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Welcome to the doctor nurse 
podcast. 

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I'm your host, dr. 
Sandra contenta. 

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I'm a doctor, Lee prepared nurse
practitioner. 

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And I am so glad you decided to 
join me today. 

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The doctor nurse podcast is a 
podcast for nurses and nurse 

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practitioners that are wanting 
to understand what exactly their

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degrees can do for them. 
After the birth of my son, I had

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this baking desire to have more 
flexibility in my career 

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choices. 
Despite feeling like all the 

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alphabet soup, after my name 
didn't really afford me. 

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Me very many options, I launched
the podcast to find the answers 

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that I, so desperately needed. 
I also knew I couldn't be the 

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only nurse who felt this way. 
This is sound like you, if so, 

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come and hang out with me as I 
figure out what our nursing 

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degrees can give us access to as
far as career flexibility 

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control over our schedules and 
Entrepreneurship my talking with

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NPCs and our friends who are 
doing exactly that. 

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Sit back and enjoy the 
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Doctor nurse podcast, fam. 
Welcome to the doctor nurse 

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podcast. 
I'm so happy that you decided to

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join me today. 
Today we are talking with Nick 

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Loper. 
He helps people earn money 

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outside of their day jobs. 
He's an author, an online 

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entrepreneur, and the host of 
the award-winning show side 

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hustle, Show podcast which 
features new part-time business 

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ideas, each week as Chief side 
Hustler at the side, hustle 

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nation.com, he loves 
deconstructing the tactics and 

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strategies behind building. 
Income, which you guys know, if 

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you've been listening to my 
podcast at all that I'm All 

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About It. 
Welcome Nick. 

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To the point of view of Beth, 
thanks for having me. 

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I'm so excited to talk to you 
today. 

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I can't even contain it. 
I first wanted to just kind of 

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have you describe to my 
listeners kind of your story? 

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How you see yourself kind of 
what you envision or you kind of

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how you see your role in 
day-to-day life? 

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Oh my gosh. 
Well, husband and father, first 

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and foremost, and then outside 
of that been doing this podcast 

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for like 10 years and And that's
just nuts to me. 

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It started as a 60 dollar Mike 
when the corner of the living 

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room and like videos, anybody 
got a tune into this stuff and 

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it has I mean it was completely 
life-changing experiment took a 

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long time to be fair, but it's 
been an absolute blast to kind 

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of source and share these 
incredible side, hustle stories 

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and that's what most of it is me
point in the mic at other people

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and saying, well, how'd you come
up with that idea? 

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How do you build that, how'd you
get customers for that? 

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How'd you figure out how much to
charge? 

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How did you grow that thing? 
All that stuff was driven by my 

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curiosity in the early days and 
it was fascinating and it still 

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is now 550 something episodes 
later runnable. 

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So yeah. 
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your podcast and then I wanted 
to do my own research and so I 

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bought your book beside house 
all which I just love, I read 

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it, I love it, I think it's 
fantastic. 

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It's a really great place to 
start for someone that's looking

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to generate a thousand dollars, 
a month, or more from From work 

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in a side game on your off time 
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practitioners, a lot of us, do 
shift work and so we have time 

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off. 
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through different conversations 
Nick is that when nurses get 

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quiet and they spend a little 
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souls talk to them. 
They start creating, and there 

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have been able to create some 
really incredible businesses and

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Merchandising product type 
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And a lot of stuff that's been 
really neat on top of using our 

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nursing skills to create, you 
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healthcare related businesses as
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So I thought we could chat a 
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If you wouldn't mind kind of 
describe how a nurse can get 

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started with a side hustle and 
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someone if they were like, all 
right, Nick, I want to jump into

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the side hustle game. 
Where do I even start? 

