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Hi and welcome to another 
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podcast. 
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You decided to join me today. 
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I'm a doctoral you prepared 

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nurse practitioner who wants to 
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degrees. 
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something more or I could do 
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Welcome back to the show, Nina 

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heart. 
I'm so happy to have you on 

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today and talk about your 
business, you are The owner of 

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heart Health Care Solutions 
which helps in post-acute care. 

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Companies take back operational,
health of their organization, 

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improve the efficiency, stop the
Vicious Cycle of critical 

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Staffing, enhance survey 
outcomes and ultimately improve 

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patient care and kind of how 
you've launched another branch 

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of your business, which is 
helping nurses create their own 

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businesses, which is pretty cool
Consulting businesses. 

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So guys, she's back on the 
podcast to share her latest 

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Endeavor, which I'm so So 
excited about we were talking 

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about prior to getting on first 
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Welcome, you know, so glad to 
have you and yes, I cannot wait 

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to dive into what you've been 
doing in this new kind of 

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pursuit. 
I'm really glad to be here and 

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tell me a little bit about kind 
of what you're doing with this 

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new role is what your nubes is 
kind of taking off. 

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So this kind of new branches, 
heart health care consultants 

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over the last year. 
As I was working my own 

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Consulting business, I started 
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Of Interest. 
A lot of Facebook messages from 

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nurses, a lot of comments on my 
post about what I'm doing. 

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Like I want to do that too, I've
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How can I start? 
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it's really hard to respond to 
all those in a way. 

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That's any helpful to nurses, 
there's limited help. 

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I can actually offer if you 
message me and say, how do I 

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start a Consulting business? 
I can't walk you through that 

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via messenger, it's impossible. 
So I felt like I'm kind of 

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letting Them down, not really 
being that help. 

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So I started putting together a 
course pieces of what I was 

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doing in the things that my 
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That was really helpful and then
the things that kind of left out

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that weren't so helpful or I 
didn't really connect her 

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aligned with because a lot of 
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are a lot like me. 
So I'm like this is confusing or

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I don't understand or I could 
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So I took kind of the best parts
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into a course. 
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People just can't do a course. 
I can't often just do a course. 

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So it morphed into this coaching
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program of impact and income as 
your own boss and it's a 

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Consulting training program for 
nurses who want to launch a 

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Consulting business and don't 
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figure out what they would do, 
which seems to be the main 

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problems that I was getting 
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So, for my listener, that's 
like, okay wait, what is she 

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talking about? 
I didn't listen to that episode 

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of her first. 
Episode walk. 

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Walk me through that Journey. 
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that we talked about again, 
guys, I think the episode in the

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show notes so you can take a 
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Journey. 
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situation moving to Hawaii, 
super expensive, place to live 

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you with sole Breadwinner and 
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And yeah, you would, you know, 
sold everything back on the 

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mainland. 
You living in Hawaii and the 

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bottom falls out. 
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you were starting your 
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told me how much money you made 
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Absolutely blew my mind, how 
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Consulting business over the 
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talked and that's what made 
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How the heck are you doing this?
How are you making so much 

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money? 
Teach me how to get started. 

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So kind of walk me through. 
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that whole, entire unfolding 
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So exactly what you said you hit
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We moved to Hawaii to take my 
dream job after I had Totally 

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fried myself trying to Define my
own success in my job for the 12

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to 15 years in healthcare 
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Everything I did was about being
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working harder than everybody 
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to be promoted and it worked. 
My job was my success. 

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I was always successful at work.
I had never had problems at 

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work, but then I take this dream
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You just give away everything to
make it work, right? 

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Get there over commit. 
Self and get fired five weeks 

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in. 
Without a good reason. 

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I mean, I just said it wasn't a 
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There are a lot of takeaways now
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Still feels like yesterday. 
I'll be honest, it feels like 

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that happened yesterday. 
That was the most devastating 

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thing that ever happened to me. 
I know that sounds silly that 

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being fired was the most 
devastating thing that ever 

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happened to me, but when your 
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was crushing. 
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had been applying for jobs as I 
got fired and a physician called

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me and said, Oh, hey, you 
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director position. 
And it's filled. 

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And I was like, oh well, thanks 
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And he's like, I saw on your 
resume that you worked for this.

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Other competitor for five weeks,
what happened there and I said, 

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well they fired me. 
You know, he already told me the

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job is filled, right? 
I got nothing to lose. 

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Here, you they fired me and he's
like, really. 

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And I said, yeah, I didn't work 
out and he's like, yeah, me too 

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Billy. 
That's why I started my company.

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I was in that role that you are 
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And I was like, Wow. 
And he's like, yes started my 

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own hospice. 
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He's like I'm now the CEO of my 
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And I saw on your resume below 
being fired that you've done a 

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lot of accreditation and 
compliance stuff over your 

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career. 
It's like yeah led a very large 

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hospice achc survey in Tennessee
for a single provider and really

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had a great team and great 
results and he's like what would

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you think about doing some 
Consulting and just helping me 

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do that? 
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wanted to do Consulting I would 
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I also have zero income and at 
5,000 bucks for my career. 

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Right now. 
Yeah, my schedule is clear. 

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So he's like what did you make 
is CEO if you don't mind me 

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asking, I was like fuck kind of 
pans out to about 125 an hour. 

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It's the most I've ever made in 
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I'll do 150 an hour and I'm 
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didn't start out for me as this 
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I am now a consultant and here 
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packages. 
Here's what I have to offer, and

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I think sometimes is Nurses and 
our task brain mind. 

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We I want it to be very cut and 
dry and professional and clear 

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and it's not like that all the 
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Sometimes it's just seeing where
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So during it out as you go along
the way, I didn't have a program

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for accreditation. 
When he called me, I had 

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nothing. 
I had no job. 

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I had no income. 
I had nothing. 

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So I started working with him, I
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the year. 
I worked an average of 15 to 25 

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hours a week, the rest of the 
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And and matched my CEO salary 
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I also started developing out 
some stuff I had made as a 

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director of nursing in the past,
put it in a little folder and 

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shared it in a Facebook group on
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Before Memorial Day weekend, and
I was like, hey, I put these 

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forms together. 
I made as a director of nursing 

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to help with survey and they're 
in a little, in a download 

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folder. 
It's 27 bucks. 

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I hope it helps you out. 
Post it in a couple, d0n 

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Facebook groups and on Monday. 
When I woke up there was 2700 

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dollars in there in PayPal from 
that folder. 

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So 100 directors of Nursing in 
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that download folder for $27. 
It's now $200 that's 15 years of

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my experience. 
I put in those forms imagine how

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good that saves them. 
Okay, wait a second. 

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Okay, hold up. 
That's crazy. 

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So you took your expertise from 
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directors of Nursing and you 
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So what was valuable and there 
that people were like, gotta get

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it. 
So as a director of nursing, I 

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had to do a lot of audits and 
there's a lot of things that 

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need done step by step that are 
hard to keep track of. 

