When you win the property. It's yours immediately though.
It's, it's yeah, it's a, it's a game changer and going on for a
long time. If you have a mortgage a bank
owns your property technically, right?
So that will go to foreclosure auction.
It's completely different. So a lot of people are like, oh
wait, what about mortgages? And hey, what about this?
What do I need to have? Do I need a license to?
I did a good credit score. You literally only need cash
life-changing stuff lifetime, okay, so the reason why most
people probably don't know about the taxes part, and I learned
this from your podcast, is that it's wrapped up in your mortgage
payment, your taxes, like the bank takes that over because
they're not going to let you not.
Pay your yeah, they're not gonna let you pay your taxes because
they know they could lose the property if you don't do your
part. So, the banks like I need to let
that happen. Let me take it over, correct.
You're gonna flee from Iraq? Yeah, they're gonna foreclose.
So your taxes and your insurance is known as Escrow in your
mortgage, so you're paying paying your taxes if you're
paying your mortgage? Yeah, people don't know that,
you're paying more taxes and insurance and interest than
principal that's true in the very beginning.
What I'm really interested in is how do you help people?
So what's your business model that you're involved in right
now? Like kind of what's how are you
making Money. Good question.
So we're making hap were, how are you making money, right?
This is Mick. We making money.
So if we do tax lien investing, right?
So at any point in time, I may have two to three tax deed
properties that I'm actively flipping right now.
Other than that, we are doing short term rentals.
We have some airbnb's properties that we own and Arbitrage,
right? So then on top of that, we get
done, we do multifamily investing as well.
So we Purchase when I said multifamily I'm not even
talking. Yeah I have a I have one duplex
but we're talking 10 plus units. Typically.
So for example what closing on a 17 Unit in Daytona Beach
currently? Right.
We're supposed to close on that one this week.
So we make money from Real Estate, right, monthly cash
flows. Now how we help others as when I
started doing this, people start asking me questions, right?
How'd you get a property for 1,900 dollars?
How did you get a? Probably fifty thousand dollars
and I'm like, oh, you know, tax deduction and as I was getting
more and more questions, My social media is kind of blowing
up then. I was like, you know what,
somebody was like, you should just make a course.
And I never thought people would want to know this stuff and then
in the numbers, just kept coming in.
Like hey, can I just pay you when you show me and I was just
feeling 101, mentorships and get to know, we have this Academy
and you know, people, you know, they sign up, we have the online
curriculum for teaching not only tax lien investing, but, you
know, there's so much more to being a real estate.
Investor proper business structure asset protection, how
to understand loans, right? It using opium taxes, like
literally there's so much more to just buying property, so we
kind of showed him all that. Well, you said two things that I
think people need explained for my listeners out there.
Could you explain what Arbitrage is and then are you involved in
syndication deals or these are just deals that you're putting
together or you pulling people together to buy real estate
investor Investments, the police do to push.
First question, Arbitrage are but that the technical
definition of Arbitrage, Is taking something that's from
someone and selling it to another someone?
Now, this can be different markets.
Like, literally understanding that in this market, something's
priced very low. So I take it and sell it in
another Market. This can be another country,
this can be another, you know, just another person, whatever.
So, with Airbnb Arbitrage. What we do is we rent a property
from a landlord because we understand the landlord's asking
for a little bit of money compared to what we can make off
that property. So while we're Grunting under
contract with that landlord under corporate least.
We're putting that property on short-term rental platforms such
as Airbnb. VRBO booking.com, and we're
making two to three times more than what the landlord is, is
charging for rent. Then that is crazy.
So, and of course, you've got systems in place to figure out
how to increase the value of that property putting in things
that make people want to spend a little bit more or just
marketing, it better than the actual people that own the
property or marketing. So it's a really good budget
strategy and then they also are getting the money that they need
for the property. You're just managing making
sure, I'm sure there's some, like legal issues with that.
People have to work out and, and all that.
But yeah, that's a really cool way to turn a profit on
something that you can see, might be undervalued.
And then, for the syndication part, or are you about this
indications or just, just you investing into a single property
by yourself? So, yes, the indications, the
same way that that Savannah does it, we find that do.