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Yeah. 
So the common advice is to, you 

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know, draw that ideal Venn 
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box. 
Your Hobbies and interests to 

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the next box. 
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can pay to do and you know, what
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the magical overlapping Center 
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side. 
Hustle for you and we found is 

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for a lot of people, there's no 
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It's like, well my skills are 
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And like what people would pay 
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other Circle? 
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And so instead, I think it makes
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and problems and actually just 
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With a friend of mine, I'm just 
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Brain dump. 
Like, look, here's, you know, a 

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couple dozen business ideas is 
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world that you could start like.
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out of our own pains and 
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to sign up for summer camps or, 
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pet discouragement service. 
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dog. 
I want the service that like has

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a really difficult to train dog 
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hard this is actually going to 
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So just throwing out ideas that 
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lot of them born from pains and 
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be a little more optimistic. 
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put on your, your pessimist hat 
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the annoyances that happened in 
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that your spouse or partner is 
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everything, your kids are 
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everything, your peers, 
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Like you start to pick up on, 
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griping about this thing or this
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Me and then you can turn is 
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Like that's what I typically 
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pain go away like something like
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off our bathroom. 
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probably better spent so like 
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finding like somebody else could
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couple hours. 
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those pains and problems is 
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I think it's easier to sell 
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pain pills in. 
It is to sell vitamins, right? 

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Like I want to My back, my back 
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I need this to stop right now 
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prevent this from happening in 
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Like that's it's not urgent yet,
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side, little bit easier to get 
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cool. 
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describing and what I talked a 
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closers. 
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to be filled, finding a problem 
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attention to the world around 
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We See these things happening, 
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to finding simple problems. 
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inventors that have again, come 
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able to, you know, invent things
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describing of a problem. 
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just like, Hey listen. 
I want to start, you know, 

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possibly a coaching business or,
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wrote down a bunch of things 
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hustle as a nurse. 
And so we talked about Nurse 

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writer nurse blogger nurse. 
Cast YouTube, digital products 

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merchandise. 
There's a lot of things that you

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can get into as a nurse and one 
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nurses are also super interested
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which I actually feel like is 
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chasing, that doesn't exist 
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to be managed. 
I don't think that you ever get 

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away with just something 
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You have to have your hand in 
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It's just a matter of how much 
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time do you have to put in the 
foreign to kind of get that 

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passivity in the back end? 
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a nurse? 
That's like, okay, so I hear you

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find a find a problem, fix it. 
How do I then get that to 

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continue to pay me and and not 
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all the time? 
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a myth? 
That's something that doesn't 

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exist. 
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That's one of the great debates 
of online business like is these

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passive income real and it's 
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was thinking about this in the 
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don't get paid all the That's 
knocks. 

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Yeah. 
All the best parts coming to 

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shower. 
Get paid while I'm working. 

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So I can get paid. 
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It is like this. 
Got another weird backwards 

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Paradox, but, yeah, it's like 
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So, passive income comes in. 
Probably four different flavors.

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Right there is the, you know, I 
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asset. 
I can buy a rental house or I 

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can buy a dividend paying stock,
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Problem is takes money to make 
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The other option is like, well, 
I can go out and build a passive

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income or an income-generating 
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that you create one, sell it 
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I think that one is probably the
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startup costs, like not a lot of
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to go out and try and build this
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And we talk about different 
marketing channels for those 

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passive income method. 
Number three is to, like, rent 

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out an asset that you already 
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had a guy, High School teacher, 
who is running out portable hot 

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tubs. 
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fascinating because he sent me a
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He's like, Nick, you talked 
about Out some unconventional 

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rental business. 
Like maybe it's guy had like a 

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bounce house you know inflatable
party business or something. 

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Yeah he's like I got one for 
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I do hot tubs like hot tubs. 
Like how does that work? 

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You know how we keep them. 
He's like, dude, I you know I've

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got a fleet of like 25 of these 
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you know. 
And he had this whole formula or

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you buy them used for this price
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per week or per month. 
It's like super cool. 

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Yeah, this whole mess is for 
sanitizing. 

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I mean so that was number three,
kind of like renting out this 

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asset like another way. 
Get paid over and over again in 

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his wasn't totally passive 
because it's like, well, I gotta

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go deliver this thing. 
I got to set it up for the 

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customer all that. 
And then number four, we be 

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reverse passive income. 
Like what are the expenses that 

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I can cut out the recurring 
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save money on a recurring basis?
Those would be the four types of

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passive income. 
But we go back to that, you're 

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creating these digital assets. 
We had John. 