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So it's hard to know as a new 
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What I'm supposed to be looking 
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I don't even know what to look 
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I don't know the regs as a new 
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checking. 
And there's not always resources

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for leaders in healthcare. 
There's a lot of pressure to be 

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the one, who knows everything 
but oftentimes is not the one 

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who knows everything, right? 
You just The one who took the 

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spa who took the keys, right? 
So yeah, I put forms that I had 

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created from different survey 
Audits and Regulatory 

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checklists. 
That's all it is. 

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I think about if you opened up, 
Microsoft Word right now and 

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literally made a bullet point 
sheet of everything you knew 

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about one very small topic, like
all the mistakes you could make 

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or things you could oh look when
you're doing this one thing. 

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I just put 20 of those in a 
folder and sold, it didn't 

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30,000 dollars in 2021. 
One, I'm sorry. 

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They did thirty thousand dollars
in 2021 from May to December. 

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I started putting myself out 
there in ways that I had been 

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too afraid to, but I had been 
putting my knowledge of survey 

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and Regulatory into a course 
platform since 2020. 

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So we'll for over a year and 
never shared it with anyone. 

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I don't even think I told my 
husband about it for months, 

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once you get passed, this 
threshold of fear and we put 

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yourself out there with a very 
clear message. 

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Hey, this is what this is. 
This is what it's for. 

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This is the price, this is a 
problem is Of here it is. 

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If you want it, great, if you 
don't, I'm not a salesperson. 

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I'm not trying to push it on 
because it's just helpful 

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information, right? 
Let's talk about the role of a 

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DD 0 n because somebody's like 
okay, wait, I don't even know 

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what a deal when is. 
What was she doing? 

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I don't understand what that job
title is so describe. 

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What a g0 n is again, for 
someone that didn't listen to 

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the original podcast that you 
did break all this down and then

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talk kind of something that you 
mentioned is well, or we'll just

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talk about kind of what a nurse 
consultant is. 

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It's a really great, great 
question because it is a a 

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question that I get more than 
any other question is, what is a

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nurse consultant? 
What do they actually do? 

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I don't get it. 
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Usually, the d0n is above the 
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They are the end-all be-all of 
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came from, the d0n has all of 
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often even oversight over 
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end-all-be-all. 
If a nurse doesn't show up, it's

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my phone, that's ringing. 
I am responsible for every 

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clinical thing that happens. 
I'm responsible for survey for 

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outcomes for Falls, for wounds, 
for discharges for therapy 

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outcomes for reimbursement for 
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it. 
So there's a lot that goes into 

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that role that new leaders who 
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very overwhelmed walking into 
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That feels impossible sometimes.
I think what you're describing 

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just really quick is and for 
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from managing maybe your 
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your little thing, you get 
comfortable and then you get 

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promoted to this next level of 
leadership that you feel 

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unprepared for right? 
No, no. 

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Would you provided was that 
bridge for? 

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Let me help. 
Get you quicker to the point 

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where you're like okay we I know
what I need to manage now and I 

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know how to manage it and what I
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to do that work my experience 
coming into that role. 

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It took Well over a year to feel
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charge nurse you. 
Maybe you're lucky to get six 

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weeks of training, really lucky 
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training and then maybe after a 
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you're like, I'm an expert. 
I know my schedule. 

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I know my expectations I know 
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It took me I would say a year 
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I knew what I was doing as a 
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Wow. 
So in the long term, there are 

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models of Consultants that float
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They have a A region of 
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And that was my ultimate goal at
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consultant. 
Have this freedom to not be in 

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one. 
Building all day, could be a 

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resource for all the buildings. 
I thought that was what a 

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consultant is. 
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to a consultant is an internal 
employee who provides support or

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resources to a region and that 
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local nurse exactly. 
That is one before like a leader

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in a float roll like a renal yes
we'll be okay like you're real. 

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Oh wow. 
That is true. 

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That is a consultant. 
There's a lot of conflict of 

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interest there. 
You're still an employee, you 

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can't choose your hours. 
You can't choose your pay. 

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You can't choose your travel and
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interest. 
If you want to bring something 

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up, that could put your job in 
Jeopardy. 

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You're not going to bring it up 
or I'm not go. 

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Give me an example of that. 
Well, if I failed to audit 

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correctly, my one building and 
they come in and find all these 

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mistakes and it was my job to do
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And I failed to do it 
accurately. 

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Accurately or I found something 
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this up? 
If I bring this up, the director

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in that building gets fired and 
I have to go sit in that 

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building and it's two hours for 
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that. 
So I'm just going to try and 

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work it out so I don't have to 
go cover that bill. 

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That's a conflict of interest 
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who is a nurse expert in one 
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organizations to provide 
specific guidance, on a solution

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to a problem that they have 
that's costing them money or 

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staff. 
If I'm external I'm going to be 

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like, hey This has gone on right
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I found this right here. 
Here's what you need to do to 

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fix it. 
I don't care what your employee 

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Dynamics are. 
I'm not involved in, it doesn't 

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affect me or my job if I call 
out the issues you're having. 

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So I think sometimes nurses who 
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as and please don't realize, 
you're still an employee of that

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company. 
You don't have control over all 

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those things I mentioned. 
Then you're also still Bound by 

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your employment to them. 
I don't even thinking. 

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If you have to report It to you 
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Hey listen, this is a problem 
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it's not a problem and you just 
need to deal. 

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So all the sudden like, even if 
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So yeah, yeah, they don't want 
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have to deal with that. 
I don't want to deal with that 

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or it's going to take so much 
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problem. 
So just ignore it. 

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It's not that big of a deal. 
So then now when it all falls 

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apart, you're standing there and
they're like, well who brought 

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it up? 
Like I did. 

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Well, I did bring it up. 
So yeah, we're on the chopping 

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block. 
Right? 

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So it's just better to keep your
mouth shut if you know that the 

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person you're working for isn't 
going to really make any 

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changes. 
You really can't be objective as

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a consultant when you're an 
employee. 

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Now there's nothing wrong with 
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I want that was my ultimate 
career goal at one time so I'm 

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not dogging anyone in a 
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It's an amazing opportunity to 
impact and to really be an 

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expert in an area. 
And I'm just suggesting that you

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can also do that independently 
without being an employee and 

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have a lot more control. 
Now, as a consultant for an 

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organization, they're going to 
say, I want you to go to 

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Lexington, Kentucky, and you 
need to stay there Monday 

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through Friday, 8:00 to 5:00 
until that Bloody is stabilized.

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And you're like, well, I live in
Akron, Ohio, and I have kids and

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I don't want to stay in 
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Monday through Friday, right? 
I don't want to have to do that 

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and working for yourself, you 
make those decisions. 

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I can be available to you, 
Monday afternoon all day 

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Tuesday, and half of Wednesday, 
and then I need to head on home.

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Okay. 
Thanks. 