And that's for know, eventually. We met you know we might do
something on our own. We may do some has like I have
met have like three other partners and one.
Yeah we get these apartment complexes, we syndicated deal
but get the attorney, get all the paperwork done, raise the
funds, get the loan and closed on the property, you didn't wake
up one day and have all this stuff and understand real
estate, and investing and tax deed leans in deeds and all the
things that you know now like this has been a journey to this
spot, right, your journey is pretty interesting.
It doesn't start with you coming out of college with, you know,
and to nursing school. Like it's not that same maybe,
basic cookie cutter type, you know, track you kind of went on
a different track which I find really interesting.
Could you share with my listeners kind of that moment
and kind of going back to when you served in the Army and then
how you ended up getting into nursing and then how yeah, like,
you said, you've gotten out of nursing now through how you've
developed this other in developing, your investing
company? Yeah, it's out.
Really. So it's funny because they say
success is in a straight line, right?
Success is by God's word like a little, I want you to loot that
and I thought that you knew what happened.
So originally, I'm from New Orleans, Louisiana, the Sixth
Ward and after her, hey Trina, is it Go Saints, did it go say,
wait, wait, wait, guys, say go Saints, who died or whatever you
can do that and Katrina, you know, that kind of sent me all
over the place. I was in North Carolinas
Georgia. I was like a freshman in high
school. Happy, right?
So when I finally ended up in Atlanta, Georgia living with an
aunt, I will. It was almost like the Fresh
Prince. Like I was the cousin that moved
in with the kind of below family.
They had both been prior Air Force.
It kind of like structure me, you know, taught me things and I
was just like, you know what, I'm gonna go to the Army because
the Army's got to pay for college and I was playing
basketball when a smaller country and I didn't want to
chance a full ride. So I was just like, you know,
IMA join the Army. So I joined the army army sent
me to School. And then, I literally took every
step to get to RN. I went to I was an EMT first
then Army sent me to LPN school and then after LPN school out, I
finally went, you know, bridge bridge from LPN to RN and got my
BSN. And then, you know, after two
deployments, you know, doing it whatever.
Uncle Sam wanted me. They called you back gate.
I went to Afghanistan in 2013-14.
All we have thank you for your service by the way, appreciate
you. Then we did a private.
I did a private tour working with the Army, not really for
them 2015, right? After you can make good money
doing that. Definitely, we were yeah, it was
over. I was in Kuwait.
You know, we were taking trips by Egypt, like, doing all sorts
of fun stuff. There was definitely some good
in that, but after doing this so long, we were talking about
this, earlier, Sandra, like at some point working in me, in the
hospital, working in the ICU listening to, you know, people
like hey do this eight and this And when covid came we saw, hey
do this this day, and then the next day.
Hey, do this instead, and then the next day?
Hey, this mask instead, you know, and if it's tiresome and
after after a while, I was just like, you know, what, I look
smarter than this, like, I'm literally running this ICU.
And people are telling me what to do that are not here.
Running is. I see you that probably can't
even keep these patients alive. And I was like, that's just not
how I want to, you know, how I want to help by being totally do
and so, you know, but that time and Own business and taking
over. So how did you know that you
wanted to get into this business?
Because one of the things I find is that our nursing skills,
translate into so many things, because we've got to assess and
we've got a monitor. And we've got to then change the
plan. And we've got a delegate.
We've got all these skills that we learned in our nursing
career. It translates so nicely into so
many areas. So how did you know, you wanted
to get an attack seed investing because it's kind of random I
mean, most people aren't like, thinking I'm going to learn how
to take over people's taxes and by their properties.
That's not where most people are.
How did you figure that? This was what sung to your soul,
right? So you, you made a very good
point. How you?
The real thing is, how you do. Anything is how you do
everything, right? So you can go, come on, push
yourself. If you were an awesome Soldier,
whatever you really whatever field you jump into, you're
gonna do good at. If that's just the type of
person you are. You Excel you exceeded anything
you do so It really happened was I didn't have or what.
I thought was, I didn't have enough money to be an actual
real estate investment that, that's what I thought.
