1 00:00:01,500 --> 00:00:03,400 Hi there. My name is dr. 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,600 Presenta, and I'm the host of the doctor nurse podcast. 3 00:00:06,700 --> 00:00:09,000 I'm an advanced nurse practitioner and I want to be 4 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,700 your guide into the world of nursing professions. 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,500 This podcast is a platform for nurses to share their Journeys 6 00:00:15,500 --> 00:00:18,700 as they made their way in the diverse field of nursing as 7 00:00:18,700 --> 00:00:22,800 either entrepreneurs, Academia private, practice or even the 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,700 corporate world. I think we should celebrate just 9 00:00:25,700 --> 00:00:28,800 how diverse the field of nursing is through mentoring one. 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:30,400 Another, with the stories of our career. 11 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:34,100 Our Journeys, nothing is too mundane because each journey is 12 00:00:34,100 --> 00:00:36,700 unique. This podcast will showcase 13 00:00:36,700 --> 00:00:39,900 career options to encourage nurses to view their degrees 14 00:00:39,900 --> 00:00:43,000 with a business mindset. After all we work in the 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,000 healthcare business and ultimately I hope I might 16 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:48,500 inspire you to make a change. If you're looking for something 17 00:00:48,500 --> 00:00:52,000 different, I am motivated to see you live, your best, nursing 18 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,500 life and that looks different for everyone. 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,800 Thanks for joining me on today's podcast. 20 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,800 And let's get started with today's guests. 21 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:05,000 Hi Hanna, welcome onto the doctor nurse podcast. 22 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,000 I'm so happy to have you on today. 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,500 Hannah is the owner CEO of the Blue Ridge. 24 00:01:10,500 --> 00:01:14,600 Medical legal Consulting, business that she is the legal 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,600 nurse for and she also works as an out piece of surgery. 26 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,900 Nurse. She's in both worlds right now 27 00:01:20,900 --> 00:01:24,000 which is something that me at the doctor podcast from really 28 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,700 really likes nurses that are pursuing also not just hospital 29 00:01:27,700 --> 00:01:30,300 jobs but also finding their niches in other areas. 30 00:01:30,500 --> 00:01:34,600 And she's Contracting with another legal nurse consulting, 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,900 firm to find cases. It's apply the Hannah and choice 32 00:01:37,900 --> 00:01:41,500 being outdoors reading and he's gotten recently addicted to 33 00:01:41,500 --> 00:01:44,700 baking from the pandemic. Aisha's, been watching the 34 00:01:44,700 --> 00:01:48,700 British cooking show the greatest cooking show, they can 35 00:01:48,700 --> 00:01:51,900 show Great British baking show. She got addicted to making. 36 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:55,300 So yeah, that's Hannah. She's gonna explain to us guys, 37 00:01:55,300 --> 00:01:57,900 her journey to Legal Nurse Consulting. 38 00:01:57,900 --> 00:02:01,800 What took her there and share? How and What she's doing right 39 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,500 now with her career? Welcome Hannah. 40 00:02:03,500 --> 00:02:05,300 I'm so happy to have you on today. 41 00:02:05,300 --> 00:02:07,300 Thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,100 Yeah. So Hannah, let's Dive Right In. 43 00:02:10,100 --> 00:02:13,100 What is your current role? Your job title or explained it a 44 00:02:13,108 --> 00:02:16,900 little bit, but really explain what you do for a living. 45 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,700 So what I did for a living right now, I work in an outpatient 46 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:23,400 Endoscopy Center, so I do that for days a week, for eight hour 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,700 shifts and then the rest of my time is spent on my business. 48 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,800 Basically, I am an independent legal nurse Consultants. 49 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:33,900 Are acting right now. But yeah that's basically what I 50 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:35,700 do. We work at the Endoscopy Center. 51 00:02:35,700 --> 00:02:38,900 You said you work how many hours of 32 hours a week right now. 39 52 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:43,700 about 8 to 15 hours, a ditional, or spent on my business, that's 53 00:02:43,700 --> 00:02:47,700 a pretty good mix in argue. Just helping with people going 54 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:50,600 to sleep, waking up, making sure they're ready for a procedures. 55 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,400 Or are you involved in what aspect of the endoscopy? 56 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,000 Are you involved in? So, the nurses basically run the 57 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,300 center, it's one Organization, three different centers. 58 00:03:00,700 --> 00:03:04,800 So we do the pre-op side, we also are the nurse in the 59 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,500 procedure room and we do the post office. 60 00:03:07,500 --> 00:03:10,700 And so we can also do the surgical tech role if needed. 61 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:14,800 So we kind of do everything and just kind of show up and do 62 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,600 whatever we need to got. Ya and then tell us about your 63 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,900 side, hustle your business, what you got going on there, which is 64 00:03:22,900 --> 00:03:25,500 pretty cool. So yeah, start it. 65 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:28,500 So I wanted to be a legal nurse consultant basically, since I 66 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:31,300 was a new grad, I just thought it was is really cool. 67 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:34,500 I loved how the nurses got to work with the attorneys and be 68 00:03:34,500 --> 00:03:38,500 an influential role in a bunch of, you know, really important 69 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:41,100 medical cases. When I had been a nurse for 70 00:03:41,100 --> 00:03:43,700 about two years, I emailed a legal nurse consultant, 71 00:03:43,700 --> 00:03:46,500 Pennsylvania and asked her advice on what I should do. 72 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:49,300 And she basically told me I needed a lot more experience, 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,900 could because legal nurse Consultants drawn, a lot of 74 00:03:51,900 --> 00:03:54,600 their own nursing experience. That's like, what's your 75 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,300 marketing? Your marketing yourself. 76 00:03:56,300 --> 00:03:58,900 Basically to the attorneys. Got it. 77 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,000 So I A formed my career so that I would get the experience. 