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And you set your own hours, your
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availability. 
And really that's something for 

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me. 
That is super important to have 

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the clarity of control over my 
work life balance. 

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Now I go to the pie, don't even 
schedule myself for work on 

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Friday. 
My kids get off at noon, so 

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sometimes on Friday, while my 
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the beach and then they get home
at noon. 

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And then I spend the rest of the
afternoon with them because I 

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can't try to pressure myself 
into working more hours. 

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And the beautiful thing about 
Consulting is you don't need to 

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work more hours now. 
I try not to schedule tracks 

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around hourly. 
I don't even guarantee hours 

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anymore. 
It's going to be twenty thousand

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dollars to get. 
This one reason period, if that 

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takes me four hours because I'm 
an expert, and I've done this 

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for 15 years, then it takes me 
four hours, great. 

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If it takes me 40 hours to get 
that result, then it takes me 40

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hours but you still get that 
result. 

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So there's a lot more. 
Yeah. 

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But sometimes I, Be scary to 
nurses to have that unchecked. 

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You know, it's a lot of you have
to Define that for yourself. 

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You have to take control of that
and, and make those choices. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
You know, you're not worth 

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making them for you because you 
sound like someone who knows 

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their worth, you know what your 
schedule is going to be. 

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You've got your priorities 
straight and you're not 

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deviating from. 
These are my non-negotiables, so

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it either works or it doesn't, 
but I didn't. 

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I was a corporate nurse, I 
literally almost lost my 

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marriage over not having clear 
boundaries between work and 

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home. 
I would work until 11:00 at 

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night because I thought that 
would give me recognition. 

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So after I got fired and someone
didn't recognize my work, I 

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realized holy cow, I'm super 
burn out, I got fired because 

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probably a lot of it was my 
fault and I just didn't realize 

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it how fried I was and how 
engaged I really was. 

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And it finally started and it's 
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that I got fired on January 6th 
of 2021. 

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So in 3 months, November 
December January, it'll be two 

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years and I am just peeling the 
layers of this onion of burnout 

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that I think is a very easy term
to throw around but this is 

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deep-seated stuff over 15 years 
of me being a high performer and

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trying to show my worth and not 
having boundaries, not giving my

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family, any of the property, 
they deserve not giving my 

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marriage the priority. 
It deserved because I was so 

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worried about looking successful
at work. 

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So for a nurse that's sitting 
there and she's hearing your 

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story, it's hitting her in her 
heart. 

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She's like, I'm there. 
I am in that same position. 

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I'm burned out. 
I'm tired. 

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How can someone get started with
nurse Consulting? 

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Say, they aren't in long-term 
care. 

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They're in something else. 
What are you able to kind of see

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that nurses are able to move 
into in this nurse Consulting 

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role. 
There are Consulting Specialties

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for every single area in 
healthcare there. 

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Finance, there's business 
management sales. 

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So G infection control wound, 
care acute care, shared 

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governance magnet status, it 
privacy technology data 

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analytics edges. 
I could literally go on and on. 

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I actually have a list of 40 
Specialties that a nurse should 

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consider there's legal nurse 
consulting, which is really hot 

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right now. 
That's not something. 

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I do the thought of being 
deposed makes me want to hide in

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a hole in the ground, but a lot 
of nurses are interested in. 

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In forensic, nursing legal nurse
Consulting, there is some, it 

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less areas that Consultants are 
currently needed and used and if

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you Googled something, you are 
interested in and you already 

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found a nurse consulting company
for that, instead of saying it's

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taken, say yes. 
There's a market for this 

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because somebody else is doing 
it, successful. 

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Yes, that is a really good 
mindset. 

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And again, switching mindset is 
something that you and I were 

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talking about. 
Out repeatedly. 

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I think this is sometimes hard 
for nurses to break free from of

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this employee mindset. 
There's a lot of security in an 

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employer having somebody there 
that's going to take care of you

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and offer you benefits. 
And we've got your back until 

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they fire you and you're 
standing there. 

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Like I got fired as well. 
Like I'm losing my job to yes or

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sorry. 
We don't have funding for you 

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next year. 
Good luck. 

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And now you're like, oh Mom, 
this isn't my mommy. 

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And my daddy, they are taking 
care of me. 

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I am on my own. 
And so that mindset shift is 

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something that can be given to 
you, because you've been quiet 

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and you're like, oh, okay, or 
it's something that you can 

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begin to cultivate. 
So, kind of, can you describe to

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me what an employee mindset is 
versus kind of this breaking? 

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How to break free from that 
mentality and go. 

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I know my worth, I'm going to 
start kind of exercising this 

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muscle of nurse Consulting for 
myself, just an example. 

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Over 10 years ago, I was 
researching opening a CNA, 

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School. 
I've always wanted to work for 

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myself in some way. 
I've always been interested in 

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business. 
I went to the Chamber of 

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Commerce. 
I talked about getting business 

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grants, I talked about funding, 
I made a business plan, on 

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opening my CNA school, I even 
toward locations. 

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And you know what happened? 
I started asking what if what if

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no one in rolls? 
What if I spend all this money 

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and get a loan on equipment and 
a Analyse and I can't pay it. 

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What if I can't pay myself? 
What if I don't make exactly the

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amount? 
Mount then I need to make every 

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two weeks I realized I wouldn't 
be getting a paycheck. 

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There wouldn't be guaranteed 
money anymore and I quit, I let 

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it go. 
I never looked at it again. 

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00:22:47,900 --> 00:22:51,800
I dropped it right there because
I was the breadwinner and I knew

452
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,900
the what ifs might come true. 
I might not make enough money. 

453
00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,100
So for 10 years, I worried that 
I wouldn't make enough money to 

454
00:23:00,100 --> 00:23:04,000
replace my director of nursing 
salary, which my first director 

455
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,800
of nursing salary was $25 an 
hour. 

456
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,700
Okay, so my daughter is teen and
makes almost that working in the

457
00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:13,300
kitchen at the resort by our 
house. 

458
00:23:13,300 --> 00:23:16,200
Okay, so here is the dead 
serious. 

459
00:23:16,500 --> 00:23:22,000
So I thought gosh, I won't make 
enough money to replace my $25 

460
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:25,500
an hour and we'll go under what 
will happen, will die will 

461
00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:27,400
shrivel up, will be honest, 
right? 

462
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,100
So all that time, I would not 
let go of that guaranteed 

463
00:23:31,100 --> 00:23:36,100
paycheck, 10 years, right? 
So I'm forced, that is pride for

464
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:39,000
my hands on I'm fired. 
I am forced to let it go. 

465
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:43,700
I'm forced to let go of my CEO 
salary of two hundred fifty 

466
00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:46,400
thousand dollars a year and I'm 
like I will never be able to 

467
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,400
replace this with another job. 
Every job I looked at was 

468
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,600
hundred thousand dollars, right?
Which would have been great in 

469
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,300
any other setting but for what I
had just committed to for the 

470
00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:59,300
next 12 months and moved my 
entire family across the ocean. 