And so, you know, I was travel nursing and I had some, I had a
little bit of money saved up. It was like, eight thousand
dollars at the time. And I was like, well, what how
can I become an investor for 8 with eight thousand dollars?
And the first thing I did was leveraged my VA loan, right?
Got a house, no, no money down. Got a house, okay.
All right, then if we had hatched seed investing, and they
weren't any Doctors for this stuff.
It was a lot of trial and error. A lot of phone calls going to
the county and, you know, really figuring this stuff out and I do
Vin. My first property.
I got briefed for three thousand dollars and then my second one I
got from 19:00 and I was like, wow now granted these were just
empty lots but you know still it was man.
This is awesome because the first one I sold for 10,000 I
made Seven Grand and I was like and then got another one for for
3,000 that we sold for 18,000. I was just like You know what
that is? Is it?
And here, I was just flipping, Lots selling them to builders,
right? Getting them for really cheap
selling them to build his. I did that for about a year or
two and during that process just connections and learning and
growing. And then now, here we are doing
it all. You know, you really need to
have three acquisition strategies, not just one so tax
deed, investing is a good entry point, right?
But then you do you start doing the bird method, right?
Then you start syndicating multifamily deals.
You're doing a single Family home games for whatever it might
be, they're just so many strategy, dr.
Pol say, yeah. So it's just like being
Diversified in the stock market, right?
You don't just buy one stock. Well maybe you do, but if you
get really lucky and by Amazon and like you're fine but if you
don't end up buying that they say be diverse and I think
that's kind of what you're describing is that seeing
diversity and in your real estate, investing kind of
protects you against say, some things might not go as well in
this area for this period of time, but that's okay because
I've got this I think that's generating income instead of L
the algorithm right success loves speed.
So first, if you sitting there watching the stock and everyone
else is buying it, but you're sitting back second-guessing
yourself, you're late right, success loves speed, same with
real estate, and it's the same with nursing when a patient
comes in especially if your ER nurse patient comes in, you have
to assess. You have to, you know, you have
to triage staying with real estate.
When something comes in from across your front desk, you have
to determine which Roger going to go, which lender you're going
to call, you know, Which going to be your exit strategy.
Like how you do anything is literally, how you doing?
Everything's the same system. The same algorithm.
I just took it from Healthcare and, and put it into real estate
and you're killing the game, and that's so awesome.
Your Instagram account is blowing up and how many, I
believe you've taught was it four hundred at least 400
students. So you've had to go through your
Academy that you've taught. It's we're probably at 450 to
500 right off. Okay, a pickle.
Yeah, when I think that I read on your thing, I said 400.
So you giving up more from the time that you wrote that.
That's crazy. It's incredible.
Yeah it's not amazing tool. You know I love it I just
because it's the testimonies for me you know somebody that can do
anything suddenly has business credit and and concern that
business credit in the cash to go get their first property or
by the first to pledge. It's just it's a good feeling.
It's definitely the feel ya. So Joseph tell me about You
know, one of the things that I like to highlight on the podcast
is that not every deal. You walked into was a great
deal, not everything that you did.
You were just like I do is win, win, win win win.
I mean this is a DJ Cali, right? You're not just going to
continue to just went right? So what I what I say is there's
been moments of highs and lows throughout your career and you
have just continued to persist. Right.
We learned that it's not so much about motivation, it's about the
discipline. Like what you said when you show
up and you're an excellent person, Just going to continue
that discipline into everything you'd go into, right?
The think a lot of the world is so fixated on like, oh well, you
just had to hand it to you. Just got lucky and you're like,
not it just get lucky. Like, I've been up until 2:00
3:00 4:00 in the morning, working on stuff.
I've been here by myself and people are out doing other
things. I was scraping, I was saving.
I was trying to get money for that deal.
I want to hear about a time where you had a challenge that
you thought Joseph, I think I thought is this what?
This is Is it I'm done for if you would like, no, I Rose above
because I think that's the stuff that's inspiring to people that
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to the conversation. Joseph Joseph is special that
you're just like, I special. This is, this is what I had to
overcome but I just keep coming, I don't stop.
So could you tell me a situation like that?
You got what? Like we said, it's success was
just a big ol, you're looping, your little bit in your your,
you know, you fall down. You get back up recently.