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Hawes on the show, probably like
2016 time frame. 

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You now runs in nursing.com, 
he's like, made some investments

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in this domain. 
Game over the course of several 

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years but he started, I want to 
say what he was, still a nursing

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student, like creating these 
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medications app, like help you 
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medication, solve what problems,
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You know, I gotta study for this
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website on the back of those 
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It could be, you know, around 
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somewhat curious about and I say
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what Jules you to keep going 
when you don't see the immediate

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results right away. 
Yeah, that's what it was for me.

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Some of my best content has come
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First you have a quiz online 

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that I love, I took the quiz on 
your website. 

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Where basically you, you asked a
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what you're looking for, from a 
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And then you spit out with this 
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be doing based on what you've 
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for which I thought was really 
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start for nurse. 
That's may be wondering, what 

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I agree with is sometimes your 
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shouldn't be in what you do. 
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wanting to do something else. 
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bedside in droves, we are going 
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having a We had a nursing crisis
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anymore, the joy and the love of
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I don't want to do any more and 
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working. 
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that more and more nurses are 
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which then freeze up that space 
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for you to go and do something 
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enjoy. 
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also feel like What you're 
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talking about. 
Is so poignant because what, if 

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you can go and create something 
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nursing that you're like, I want
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something hot tubs, and you're a
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like, why not, why not? 
And what if that is the balance 

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that strikes, the balance for 
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the door with nursing and not 
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Because again I think a lot of 
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with the with the heart of, I 
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end up doing is we end up 
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it's not conducive to keeping 
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care, is everything. 
I just had a baby two months ago

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the nurse has made the 
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in there for 45 minutes. 
He was gone you know. 

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know, Moment by moment second by
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nurses. 
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but we I think we need to create
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we've got nurses that are you 
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not Deficit you know so that's 
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Yeah because lnt nurses so like 
their suggest. 

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Yeah, they're saying it. 
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like well they're the only 
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They get to like work with happy
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Like people who are excited to 
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It's like oh I never thought of 
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patients require like that are 
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appointment. 
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in fear out of getting the shot 
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lady just look. 
It's She just waited while he 

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just throw his tantrum as like, 
oh my gosh, they're so 

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embarrassing. 
But totally like yeah, what do 

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you really want to go? 
So there's lots of service based

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options which, you know, doesn't
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for money predicament but could 
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in, kind of a service-based 
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coaching, maybe it's Consulting.
Maybe it's being a doula, maybe 

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it's doing CPR instructions, 
some of the ideas from your 

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list, but it, you know, it kind 
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They like what I'm more than my 
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to earn Beyond just at the end 
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You got that make sense. 
Yes, 100%! 

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I agree. 
And that's what I found through 

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building my podcast and building
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So, I have an Etsy shop, that 
I've been creating digital 

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content. 
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another company. 
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another company and create 
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information that helps nurses 
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kept the rights over the book so
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on our digital side as well. 
So we're getting a little bit of

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revenue from that. 
And so I'm just kind of building

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up these little streams, kind of
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know that you've got almost 17 
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I mean, something something 
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So, again, I think it would be 
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of added on streams and how you 
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So I'm going to go Take this on 
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struggling with is just the 
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know, this as a dad you know I'm
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for the work that I'm doing 
that, sometimes isn't paid and 

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it's really hard to stay 
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What are some things that you 
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How do you decipher like okay 
I'm getting into this one. 

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I'm not getting to this. 
I'm going to build this or how 

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do you choose what you end up 
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It's so hard and that's, that's 
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Well, what am I, what am I 
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This for like, what's the, 
what's the endgame here? 

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And one of the exercises that 
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they're evaluating different 
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Hustle ideas, like I'm trying to
choose between these five 

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things, like try and project 
out, three to five years of a 

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reasonable degree of success and
you can find somebody who's 

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walked that path and is a little
bit ahead of you and you can 

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kind of see what what is their 
day-to-day look like, are they 

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still putting in 80-hour weeks 
or have? 

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They got a little more time, 
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And if I kind of Of the same 
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success. 
Okay. 