471
00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:01,400
It wasn't enough, it wouldn't 
even pay rent. 

472
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,100
I mean so why are you so 
expensive right? 

473
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,500
Always right right. 
Yeah. 

474
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:11,000
Moral of this whole story is had
I let go of my guaranteed 

475
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,200
paycheck, 10 years ago, I could 
have been charging two hundred 

476
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,700
fifty dollars, an hour like I 
did last year. 

477
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,700
You know. 
So it's like these these these 

478
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:24,000
things that we hold onto for 
security that employers 

479
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,100
supporting us that quote, 
unquote guaranteed paycheck. 

480
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,600
Hey guys, and thanks for 
listening to another episode 

481
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,700
that Doctrine was podcast 
unscripted. 

482
00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:33,800
I would like to take this time 
to let you guys know about the 

483
00:24:33,808 --> 00:24:36,800
doctor nurse podcast website on 
this website. 

484
00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:39,700
Site, I have free resources for 
nurses that are looking to up 

485
00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:41,700
their career, maybe start a side
hustle. 

486
00:24:41,900 --> 00:24:46,000
I also have my Etsy shop where 
I've created really cute digital

487
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,300
downloads for nurse 
practitioners in regards to 

488
00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:54,500
life, pregnancy planning, as 
well as portraits guys, check 

489
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:59,300
out my resources, the doctors 
podcast.com and let's get back 

490
00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:01,200
to the episode. 
Yeah, I got guaranteed a 

491
00:25:01,208 --> 00:25:04,300
paycheck for five whole weeks 
and then they guaranteed me. 

492
00:25:04,300 --> 00:25:06,800
Not they gave me nothing. 
Yeah. 

493
00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:10,700
So it's like this guarantee that
we think we got a paycheck. 

494
00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:13,600
I think the pandemic in some 
ways really opened a lot of eyes

495
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,000
with this, even the travel 
nurses, getting their pay 

496
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:19,000
changed, right? 
Like oh sorry, the rest of your 

497
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,200
contract is at a thousand 
dollars a week because we don't 

498
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:23,500
have the five thousand dollars a
week. 

499
00:25:23,500 --> 00:25:25,900
We guaranteed you. 
Oh, we don't have any more hours

500
00:25:25,900 --> 00:25:28,400
for you because there is no 
Hazard pay or what were the 

501
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,000
situation is. 
Like, it's at their convenience 

502
00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:35,400
and as a person who has a 
business, I realized that now to

503
00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:38,700
I have to do what I have to do. 
So if I don't have hours I don't

504
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:41,900
have powers, right? 
So it's like when you are an 

505
00:25:41,900 --> 00:25:46,000
employee, you are completely 
subject to whatever makes that 

506
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,500
business Thrive. 
So one thing I realized looking 

507
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:52,300
back and I had a coach who 
challenged me to do this she 

508
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:56,400
said what would you have been 
paid if you are a consultant for

509
00:25:56,700 --> 00:25:58,800
a company that you did something
amazing for? 

510
00:25:59,100 --> 00:26:03,500
Well for me I had six hundred 
and sixty thousand dollars in 

511
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:07,600
six months of time and agency 
labor that I Emanated from a 

512
00:26:07,608 --> 00:26:10,400
hospital where I was the 
director of nursing, right? 

513
00:26:10,500 --> 00:26:13,000
Guess how much of that six 
hundred and sixty thousand 

514
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,300
dollars I got for doing that 
guess how much they gave me for 

515
00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:19,400
doing that zero dollars and zero
cents? 

516
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,600
Guess how much of that I would 
have gotten as a consultant. 

517
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:27,400
Let's be generous will say over 
six months, I charged ten 

518
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,600
percent. 
Right. 

519
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,900
Which is is high, I probably 
wouldn't charge 10% of an 

520
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:34,000
outcome depending on how big the
problem was. 

521
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:36,700
That would have been 66 thousand
dollars. 

522
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:38,900
For six months, for one 
contract. 

523
00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:42,500
And I didn't even do anything 
extra above and beyond what I 

524
00:26:42,500 --> 00:26:46,700
knew how to do as a director, 
just my experience from knowing 

525
00:26:46,700 --> 00:26:49,100
like, hey this is the positions 
we have open. 

526
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:52,200
Here's what I need to do, we got
to get creative, we need to 

527
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,800
limit our overtime, what's 
causing it drilling down into 

528
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,800
the problem. 
So any problem you're solving 

529
00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,000
for your organization, you could
be solving as a consultant and 

530
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:05,100
actually getting the money for 
solving it. 

531
00:27:05,100 --> 00:27:09,700
Instead of doing the Work of an 
Envy because organizations no, 

532
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:12,600
please cannot fix problems for 
the organization. 

533
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,300
Wait and that again. 
So if you're an employee and you

534
00:27:16,300 --> 00:27:19,100
go to work and you're doing, 
you're working, you're not 

535
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:21,600
fixing problems. 
They know hiring another 

536
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:26,000
director of nursing isn't going 
to fix the problem with turnover

537
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,500
for directors of nursing. 
So, if there is a company and 

538
00:27:29,500 --> 00:27:32,500
they're like, we've had 10 
directors of nursing this year, 

539
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:36,500
none of them have been able to 
reduce our wounds, none of them 

540
00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:39,500
have been Unable to fix our 
surveys, none of them have been 

541
00:27:39,500 --> 00:27:43,500
able to reduce our turnover. 
An outside person can come in 

542
00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:46,000
and do that because they're not 
your employee, they do not do 

543
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,400
the day-to-day. 
They do not have a full workload

544
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,800
on their plate, all right, got 
that? 

545
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,000
Yes, it's true. 
Because you're seeing patients, 

546
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,400
you're doing whatever. 
You're taking care of people, 

547
00:27:56,700 --> 00:28:00,000
you have time to fix the 
problems because you just want 

548
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,000
to survive them and go home. 
And what happens if you don't do

549
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,600
your tasks and see your patients
you get in trouble. 

550
00:28:05,900 --> 00:28:09,300
So you're not going to Time away
from what, you know, you're held

551
00:28:09,300 --> 00:28:14,500
accountable for most people to 
go above and beyond and add 

552
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,500
extra hours for nothing. 
Right. 

553
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,700
Some of us have this natural 
thing that we can actually do as

554
00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:22,100
part of our jobs. 
Like I was talking about with 

555
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,000
reducing agency and over time, 
because I had done that before, 

556
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:26,500
why? 
It was a natural part of what I 

557
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,600
do, but I didn't have to do 
that. 

558
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,500
No other deal. 
When before had done that, they 

559
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:35,100
told me they hadn't been free of
agency in 10 years before I was 

560
00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:37,600
there because he just wants to 
laughs, right? 