Well, one of the biggest things that that was hard for me was to
get in that shift, were always taught that like credited bat,
right? And would never actually taught
how to use credit how to leverage it direct way.
So, that is bad, I say, yeah, that's bad.
Yeah, bad right. So then when I finally started
it was a big mindset shift for me to understand that.
And which that's are good, which ones are bad.
So, in the beginning, I was asset rich and I was Cash, poor
because I was using my own cash to buy everything.
So, you know, yeah, I might have had thirty thousand dollars and
then once I spit 25,000, I was at 5K, trying to make sure I can
make it through till the, yeah, he just bought his fifth
Property, not Ending that I was, I bought it with my own money,
right? And to give you a prime example,
even just last year, I spent I spent almost I spent about a
hundred and fifty thousand dollars on on a property on a
duplex, right? And I was just like, man, you
know what whatever I need this house, I bought it hundred fifty
thousand dollars, my own money and then looking back.
I was just like, why the heck did?
I could do it so easily so you should have borrowed more from
the bank could have definitely bar More it.
And I was, you know, at the time I was just like, you know, you
have a certain budget and it's like, you know, I make this
month the month of month, it's fine, I can do it.
Yeah, it's month this much money but then suddenly I had five
properties that were not cash flowing.
I had to put tenants out and I had to cover Renovations.
So one property alone I put twenty two thousand dollars to
rehab and it wasn't making any money.
Then I had three other properties that are still
undergoing rehab, so then it was just All this money pushed out
and I have my cash flow, just dropped tremendously and if
yeah, this was my first year like as a full-time full-time
entrepreneur entrepreneur, I was still nursing and don't end on
the side. I was fine.
But when you were a full-time entrepreneur, there's no
guarantee checks coming every Friday night or every other
Friday, and so that's what it was like really, you know.
Okay, you have to game plan. The power of know the power of
saying no, I Didn't understand that.
Like some deals will come across your desk and you have to
understand that hey financially, you have to let this deal slide
for enough. Right?
And what I started doing is, I started passing off, feels to
other people people in my network by, hey look, this is an
awesome deal, but I'm tied up in five deals right now.
Do you want this deal? And what that did was that
started changing other people's lives, right?
So, just like them were just passing off bills.
Hey, look, I can't do it, but I know someone that could do it.
So now you're helping your energies just spreading You're
helping out everyone else and and what that did for me was
just crazy. Then you know, I'm getting so
many more testimony, so many more people saying what everyone
else gives little shit. Yeah.
Yeah and it was just it was an amazing feeling.
But the thing, the thing I want to highlight you said it's not
one of my mentors said Justin Owens.
He he told a story about driving through a storm and how a lot of
people want to pull over on the side of the road and just, you
know, put their hazard lights on and just wait for the storm to
pass the word. And you can do is stop in the
middle of a storm. It's always saying how is near
the guy kept telling them keep driving?
Keep driving and you know it's it's rough right?
Your windshield wipers are going fast as possible.
You still you good. So then you're going because
you're going two miles an hour, but guess what?
Finally, eventually you see the light?
Like the rain starts slowing down and then you're out the
spoon, but if you look back, everyone that stopped and pulled
over are still there and they're still warm, right?
So the worst thing that you can do is stop.
This is something that, you know, we kept going by.
Hey, look. All right.
What else can we do? All right.
What else can we do? What else can we do now?
And then that, you know, that time beginning of last year,
where we were going through those struggles?
That's History. I told my wife write this down,
right? This moment down because this
is, this is going to be the lowest of our are low.
And, and we literally put it on our calendar, okay?
We're like, hey look, this is, this will never happen again and
we learn from them. And it was just amazing.
Yeah, but you just got to keep going.
It sounds like again, we all had these moments where you kind of
get tested your resolve for what you want gets tested.
And it always happens. I remember when I first went
part-time, I don't know if I should have sat on the podcast
yet, but when I first went part-time at my job, I felt such
strong conviction that I needed to be home more.
And so I said, you know what, I'm going part-time, that's it.