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Would that be a win for me? 
Because a lot of side hustles if

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they're it doesn't scale or some
of them don't scale the way that

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you might. 
Like you're like well I could do

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this today and I might be still 
doing the same thing in three to

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five years. 
And that does that really get me

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where I want to go in the 
answer? 

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Might be. 
No, it's like, okay, I got to 

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try and choose a different path 
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Now I don't want that to Cripple
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the beginning because it's like,
you know, the One of the most 

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common success traits of the 
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Something guess I'll decide I'll
show is, you know, this bias 

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towards action and, you know, 
taking Step 1, even if they 

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didn't know steps 2 through 10 
like, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna

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see what kind of reaction this 
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If it works great, if it 
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Pivot over to this other thing 
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a lot of people get stuck on the
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have people stuck there too. 
It's like there's, you know, 

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there's a benefit from any 
action even if it doesn't. 

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Necessarily generate the results
you were hoping for right away. 

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Yeah, I read that in the last 
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say that's the number one thing 
that all the entrepreneurs just 

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kept saying, repeatedly was 
suggest get started and to not 

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be afraid of taking that shot 
and you can you wrote that, you 

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will figure it. 
So that ends up leading to more 

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opportunities, which is 
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talk about to because it was 
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reached out to this other 
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And I said, hey do you want to 
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This is what it's about and 
through that conversation with 

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him. 
Him. 

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He he and I we recorded a 
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something during the podcast and
he was like, I like that. 

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I want to come back to that and 
I was like, okay. 

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So we came back to it later and 
ended up being the thing that me

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and my girlfriend have been 
creating for the last six months

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for this company has been these 
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literally just from the 
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podcast. 
And so I think it's very true 

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that even though yes, I didn't 
have a plan. 

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I wasn't like oh this is going 
to land me this thing. 

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It did bring about other 
opportunities that were I was 

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able to Actually generate income
from that conversation aside 

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from my podcast so that was one 
of the things that I found 

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really you know kind of cool and
that you kind of right you know 

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starting small these low risk 
side hustles I think are really 

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great because it's just such a 
low bit, such a low barrier to 

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entry and then as long as you 
just kind of keep motivated and 

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keep working at it and you just 
keep trying. 

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I've had this thing where I kind
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I love where it says, you know, 
all were Work leads to 

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something, all toil leads to 
profit. 

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And so when I read that I was 
like, oh so like I can work at 

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something and eventually this 
blind squirrel will find it. 

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Not like that's kind of what I 
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you just have to keep at it. 
And I know that sounds kind of 

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crazy but maybe that's you know,
putting mantras up all over 

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around you so you can just go 
like okay I got to keep going. 

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I got to keep going because I've
been doing a podcast now since 

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it's been two and a Years. 
I've been podcasting my son's 

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almost for I started when he was
maybe six months seven months 

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old. 
So like, yeah, it's been, it's 

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been a grind. 
It's been a struggle there. 

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I don't get paid for this. 
I don't have a, you know, all 

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these different things. 
And so you just have to keep 

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going. 
And then you do have a book 

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correct that you know if a 
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side Hustler is kind of wanting 
the progress with the journal 

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too. 
Kind of Journal through how do I

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keep going you know you offer 
them something as well, correct?

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Yes it. 
Well, different books of the one

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you held up earlier was the 
side, hustles kind of a broad 

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introduction to side hustles. 
You're here are the three main 

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business models product/service,
audience, based businesses that 

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you can start your some examples
under each of those, the 

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progress Journal is kind of my 
personal productivity Journal, 

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it's best if you have something 
that you're working on like I 

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tend to work best in kind of 
like short-term Project based 

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Sprint's or I could set myself a
four-week deadline and I'm 

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actually kind of going back 
through and kind of revisiting 

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the Is very rigid. 
I like here's a four-week you 

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know, projects print and it's 
like, well, if your project 

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takes longer than you know kind 
of it spills over into the next 

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thing. 
It says that you're too kind of 

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a type structure but again, 
that's the progress journal and 

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it kind of tracks the daily 
habits that I know what I'm 

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doing them. 
Consistently, I like feel 

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better. 
Like I feel like I won the day 

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and it's just sometimes some 
simple habits of naming my top 

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three priorities for tomorrow 
night before. 