561
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,500
I can remember at least 10 years
that we've had full time 

562
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:42,000
traveler. 
She said it could be longer than

563
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,200
that. 
So they had people covering 

564
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,300
full-time roles from the 
mainland because Hawaii is 

565
00:28:47,300 --> 00:28:50,300
really challenged in labor and 
so you have to be really, really

566
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:53,200
intentional to find local staff.
That's good and make sure 

567
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:54,500
they're trained. 
Well, enough because there are a

568
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:57,900
lot of them are new grads or 
from other countries and if you 

569
00:28:57,900 --> 00:29:00,700
don't really give them the extra
training they need and help them

570
00:29:00,700 --> 00:29:02,400
get their licensure, they can't 
work here. 

571
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,400
So yeah, so simply implementing 
a program where we added an 

572
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:11,100
extra Four weeks of training. 
Got us three on island are ends 

573
00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:14,200
from the Philippines who were 
amazing nurses. 

574
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,600
But they were afraid, they 
wouldn't get enough training. 

575
00:29:16,900 --> 00:29:19,200
They were afraid, they'd make a 
mistake, they were afraid. 

576
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,400
They couldn't get their license.
They didn't have contacts to 

577
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,800
reach out to and a normal hiring
manager is going to be like, 

578
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,400
nope. 
See ya, right? 

579
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,400
So we had to stop the process 
and make extra time for them to 

580
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,600
say, hey, you can do this and 
we're going to support you. 

581
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,100
And here's how, here's how we're
going to support you and will 

582
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:37,800
check in every three months. 
It's and make sure you still 

583
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,700
feel comfortable. 
And we'll give you extra 

584
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:42,500
orientation, shifts above and 
beyond to make sure you 

585
00:29:42,500 --> 00:29:45,200
understand will help you submit 
your license with a reference 

586
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,900
letter. 
So that was something that a 

587
00:29:47,900 --> 00:29:52,300
normal employee did not take the
time to do in the past, right? 

588
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:54,400
So those are programs that I 
could take. 

589
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,000
I could Implement that program 
for another organization right 

590
00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,900
now. 
Are you a remote? 

591
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,300
Rural Healthcare System? 
Relying completely on agency as 

592
00:30:04,300 --> 00:30:06,700
a staffing consultant, I can 
help you. 

593
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,300
Eliminate agency, and I'm and 
get all local staff on board. 

594
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:13,900
How does that sound? 
We met we estimated. 

595
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:17,300
I'll save you about 500,000 
dollars every six months. 

596
00:30:17,300 --> 00:30:19,400
At least based on our parent. 
Yeah. 

597
00:30:20,100 --> 00:30:22,900
These are how that that is 
Consulting. 

598
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:25,400
You scale this best slowly, 
right? 

599
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,400
So I remember you telling me 
earlier as well for someone 

600
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,400
that's like, okay? 
But I don't have any experience.

601
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,600
So how do I go in and say, oh I 
can be a nurse consultant. 

602
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,600
Let me show you what I can do 
when I haven't done anything. 

603
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,200
So how do I do that? 
But I remember Remember you 

604
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,600
telling me we were talking 
before the podcast that you 

605
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,000
started off, slow it or lower 
than what you were currently 

606
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,600
charging. 
Now, it's your charging 

607
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,200
astronomical amount but you had,
you say, Hey, listen this 

608
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,000
amount. 
I'm charging now is because I 

609
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,800
want to show you that I can do 
it, and you kind of have to 

610
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,000
start at a lower rate. 
And then once you're able to get

611
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:01,100
some momentum, you quickly scale
up your value and your worth 

612
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,000
through what you charge. 
Right. 

613
00:31:03,100 --> 00:31:05,900
Yes. 
So a little piece onto that 

614
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:08,800
before I Dress. 
That is subcontracting is a 

615
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,500
great way to start. 
So now I subcontract with 

616
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:14,300
several other Consulting 
companies who you can make a 

617
00:31:14,308 --> 00:31:17,100
connection with then and say hey
I'm interested in what you do, 

618
00:31:17,100 --> 00:31:20,600
I'd like to learn more that's it
subcontracting for neurotic 

619
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:26,700
conversation, so subcontracts 
pay 75 to maybe 150 an hour, 

620
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:28,400
okay? 
And the lower range because it's

621
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,800
not your contract. 
You're you're on a team of 

622
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,500
Consultants working on a very 
large crack and they need help, 

623
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:36,600
right? 
They can't manage. 

624
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:40,500
Get without other Consultants 
other experts on the team. 

625
00:31:40,800 --> 00:31:44,000
So sometimes, I'll be on a team 
of 10 or 20, Consultants all 

626
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:46,300
working on, one big, 
implementation, one, big 

627
00:31:46,300 --> 00:31:49,400
contract. 
So they say you've got 40 hours.

628
00:31:49,700 --> 00:31:51,800
However, you spend it, you work 
for yourself. 

629
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,200
Here's what your piece of the 
contract is. 

630
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,500
Here's what your audits or 
you're one of the subcontracts. 

631
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:01,600
I did, I literally just called 
and got off. 

632
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,100
The hospice was switching over 
their insurance providers and 

633
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:09,700
got a new provider number And we
just had 2,000 patients to get 

634
00:32:09,700 --> 00:32:12,400
insurance office on. 
They said you've got 60 hours, 

635
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,100
it's $100 an hour, just call the
insurance company. 

636
00:32:15,100 --> 00:32:19,700
I sat on, hold for about $500. 
Okay, so it's like they just 

637
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:22,900
needed somebody to help get the 
odds and it's to learn patience,

638
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:24,600
right? 
The employees can't do that. 

639
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,800
No employee can can spend their 
whole day getting off Sun, all 

640
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,800
the new patients, so they don't 
lose their revenue. 

641
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,300
They would have lost revenue for
all those patients. 

642
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:36,400
So there are projects out there 
that you can help with. 

643
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,500
Without owning the contractor 
going to get it for yourself and

644
00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:43,300
that's a great way to start. 
But also my first contract, he 

645
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:44,800
told me what he was going to 
pay. 

646
00:32:44,900 --> 00:32:47,700
He said I'll pay you 150 an hour
to help me get accredited. 

647
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:52,300
I didn't say 350, it is, right? 
Like I charged 350 and that's my

648
00:32:52,300 --> 00:32:56,100
bottom line because I woke not 
an established consultant. 

649
00:32:56,100 --> 00:32:59,300
I was exploring an opportunity 
and I was open to it. 

650
00:32:59,300 --> 00:33:01,900
Now, I know I can do it. 
I know what the outcome is, I 

651
00:33:01,908 --> 00:33:04,400
know what the result is, and I 
know how I'm going to do it so I

652
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,600
can go into that conversation. 
Much more. 

653
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,100
I'm fairly but it wasn't always 
like that. 

654
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,100
It's something to see what you 
enjoy and what you want to do 

655
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,900
and what you have a strategy to 
do and what solution you can 

656
00:33:14,900 --> 00:33:19,700
offer and then kind of morph it 
into something that's a package.