And I didn't even know how much I was going to make is a nurse
practitioner. Are working part-time at the
hospital. And so I was like, I don't think
are I can make $10 an hour. I can make 15, I'm just I cannot
do this anymore. Like this is draining my life
source so I went and again it cut my paycheck, almost 70
percent so it was like a huge drop.
I was like, wait, how does 50% cut you 75?
I don't understand the math on that, but let's just keep going.
And then my husband lost his job and I remember being like, Oh my
gosh, like my husband lost his job.
So I went part-time. I'm in March covid, hit my
husband got laid off, March it was all like Marx was just like
covid husband's losing his job. I'm part-time and so we were
like my going back and I was like, no, I'm not going back.
I refuse to go back, right? I'm not going back to that store
and it ended up working itself. Out, my husband, just got a
lateral transfer someplace else and it ended up all being okay.
Now again, he applies to like 150 jobs.
I'm pretty sure when he was like he was just hungry.
Hustle and right. So but I just say that to say
like in each moment you do remember that testing of like,
okay, we're about to be an entrepreneur about to leave my
nursing job. Which how long did you work as a
nurse total? It was like nine eight, nine
years. If you count the lp and stuff
and all the stuff we did it, the Army, but as an RN it was like
three years. It was like three years hasn't
wow. Yeah, and it's not long at all.
Yeah, we excelled so quick because when I graduated from
Art School, A job waiting for me, right?
And I rewrite into it was the Progressive Care Unit and six
months. And I was like, what do we what
do we say? If anybody takes anything from
this college? How you doing?
Anything, is how you do everything, six months, and
working in a Progressive Care, Unit step down from the ICU.
I was like, okay, what's next? Like, I've mastered this, what's
next? So then you went to the ICU in
like six and six months of working right jump to the ICU
and and guess what? A year.
Year less than a year later, I was traveling and they actually
had me be assistant manager because I was just doing so much
better than the other nurse. I'm like what?
27 28 at the time, and two less than two years to go to
traveling to assistant manager, that's kind of not normal,
right? Kind of not normal, but get
help, no one knew. No one would even know, like I
was literally running that running this like got to sound
cocky or anything but Not some nurses show up for a paycheck.
Some nurses are literally watching YouTube videos, reading
books, still years after graduation.
I was that nerds constantly studying medication.
I wasn't just giving meds. I know the structural like why
this med works, why? I was going to give you vasil
person over, you know, over something else to get your blood
pressure up. Like literally it was just, it
took effort in the beginning but it was life changing.
The doctor said, well then, as gods.
The point like Hey where's Joey that's what they call me in the
hospital, where's Joey? We want to talk to Joey you know
you please watch this patient blah blah, blah.
So it, wow. You can do it.
I remember I listen to you on. I think it was your podcast or
something else. What I was looking you up and I
saw that like you said you looked up certain medications
and you were like this is going to affect their kidneys and this
isn't good. So like you would tell the
doctor or the other their arses like we can't give this because
of whatever whatever if you were like I made an intentional
effort. I know why I was giving
something and what it would do but I was impressed.
Just hearing you say that I was like dang because that takes
extra work. Like yes, nurses are trained to
fill in the orders of the doctors and what we should be
focusing on is the fact that where that last line of
protection for those patients. And so if you have a good nurse
at your bedside, you can make the difference in someone's
life, because doctors, don't know everything.
There's sometimes residents, they're tired, they're
overworked, they're doing the best they can.
And if they have a nurse at the bedside, Side.
That is protecting, just not only the patient but also them.
Then they are way more careful when you're raised a red flag in
your life. We wait.
You sure, you want to give this and they're like, nope, I'm not
sure I want to do this. Why don't you think?
I could just sit the bike because you spent the time I
knew it was a game changer when the person who was orienting me,
a doctor was asking a question and then he was like, he was
like Joey. Do you know?
And the question was were talking about the difference
between like basil president and levophed or something like Yeah,
I understand all blood pressure medications.
Don't work the same. Right?
So, you know, I broke down to him.
I was like, what? Look, this one's going to
actually close your closure bessel's a little bit more to
increase your pressure. While this one is going to give
you some eta1 and and, you know, contract ability with that.
I mean, I was just breaking down something.