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And if I check those out and 
like, even if In practice trying

448
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to try to at least check off the
first one before. 

449
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Yeah. 
Going into email and like 

450
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reactive mode. 
Like, okay, I'm going to move 

451
00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:05,400
the ball forward on my own 
agenda and that's huge for side 

452
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Hustlers like, well, we all have
a limited time. 

453
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But if I could carve out a half 
an hour here, 15 minutes, 

454
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they're like just trying to 
build that positive momentum. 

455
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Super, super important is to 
gratitude habit, which is it's 

456
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just, you know, scientifically 
shown to, you know, help you be 

457
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a happier person. 
And then just try to keep an eye

458
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on, you know, what are the What 
are the key metrics in this 

459
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business, in the side hustle, 
and focusing on almost, you 

460
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know, process goals versus 
outcome goals, especially early 

461
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on. 
Like, I'm going to produce the 

462
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podcast versus. 
I'm going to get ten thousand 

463
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listeners. 
So I'm going to, you know, write

464
00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:47,100
500 words for my website versus,
you know, I'm going to get a 

465
00:22:47,108 --> 00:22:49,700
million annual visitors from 
Google or something, like trying

466
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:52,700
to think of what are the process
goals that will eventually lead 

467
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to the outcome. 
Yeah, one thing I was thinking 

468
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about when you were talking was 
about your your son and you have

469
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a safe son, correct? 
Yeah, yeah. 

470
00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,500
Two boys. 
They're Seventeen point five. 

471
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,600
Seven, and five. 
And you also are do you. 

472
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,300
So with your income, have you 
been able to? 

473
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You've been able to walk away 
from your 9 to 5 and kind of 

474
00:23:13,108 --> 00:23:17,400
create that Financial Freedom 
that were all looking for as 

475
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nurse side. 
Hustler's. 

476
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:21,900
Is that something that you've 
been able to do Yeah, I've been 

477
00:23:21,900 --> 00:23:24,600
really grateful to have been 
self-employed actually. 

478
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,500
Since 2008, my original side 
hustle was a comparison shopping

479
00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:33,100
site for Footwear which is a 
super random Niche. 

480
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But it would tell you where you 
could be get the best price or 

481
00:23:35,300 --> 00:23:38,400
do next pair of shoes and would 
earn affiliate commissions from 

482
00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:42,300
Zappo's, from Amazon, from all 
these other online, where 

483
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retailers and so that was the 
thing that let me quit my 

484
00:23:45,700 --> 00:23:48,000
corporate job. 
And so I was running that 

485
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full-time and starting other 
random side projects. 

486
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Being the site also show on the 
side from that and then kind of 

487
00:23:54,808 --> 00:23:56,800
within a year and a half like 
well this side. 

488
00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,300
Hustle stuff is a lot more fun 
to work on than this random shoe

489
00:23:59,300 --> 00:24:02,400
business. 
That became the main focus. 

490
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,200
Yeah, one of the things I think 
was you're talking to is, if you

491
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start get if you just start 
getting working, then what you 

492
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will find is, you may be able to
you may stumble upon the thing 

493
00:24:15,100 --> 00:24:18,400
that you really do enjoy. 
So again, I think it goes back 

494
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,100
to what you were saying about 
just getting started on. 

495
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,400
Thing because what you it will 
morph it could possibly morph 

496
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,500
into something different that 
you didn't even realize, like 

497
00:24:27,500 --> 00:24:31,500
you said, starting off in shoes.
And now being you know, this 

498
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:35,900
side hustle host podcast owner 
and with all the other things 

499
00:24:35,900 --> 00:24:38,500
that you're doing with your 
books and I'm assuming you have 

500
00:24:38,500 --> 00:24:42,400
rental property as well. 
I don't kind of okay we got kind

501
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,300
of burned by like direct 
ownership in a lot of ways like 

502
00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:49,400
I'm I'm All For, You Know, 
rental real estate and you know,

503
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:53,000
as a as a fast. 
Track to financial Independence 

504
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,700
but he got like pretty much 
three paths you could do, the 

505
00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:58,900
traditional investment path. 
And this is like the fire 

506
00:24:58,900 --> 00:25:01,200
community of all, I just saved 
twenty five times my annual 

507
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,500
expenses. 
Yeah. 