657
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:21,800
That's a service that you can 
confidently. 

658
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,000
Say I can help you with 
accreditation. 

659
00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:29,000
Six months $350 an hour or 
25,000 dollars, whatever you 

660
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,000
feel more comfortable with, 
right? 

661
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:36,600
So evolution of yeah. 
Cheering how you? 

662
00:33:36,700 --> 00:33:39,700
In very clearly message, what 
your solution is. 

663
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:42,900
That's it. 
Yeah, thing you have to know, 

664
00:33:42,900 --> 00:33:46,100
you can't be like, hey, I'm a 
consultant and I will help you 

665
00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:47,900
with anything you have for me to
do. 

666
00:33:48,100 --> 00:33:50,100
That's an employment, your 
company. 

667
00:33:50,100 --> 00:33:54,300
You have to know what you 
provide to accompany, right? 

668
00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:57,200
And a lot of times, just looking
back over what you've already 

669
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,500
done is enough for a lot of 
people to see when I show up, 

670
00:34:01,500 --> 00:34:07,100
people always say XYZ or I 
always get complimented on On 

671
00:34:07,300 --> 00:34:12,800
ABC or one my priority when I 
walk into a new place, the first

672
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,800
thing I'm going to do it. 
Bam, maybe that's his specialty.

673
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:18,199
That is so good, man. 
So many nuggets. 

674
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,900
You're dropping. 
What is the hardest part of 

675
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:22,500
owning your own business? 
Launching? 

676
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:26,400
This whole thing just branching 
off your heart of Health Care 

677
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,500
Solutions, what has been the 
hardest part of owning your own 

678
00:34:30,500 --> 00:34:34,699
business and kind of being out 
into this new role has been, I 

679
00:34:34,699 --> 00:34:36,600
think kind of what you've 
alluded to already. 

680
00:34:36,699 --> 00:34:38,699
Eddie part of it is 
self-discipline. 

681
00:34:38,699 --> 00:34:41,600
It's really tough because I'm 
the boss of me. 

682
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:45,000
And you know, this guy runs a 
real loose ship type of thing, 

683
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:47,600
you know, right. 
I don't wake up in the morning, 

684
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:51,500
I don't schedule calls early in 
the morning at all first call is

685
00:34:51,500 --> 00:34:53,900
not before nine because I will 
not make a phone call. 

686
00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:56,400
Okay? 
Yeah, so figuring out like what 

687
00:34:56,400 --> 00:35:01,500
I need to be able to be 
productive and also creating 

688
00:35:01,500 --> 00:35:05,000
boundaries with more hours does 
not equal more success, or more 

689
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,100
money. 
And that's a trick that Employee

690
00:35:07,100 --> 00:35:08,700
trick. 
If you want to pick up an extra 

691
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:11,700
shift, we're going to give you a
hundred dollar bonus pay, and 

692
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:15,300
we're going to give you $50 an 
hour and you're like, I'm going 

693
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:17,800
to pick up that shift. 
It does not work like that in 

694
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,400
business. 
Truly less is more, the more you

695
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,800
extend yourself and overextend 
yourself, the less you bring to 

696
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,200
the table. 
So, for me, that's been a 

697
00:35:25,207 --> 00:35:29,400
mindset shift where I will find 
myself working and working. 

698
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,900
My kids get off at 2:00, Monday 
through Thursday and really, I 

699
00:35:32,900 --> 00:35:35,600
know in my brain after two. 
I'm not going to get anything 

700
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:36,500
done. 
I can't. 

701
00:35:36,700 --> 00:35:38,400
Have any calls. 
They're going to come in, 

702
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,900
they're going to want my 
attention, they're gonna want a 

703
00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,300
snack. 
They're going to be bouncing off

704
00:35:41,300 --> 00:35:45,800
the walls and doing handstands, 
so it's like for snacks. 

705
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:52,000
Okay, good. 
Going to be on my work and I'm 

706
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,500
not going to be productive. 
So right now, I work only while 

707
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:58,000
my kids are at school so I work 
from 8:00 to 2:00 Monday through

708
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,900
Thursday, and I work from 8:00 
to noon, sometimes on Friday, 

709
00:36:01,900 --> 00:36:04,600
depending on what's going on 
last Friday, I didn't work at 

710
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,800
all. 
So yesterday, Yesterday was on 

711
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,800
Friday but yeah. 
So I did not work. 

712
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:14,200
So it really looks like does 
working until 7:00 to sitting 

713
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,800
and staring off at my laptop 
with 42 tabs. 

714
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,900
Open really look like 
productivity and really bring in

715
00:36:19,900 --> 00:36:22,600
income. 
I've had to really focus My Mind

716
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,700
Set On what is an 
income-generating activity for 

717
00:36:25,700 --> 00:36:27,500
me. 
What is a Time? 

718
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:30,400
Suck for me, right? 
I even had a Content calendar. 

719
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,500
One time, they had a green 
Post-It, note, and anything you 

720
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:36,000
were going to do that. 
Brought in money was a green 

721
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,200
Post-It note. 
This is going to bring in money,

722
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,300
and if you've got a red Post-It 
note, that's like social media 

723
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,400
covering up a green Post-It 
note, you better take that red 

724
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,400
one off for that day, no more. 
So it's really focusing on what 

725
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,100
is actually moving my business 
forward and what is actually 

726
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:54,900
bringing me down. 
Where's my energy at, with what 

727
00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:56,800
I'm doing? 
That's been really hard for me 

728
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,200
because I have been in this 
employee mindset. 

729
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,900
This corporate leadership 
mindset for 15 years, where more

730
00:37:02,900 --> 00:37:06,600
is more and right now more is 
just heavier from the hall. 

731
00:37:06,900 --> 00:37:09,400
That is so good. 
That's the part of got the quote

732
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,900
that part because it's more is 
heavier. 

733
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:15,200
Oh yeah, totally aligned with 
that one of my coaches said, 

734
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:20,300
only a fool ways value in pounds
and so it's more is not more 

735
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,500
more, is just heavier to carry 
sometimes. 

736
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,800
So I've really been trying to 
scale back on what I expect of 

737
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,000
myself. 
I expect too much. 

738
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:33,000
So I've really had to do a lot 
of personal reflection on where 

739
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,200
I find Value and where I'm just 
performing. 

740
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:38,600
Well, Because I feel guilt it 
into it because I feel like I 

741
00:37:38,607 --> 00:37:41,700
have to, I should be doing this.
I try not to show it on myself 

742
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:43,400
anymore. 
That's really smart. 

743
00:37:43,700 --> 00:37:46,200
I don't know, either. 
You should be doing this. 

744
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,100
You should be doing that. 
I know what I should be doing. 

745
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,700
So I've had to have a lot of 
compassion for myself in that 

746
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:55,000
way. 
Oh my gosh, this journey has 

747
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,800
been so cool like that. 
I mean, ugly, that's the hardest

748
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,900
part of owning your own business
is, don't shit on yourself. 