I didn't remember what it was at the time and it will like and he
and he's training you and I was like, oh, But I had been
watching YouTube videos on the way to work.
Like literally, you know, something you just want your
paycheck. You know what I love about this
story is that you are learning for life, you are learning and
every single moment. And that hunger for knowledge is
something that I think school personally takes out of you,
you've got to be hungry to learn for you, not for a grade not to
show that, you know, it on the test.
But because, what, you what you hear from all these, People
credit card out Mark Cuban. You know all these super
successful entrepreneurs is just to stay hungry to learn know
that you don't know everything. It is long as you stay in that
space up. I don't know.
I need to go figure out enclose
this gas as you begin to do that.
You will begin to change your life as everybody around you is
not doing that. They're just again like you said
collecting a paycheck going home and living their life.
But you were making that that hunger for knowledge Aged just
something that was a staple that you were like, using your
moments. Instead of Netflix and chilling.
Youtubing it and learning, right?
I actually have the side in my, in my back and my closet, which
is where record my podcast, where it says, replace Netflix
with podcast, replace influencers with creators
replace overthinking with action.
I like to replace these things at the world or people tell you,
oh, it's my Netflix and chill is like no, you're wasting time.
So I actually took Netflix elf. Found because I was like, nah, I
don't need to waste time, this is going to start time for me
and that's my time. Give it to me like that me time
back and so now that's what I do.
Every time I'm like, hello, Netflix the way put on a
podcast, the learn about something.
I'm like that, uh, hate that girl.
Who's that? Girl is huge.
Its own it before you turn into a hundred percent man, that's so
good. So you talked a little bit about
your mentors. Anybody else?
You want to shout out and say, hey man, I know but he's a
self-made man. Nobody is, I'm sorry.
I don't care who you are, you didn't make it there by
yourself, so So somebody's been either reaching back or somebody
has helped you turn into the person that you are today and
I've heard a couple. So like this people that you
stayed with when you were in West Philadelphia born and
raised on the playground, you spent most of your days, those
sound like there's people were your mentors but have you had
anybody else? That's just come along and I
mentored you. It's crazy.
So this is this is actually a good lesson because you're not
going to have just one Mentor right there.
You might need a mentor in different areas.
My first Mentor, I paid for a paid for this consultation,
right? This, this guy's name is Jada
Jada, and he was, he literally, I had this course and I didn't
know what the heck I was doing right.
I knew what I knew the subject, but I didn't even know how to
make a coat. Is how to set up a curriculum,
that's net good, he broke it down for me.
Hey, you need this, you need the copyright because somebody's
gonna sleep stuffin, blah blah blah.
He it was $250 per like a 30-minute call and I almost
didn't do it right but when I did it, it was like oh my
goodness. This was Like five trying to
change in color, then it jumped into a Marco Russell who had a
program where he showed you literally how to set up your
coach or your your program Facebook ads like everything.
So then I finally had this thing and we, it took me weeks, I shut
down. I was nobody talk to me.
I'm getting this done right? Put this program together
because it's one thing to have the knowledge, but you have to
know how to present the knowledge to and that's
something that I don't understand.
At the time, like people will sign up.
Your course, but if they don't get value in it's not delivered
in a clean cut weight. Then you're going to get a lot
of charge bags, you're going to get a lot of complaints.
So that was, that was huge in the course.
Now as far as real estate goes, I don't want to tell you how
much money I've spent on mentorship, the first program
about 18,000 dollars where I started learning.
I learned lease, options, learning, just various things,
the multifamily investing, how to, how to purchase and Cindy.
Kate, you know, multiplayer she goes, 20 plus units. 38,000
dollars for that for that program, right?
And now it doesn't there's, there's more programs like you
got to be kidding me Nehemiah Davis, his I joined his
Mastermind. He, you know, he shows you a
whole bunch of things on, you know, how to how to grow your
social media, how to really, you know, grow your following this
and that and that his mentorship 75,000 dollars, right?
It's nuts. So you you have to pay to play,
right? I spent so much time on YouTube
University and it was just, I was all over here every like,
you know, all over everyone and wish her actually pay to take a
course, right? I spent more than all this, what
I just told you, I spent more than school.