508
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:06,400
My you know retirement accounts 
or my you know even my taxable 

509
00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:10,200
investment accounts like okay 
you know, historically the math 

510
00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,300
says I can withdraw a 4% a year 
around. 

511
00:25:12,300 --> 00:25:15,200
I'm roughly gonna be okay so 
that's method number one. 

512
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,300
Like it works if you have a high
income and low expenses, 

513
00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:20,100
otherwise it's like you're 
probably never going to get 

514
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:22,100
there. 
Number two, Is real estate 

515
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:25,100
especially because you can be 
leveraged and and has lots of 

516
00:25:25,108 --> 00:25:27,900
tax advantages to and then the 
Third Way is the entrepreneurial

517
00:25:27,900 --> 00:25:30,000
path. 
Like okay, how do I build my own

518
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,000
income generating assets through
the business asset class and go 

519
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,900
that way? 
So that's been the path that we 

520
00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:39,300
chose to financial Independence.
Gotcha my last question of the 

521
00:25:39,300 --> 00:25:42,600
podcast, would you share with my
again nurse? 

522
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,800
That's like. 
All right, so I hear everything 

523
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:49,300
I want to get started, you know,
where can they go to see what 

524
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:51,000
you're about? 
What can they do to you? 

525
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:53,500
No, hear your side. 
Hustle podcast with, tell them 

526
00:25:53,500 --> 00:25:55,700
where you're located. 
Yeah, we'd love to. 

527
00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:57,300
Have you tuned in to the side. 
Hustle show. 

528
00:25:57,300 --> 00:26:00,800
You find it on any podcast app. 
If you hit up, hustle that show,

529
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:05,100
I'll build you a personalized 
playlist for what episodes might

530
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,800
be most pertinent to you based 
on the answers to a few short. 

531
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,900
Multiple choice questions. 
You can add that to your device.

532
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,400
If you're kind of in the idea 
agnostic phase just want to see 

533
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,400
what you what is out there. 
I mean, there's hundreds of 

534
00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,300
episodes, of course, you don't 
take your pick, Choose Your Own 

535
00:26:19,308 --> 00:26:22,700
Adventure, but sign of 
salvation, I'm / ideas is my big

536
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:25,100
laundry list of part-time 
business ideas. 

537
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:27,000
There's no opt-in required over 
there. 

538
00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:30,000
And so my hope is that helps 
people get the creative Juices 

539
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,200
Flow in a bit. 
Fantastic. 

540
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,200
Well, thanks, Nick for coming on
to the podcast. 

541
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:37,300
Thanks for chatting with me and 
telling my audience, your story 

542
00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:40,000
and where they can find you and 
how you can help them, because 

543
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,600
that's really what I want to do.
I want to help nurses. 

544
00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,700
I want to set him free, and, 
yeah, I think this is a great 

545
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:48,500
place to start, is kind of in 
this hybrid workspace, for 

546
00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:50,600
nursing because we can't lose. 
Good nurses. 

547
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,800
That's what's Happening and I 
think if they had something that

548
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,600
brought them joy that they could
maybe get paid to do as well, 

549
00:26:56,900 --> 00:27:01,100
that would be kind of The Sweet 
Spot is what I'd like to call 

550
00:27:01,100 --> 00:27:02,100
it. 
So yes. 

551
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,400
Alrighty guys. 
Thanks for listening and as 

552
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:07,200
always, don't forget to enjoy 
the journey of your career. 

553
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,400
Emma, Emma, Emma and Tastefully 
to me. 

554
00:27:19,700 --> 00:27:22,600
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555
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556
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:28,300
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566
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,600
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568
00:28:04,400 --> 00:27:45,100
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569
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:48,500
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570
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571
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:54,500
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572
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573
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:00,600
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00:28:00,900 --> 00:28:04,400
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