749
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:06,600
Like I just again, more is not 
more like, finding the things. 

750
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,000
That you know, are going to 
actually bring value. 

751
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:12,300
And it was so funny because I 
just got offered another collab.

752
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:16,000
Hey Sandra, let's add on 
something and I went and again, 

753
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,200
my next reaction was just yes, 
you know. 

754
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,500
And I was like stop. 
Stop it. 

755
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:25,400
And I mean, I just hugged it. 
Now you've got a lot and so I 

756
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:29,500
had to say, no, I had to say no 
good for you, and so that was 

757
00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:32,900
hard. 
Yeah, yeah, but you just said 

758
00:38:32,900 --> 00:38:36,600
just reverberates with My Soul 
of like, she's right, like that.

759
00:38:36,700 --> 00:38:40,600
That work is so hard to just go 
know if it doesn't move the 

760
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,600
needle on my business. 
I don't need to do that. 

761
00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:46,700
But what's really important to 
recognize is that I did not come

762
00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:50,200
to these conclusions alone. 
These were not things that I 

763
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,000
just realized. 
One day I have paid for coaching

764
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,500
as I'm like. 
Okay, I need to invest in this 

765
00:38:56,500 --> 00:38:59,400
business being a real business. 
There is no plan B for me. 

766
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:01,400
This is it, this is what I'm 
doing. 

767
00:39:01,700 --> 00:39:04,600
I've had to invest in that. 
I have skin in the game. 

768
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:08,600
These coaches that I have paid 
Help me develop my business are 

769
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,500
the ones who are telling me you 
seem like you're hustling for 

770
00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:13,900
this really hard. 
And is that the kind of business

771
00:39:13,900 --> 00:39:16,200
you're trying to have where you 
hustle for the rest of your life

772
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:17,900
like you have for the last 15 
years? 

773
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,600
Like challenge account bright, 
call me out. 

774
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,800
I had one of them say something 
they see it on your face like 

775
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,700
even Zoom call you out and say, 
you seem like you're really 

776
00:39:27,700 --> 00:39:31,000
overwhelmed right now and really
in a negative place like just 

777
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:32,700
bam. 
Okay I am. 

778
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:37,100
Yeah so I wasn't coming to all 
these golden nuggets along Alone

779
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,200
sometimes we cannot do that 
internally. 

780
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,900
I was not in a place where I 
knew enough about business to do

781
00:39:41,900 --> 00:39:44,500
that for myself. 
And I was also in a place of 

782
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:48,900
deep recovery where I had been 
hurt and crushed and could not 

783
00:39:48,900 --> 00:39:53,000
even see the possibility. 
I did not see the possibility of

784
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,900
being fired turning into having 
my own business which I had 

785
00:39:55,900 --> 00:40:01,300
dreamed of for 15 years. 
So sometimes we need to realize 

786
00:40:01,300 --> 00:40:05,500
that we need help and I know a 
lot of the times nurses and just

787
00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:07,800
people in general I like I'm not
paying for that. 

788
00:40:07,900 --> 00:40:11,600
Well, then don't expect to get 
to where that person is because 

789
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:15,400
they have paid for that. 
They have invested in those 

790
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,600
things are the things that have 
given me, the ideas for the 

791
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,200
things I'm talking about. 
So sometimes we can't generate 

792
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,600
that alone without help from the
outside man, that is so 

793
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,500
poignant. 
That is so poignant and 

794
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:30,600
beautifully said, and again, I 
think nurses need to hear that 

795
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,700
the best money you can spend is 
not in stuff. 

796
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:39,600
It's not in, Sometimes even 
investing in other things, it 

797
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,100
can be like, oh, I bought a real
estate property or I bought this

798
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:43,500
or that like sometimes that's 
not it. 

799
00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:46,700
Sometimes, the best thing you 
can do is just invest in 

800
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:49,900
yourself. 
Filling up, your skills are 

801
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:52,400
building up your mindset, or 
changing your mindset around 

802
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,000
something because that other 
stuff comes down the road 

803
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:56,800
because you've changed the way 
you look at things. 

804
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,700
And yeah, I think that is so 
well, said not. 

805
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:04,100
And again, for a nurse that's 
like, all right, I'm sold. 

806
00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:06,500
I want to know what she's doing.
I want to get involved. 

807
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:09,100
You need to help me. 
She's blowing my mind right now.

808
00:41:09,100 --> 00:41:12,400
I want her to coach me. 
I want her to teach me how to do

809
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:16,500
something for myself starting. 
Small subcontract work, 

810
00:41:16,500 --> 00:41:19,000
whatever. 
Where can they find you? 

811
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,100
How can your business help 
nurses? 

812
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:23,400
Because that's one of the things
that I like having coaches on. 

813
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,700
But I really want them to 
explain specifically how they 

814
00:41:27,700 --> 00:41:30,500
can help the nurse that is 
listening to this podcast a 

815
00:41:30,508 --> 00:41:32,700
nurse practitioner, that's like,
for the d0n. 

816
00:41:32,700 --> 00:41:36,200
That's like, I want to get 
involving Consulting, like I'm 

817
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,300
sick of this. 
This everything I'm doing, I'm 

818
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:40,200
doing from my own personal 
experience. 

819
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,700
So I don't speak about things 
that I don't know about. 

820
00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:46,100
So anything that I'm sharing 
with any nurse and it has much 

821
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:50,700
as I can provide that for free 
without over-committing myself, 

822
00:41:50,700 --> 00:41:52,600
I want to do that to help 
nurses. 

823
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,400
I want nurses to see these 
Endless Possibilities that are 

824
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,200
literally, all they have to do 
is let go. 

825
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:04,300
So I had this control issue. 
So I have a Facebook group for 

826
00:42:04,900 --> 00:42:07,200
nurses that want to be 
self-employed and Entrepreneurs 

827
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,900
and come in Impact as your own 
boss and I think it's self 

828
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:12,300
employed nurses and coming 
impact as your own boss on 

829
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:15,600
Facebook, I started the nurses 
Making Waves podcast which is an

830
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,900
experiment from me and thank you
for all of your help and support

831
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:21,400
with that you're amazing. 
You are definitely some of the 

832
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,400
inspiration behind that. 
So I have on their nurses to 

833
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,400
talk about their own this, how 
they got started, what their 

834
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,200
challenges are. 
And then I have the impact and 

835
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,100
income coaching program that is 
essentially, if you're like, I'm

836
00:42:33,100 --> 00:42:35,100
very serious about starting a 
business. 

837
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:39,500
I need a strategy I Need a 
proven process that is going to 

838
00:42:39,500 --> 00:42:42,500
work if I implement it and 
that's a 12-week program. 

839
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:45,600
So there's recorded content that
you can access forever. 

840
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,300
But again, I also realized that 
that doesn't work for everyone. 

841
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:51,800
So we do have weekly calls where
we talk about how to get through

842
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,100
those areas, where we get stuck 
and it helps me to. 