So someone could show me how to work till I was 65.
And then retired, like, living alone.
I paid more to be a part of a system, so I just put a little
bit of money to for somebody to show me how to break that
system. And in case, literally, Changed
my life literally. No, I was actually thinking that
as you were talking I was I was like I spent that amount on my
dnp which again as we spoke before the podcast, made me a
slave to the hospital Perry like it didn't do anything for me as
far as Freedom flexibility time. Flexibility.
And I'm not saying that I want to just sit at home and drink
mimosas and chill and do nothing like no.
I know that I want to be busy doing something because our
bodies crave. Goals they Crave, You know
things to do weird built to work were built to create and so I
don't believe that that's what I was after but I was after the I
don't have to be here every single moment of the day and I
don't have to work. When you say I have to work, I
can work in those pockets of time between raising and taking
care of my family. And I began to realize that I
had made a costly investment are and yes, I'm happy.
I have my doctorate and yes, I think it's It's great.
That you know I spent that time and I learned all that extra
stuff but again if that's what you're chasing fine, that will
get you there. But if you're chasing something
else, which is what I really am trying to bring light to, in
this podcast, then that might not be the best place to invest,
thirty thousand dollars. It might be in one of these
things that you're describing here of how to grow your
Instagram account, if that's what you want to do or how to
grow your personal business or how to create a course or
whatever. Like Baby.
Don't go get the NBA, maybe go spin the Tyler and he had to go
do this so that you can create that flexibility because an MBA
necessarily won't fulfill that for you and get you on the path,
if that's what you're wanting in your life.
So, super great advice and again, yes, 100% agree with you.
Well said, hey, there's those that said it's scary.
A lot of people will you know they won't think like that and
they won't do it but I was I was going to school for NP and I Opt
out after realizing that I think I was sitting at the nurses, the
nursing station and that very weakened after, you know,
selling a property after getting my course and everything going
so that we can, I have made like 20,000 dollars in a weekend and
I was just like, hey what am I doing?
I was talking to all the nurse practitioners and they were just
so stressed out there. Like I'm always here, I have to
do all this work. It's here then I have to go
never going to be a doctor. Yeah, bake this and this and
that. And and then I found out that I
was making water, more money, literally one of the travel
assignments. I think I made more money than
one expectations. And she was, like, I should have
just stayed a nurse. She was, like I said, just a
data already and when travel nursing.
And so that's, that's when it really hit me.
I will text, you know, I love this knowledge but, you know,
the time Freedom, like you said the time, freedom to just
actually be a real estate investor anywhere.
And and that's, that's horrible. Yes, I agree.
I agree. That's way more powerful than
the stuff that they feed you in school that they tell you is
important. I'm just sorry, I'm going to
stay at. I'm going to be the person to
say it because I think a lot of people are afraid.
They're afraid to say things and I'm like, you know what?
Like if that's what you want, good for you, go for that.
But I am just trying to inspire nurses because what I'm hearing
is that they are burned out and tired and you're seeing it, I
mean nurse practitioners have all this extra Ability yet.
We don't, we're not respected on our colleagues staff team and
where they look at us as, you know, again like this nurse role
where it's like you're at mid-level providers.
Like what's mid-level like am I in purgatory?
Am I a fool level? Like how do I level up?
It's just all these things that it's just, the system is
designed not to support you. And so, I want to showcase nurse
practitioners and nurses that have been able to go.
I'm breaking free from the system.
I'm work the system to help me get to the spot.
It's in my life but I don't want to retire at 65 like I want to
be retired at 29 years old like you were able to just step away
29 and leave nursing. I just think that's incredible.
And again you're not not working, that's not what I'm
advocating for here is that people just sit on, you know and
if that's you get to do gray and Vale and sip Mai Tais and like
chill like great that's good for you but like again you are
working. It's just life on your terms and
I think that that is the most beautiful thing that you can do
with your working career is to be able to Have that time and
that flexibility. And so last question of the
podcast and I like to ask everyone, if you could go back
to Joseph, he's just he's working through his LPN.
Heshes working through his RN. He's about to go.