843
00:42:55,100 --> 00:42:57,700
And we hear each other stories 
where we're stuck, what we need 

844
00:42:57,700 --> 00:42:59,900
to do? 
Give each other inspiration and 

845
00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:02,200
encouragement. 
So that's really been amazing. 

846
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,600
I also have the 40 Consulting 
specialty areas. 

847
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,600
It's just literally, List. 
It's a Word document of over 40 

848
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:13,100
different areas that you could 
consult in as a nurse. 

849
00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:17,000
And that is in that Facebook 
group that you can go and find 

850
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,300
in the free resources section. 
Wow, that's fantastic. 

851
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,100
It's one of those things that 
when you see that things are 

852
00:43:23,100 --> 00:43:25,800
being offered to you and you 
don't take advantage of them, 

853
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,600
can't be mad. 
If things don't change for you, 

854
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,100
I get people on my DMs or 
they'll send me messages. 

855
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:33,900
Like, I don't know where to 
start and I don't know if I can,

856
00:43:34,100 --> 00:43:36,900
you know, that seems easy for 
you to say and I'm like, Like 

857
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:39,900
it's not easy for me to say, 
actually it's super hard for me 

858
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:42,800
to say you don't realize what 
we've gone through you and I 

859
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,200
differ from yours. 
But nurses to get to this point 

860
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,900
where we're like no no we need 
to break free from this. 

861
00:43:47,900 --> 00:43:51,300
How do we get free? 
And it's only through the hard 

862
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,600
crucibles of fire that we go 
through that, we become these 

863
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,600
Phoenix rising. 
And I just want more nurses to 

864
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,100
see. 
You don't have to have that 

865
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:04,300
employee mindset that you can 
set yourself free and you don't 

866
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:06,500
have to go who's is and quit 
your job. 

867
00:44:06,700 --> 00:44:09,500
Do this radical thing, but you 
can slowly build. 

868
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,800
You can slowly grow and you can 
slowly pull yourself from that 

869
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,000
superglue. 
Magnetism that employers have 

870
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,800
over nurses and just so 
connection. 

871
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:22,400
If you can't quit your job to 
start making connections with 

872
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,400
people, you want to work with or
companies. 

873
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,000
You'd let you just start making 
connections with the right kind 

874
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,400
of people connect with me 
connect with you. 

875
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,000
Those are the kind of things 
that are really important. 

876
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,800
Yeah, no 100% agreement. 
Like just went out and that's 

877
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,400
not gonna that's fine, it'll 
come up on the you YouTube video

878
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,600
but you can still see me or my 
super shiny light just went out.

879
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,400
But anyway, yes, that is well 
said and I agree. 

880
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,900
Just start your network is your 
net worth. 

881
00:44:46,900 --> 00:44:49,600
So the more people you are 
supposed to the more things that

882
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,100
you see on the more exposure 
that you have your just like 

883
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,100
huh. 
Okay well then I don't have to 

884
00:44:56,107 --> 00:44:59,400
keep this sealer review. 
There's so many more things that

885
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,300
I've been exposed to the podcast
is done that. 

886
00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:04,100
You have these conversations 
with nursing on your podcast and

887
00:45:04,100 --> 00:45:07,200
so you're like, whoa, I didn't 
even know they were Mother nurse

888
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,500
that went through the same thing
that came to the different 

889
00:45:09,500 --> 00:45:12,500
results or whatever. 
It's just really beautiful and 

890
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:15,000
we all do that. 
So again, thank you for your 

891
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:16,900
time today. 
Thanks for coming on the podcast

892
00:45:16,900 --> 00:45:19,400
and sharing everything with me. 
I feel like we should do another

893
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:21,800
rapid fire because I did rapid 
fire with you before. 

894
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:25,100
So let's do like a rapid-fire to
close it out the worst at these.

895
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:25,900
All right. 
Go ahead. 

896
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,900
If you could pick a character to
play you on a TV show. 

897
00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:30,900
Who would it be? 
I already know who, I think you 

898
00:45:30,900 --> 00:45:33,700
should have play. 
You really just like I just 

899
00:45:33,700 --> 00:45:36,400
wanna like, see like what you 
say, play me on. 

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00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:39,400
A TV show who's the one that's 
in the note with, with Ryan 

901
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:40,800
Gosling. 
I like her. 

902
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,900
Oh yeah, yeah, Rachel, no 
McAdams, Emma Stone. 

903
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:49,900
Yes, you gonna do McAdams? 
Yes, okay, yeah, it'll go 

904
00:45:49,900 --> 00:45:52,600
totally. 
So, okay, I know, I'm just going

905
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:53,900
to say this, but you totally 
look. 

906
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:56,200
Like, Ashley Graham. 
Have you seen her before? 

907
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:57,400
Yeah. 
You look like her. 

908
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,200
She's beautiful. 
Yeah, I'll take that. 

909
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,000
Yeah. 
Like a supermodel, right? 

910
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,700
Like, she's so beautiful. 
And every time I look at you I'm

911
00:46:03,700 --> 00:46:07,100
like just like Ashley Graham 
like you totally Like her. 

912
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:12,700
Let me tell you that and if you 
had to give someone a book you 

913
00:46:12,700 --> 00:46:16,000
read, which would it be Think 
and Grow Rich Napoleon Hill? 

914
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:19,100
Oh, that's a solid Choice 
thinking for a change. 

915
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:21,900
John Maxwell. 
Oh yeah to John Maxwell's. 

916
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:25,600
Good. 
He's Solid 2 and 0 just for I 

917
00:46:25,607 --> 00:46:27,400
think I know this. 
I think I know this answer. 

918
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:28,400
No, I don't think I know this 
answer. 

919
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,300
I know a lot about your life, 
but I don't know about this. 

920
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:34,700
What was your first job? 
Your very first Subway, baby 

921
00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:40,500
sandwich maker. 
What is their slogan, your way 

922
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:43,800
out of fresh from me, by the 
way, that should have been a 

923
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,100
sign. 
Guys, check her out. 

924
00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,200
I'll link all her stuff in the 
show notes again. 

925
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,100
Thank you so much for your time,
and your energy, and just your 

926
00:46:51,100 --> 00:46:53,700
outpouring of love for nurses. 
It just inspiring. 

927
00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:55,800
It's lifted, my wigs. 
You give me Wind Beneath My 

928
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:56,700
Wings. 
Thank you. 

929
00:46:56,700 --> 00:46:57,900
I love that. 
She's so much. 

930
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,100
All right, guys, enjoy the 
journey of your careers. 

931
00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:09,300
Gee Mom, Dad. 
I love you mama. 

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00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:14,100
So that's a wrap. 
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00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:23,400
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00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,400
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00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,000
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00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,900
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944
00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:52,100
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945
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,900
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00:47:55,900 --> 00:47:38,700
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00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:41,800
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949
00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:47,400
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950
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,400
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951
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,900
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952
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