I get that. Be a sin if you could tell him
one thing to go. Hey brother.
This is a piece of advice. I want you to hold onto and
write it to the wheels fall off. And this is the piece of advice
and when you hear it's garbage, don't listen to it.
What would you tell yourself? Oh wow.
It would be a straightforward year worth more York like
literally you're worth more than the hourly pay check and you're
worth more than I remember times where I was, I literally was
gonna go get like a certification to to get an extra
freaking, $1 an hour, are you kidding me and we've all had
these tunnels thought about it one dollar an hour.
Like MIT, I'm gonna go get my stroke certification and turns a
spoonful. I can get an extra Or I'm going
to teach EMT so I can work on the weekend and make an extra
300 bucks, you know? So I would literally tell myself
like listen, you're worthy. And once you acting, it was Rich
Dad, Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki was explaining how, you know,
this dad was was doing one thing, but then this dad was
constantly hustling to get this raise every 6 months or a year
and every time he was still disappointed, right?
The Christmas bonus. The $50 $100 bonus.
That I got at the hospital. I think I gave one of my
employees like Like almost a thousand dollars as a as a
Christmas bonus and to me, it was like, man, that's that's
better. That's what he meant by stop.
I'd rather get 1,000 bucks then then 50.
But I know you're worth more in words so much.
That's what you tell them to hold on to.
But what about to toss? Oh to tallest.
Whoo. I would I would have probably
tell him that it's hard, his whole circle, everyone that he
was hanging around with out. Just go hang around some
millionaires. That's what that's Really did
it. If I was surrounded by
millionaires, a lot sooner I probably would have been a
millionaire a lot sooner. He knows that that is that's
probably the best response I've ever had to that to that
question. No, I'm serious because yeah, I
mean like you said like you said earlier but still you are around
affects who you are, who you are.
And again when you're around people that are in that same
system, now that the system of I get to get you guys stroke
certification girl, get you that dollar if you're around somebody
that's like nah a dollar. Are you kidding me?
Let me show you how to make 20,000 you're like excuse me.
Like I don't need to hang out with you dollar stroke person.
I could go hang out with this guy over here because again
these conversations in our what people just feel like when
they're here, listening that they are in that City, you're
talking to Joseph. Like you're getting to spend
that time with someone who is doing exactly what it is.
Is that we all want and I just think that was probably the best
answer I've ever heard of just get around people there doing
the things you want to do and you can't, you can't put in the
same input expecting a different output.
You got to change it up and so change Out Your Circle?
Yes! Yes.
All right, but the last part of the interview it's the
rapid-fire questions and these you cannot prepare for.
I do not give me the head of time.
I literally just fly by the shoe flight, fly by the seat of your
pants. Answer them.
Are you ready? Let's go.
Give me time to answer. That's really messed up.
There you go, name it. Person who inspires you near my
Davis. And what are you most grateful
for in the whole wide world? My family.
Yeah, I knew you were gonna say that and what's your favorite
game of all time? And like that could be a board
game. It can also be like a sports
game. Does he look like a sports guy?
So like, give me either one Monopoly of cord and Napoli.
Savannah told me that was her favorite game, too.
I'm not surprised you guys are in sport basketball, but yeah,
there's Monopoly, got it. Very cool.
Well, just, it was so nice to talk to you.
Thank you for coming on the podcast today.
And where can people find you? I'll put all your stuff in the
show notes, but definitely on every platform Instagram
Tick-Tock, whatever, tax deed, wolf, ta XD, e, d, wolf3d.
Think I have a stellar first. Like, how do you spell?
Yeah. Do you guys have like a like a
mascot? Like who, like do you like,
cause my little one neat when I say wolf, he owes goes.
So do you guys like how? Like a, like a chance or
something, or have a good but we, we definitely don't have the
wolf up, of course, on our logo. Yeah, I've seen it a little go.
It's got like a wolf howling, but the background is like a
house, it's below, that's cool. Yeah, it's been in the mood.
Yeah, that's cool. Well, Joseph again, thank you
for your time today. Thank you.
For yeah, coming on and sharing your wisdom with nurses wheat.
We need it. We need some inspiration.
So thank you. We thank you dr.
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