78 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:06,800 I wanted to, I spent the next seven years in the trauma 79 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,300 center. In Baltimore, Maryland, I worked 80 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:10,500 in three different units that are kind of built up, everything 81 00:04:10,500 --> 00:04:15,800 I needed to work in the a lot of the medical malpractice cases 82 00:04:15,900 --> 00:04:18,300 and then to well year and a half ago. 83 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:21,800 Now, at the beginning of the pandemic April 4th 2020, I 84 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:27,100 registered my LLC and then the pandemic it so that kind of set 85 00:04:27,100 --> 00:04:30,000 everything back but I officially started work. 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,800 On my legal Consulting, business and December 2020, and having 87 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,800 kind of slowly building it up from there. 88 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:39,000 Cool. Now, whenever you decided or you 89 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:41,200 found interest in the career and she told you, you didn't have 90 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,900 enough experience. So, use that. 91 00:04:42,900 --> 00:04:45,800 Okay. I'm going to go into the areas 92 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,400 where I think it will give me the experience I need. 93 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,400 How did you know that? Like, how did you know that 94 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,500 trauma would be where you need to go for that? 95 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,000 Because I kept seeing Billboards and ads for all the lawyers who 96 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,400 you like if you were in a car accident, call us. 97 00:04:58,500 --> 00:05:00,800 So I was like, hey, that's looks like a good Area. 98 00:05:01,100 --> 00:05:04,000 That's really smart and I just found it fascinating. 99 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,200 Yeah. And so, how long did you work in 100 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,800 trauma before you went into legal nurse Consulting? 101 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,400 How many years, 7 years, 7 years as a nurse there. 102 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,600 And then I realized I couldn't really do this for my entire 103 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,500 life anymore. So I thought it was time to 104 00:05:19,500 --> 00:05:21,600 start, you know, looking into legal Consulting. 105 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,500 I remember in your journey you had said that you went from 106 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,900 trauma to ICU or were you in the ICU trauma. 107 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,800 So yes to both the The are atoms Cali Center. 108 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,600 In Baltimore is the only Standalone Shock Trauma Center 109 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:39,100 in the entire world so it's basically its own hospital. 110 00:05:39,100 --> 00:05:42,600 So I started out on like an intermedia care unit and then I 111 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:47,400 went to two of their icy use. Go kind of did the whole gamut. 112 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:49,700 We'll probably kind of segue into the next question. 113 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:52,600 So how did you get there? What was your specific Journey 114 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,100 from the time that you decided? I'm going to be a nurse to. 115 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:59,400 Alright, I'm now opening my own practice walk us through the 116 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,000 beginning of part of your It's probably where I'd like to 117 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,200 start. So I should probably preface 118 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,300 this by saying that I got into nursing because I thought it was 119 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,000 cool. When I was 15, people have these 120 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,900 stories of how they want to help people want out, which is great. 121 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:14,400 And I do, you know, enjoy helping people but I literally 122 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,900 thought it was cool when I was a teenager. 123 00:06:15,900 --> 00:06:19,800 So that's how I got into it. So I started working at Hopkins 124 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,000 in organ transplant for my first new grad job. 125 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,600 Yeah. Totally like her, very specific. 126 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Random unit. And I burned out there. 127 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,300 I've burned out at three of my four jobs. 128 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,900 He's so burned out there didn't really recognize it at the time, 129 00:06:33,900 --> 00:06:36,800 but I moved that's when I moved to the trauma center. 130 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:39,100 You know, something I've always been interested in and just talk 131 00:06:39,100 --> 00:06:42,100 to the legal nurse consultants in this kind of trying to plan 132 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:44,000 my career. So I moved there. 133 00:06:44,100 --> 00:06:46,000 The first job I had, there was amazing. 134 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:47,700 I loved it. I moved out of it because it 135 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:50,400 wasn't an ICU and I wanted. I see your experience. 136 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:57,100 So I went to a an ECMO trauma unit and ECMO is the lung bypass 137 00:06:57,100 --> 00:07:01,900 that's extra Corporal membranous oxygen is a It's basically like 138 00:07:01,900 --> 00:07:06,400 the lung and heart bypass and I burned out there too and I left 139 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,900 there after a year because I just could, wow, I couldn't 140 00:07:08,900 --> 00:07:12,900 handle it anymore and it's then I moved to a neuro trauma ICU 141 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:17,000 which I loved like, I loved all my coworkers. 142 00:07:17,100 --> 00:07:21,200 I liked the patient's. My managers were amazing but I 143 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:24,500 had it up burning out there too and I realized it at the 144 00:07:24,500 --> 00:07:27,800 beginning of the pandemic and that's when I started looking 145 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,200 into getting into Luke who solely because I was like, okay, 146 00:07:30,500 --> 00:07:33,000 Now's the Time maybe bed size, just not for me anymore. 147 00:07:33,100 --> 00:07:36,000 I've got the experience I want. So it's time to come to do 148 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,500 everyone and myself a favor and move on. 149 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,700 Yeah, so whenever you first be decided to become a nurse or 150 00:07:42,700 --> 00:07:44,500 heard you said you were 15 years old? 151 00:07:44,500 --> 00:07:47,300 Did you go and get your associates degree? 152 00:07:47,300 --> 00:07:49,900 Did you then get your bachelor's degree? 153 00:07:50,100 --> 00:07:53,100 I went to Howard Community College, which is an associate's 154 00:07:53,100 --> 00:07:55,400 degree College in Columbia, Maryland. 155 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:58,600 And I did that, because my dad said he'd pay for one degree, 156 00:07:58,700 --> 00:08:01,800 and I was like, all right, so, I better get this degree. 157 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:04,500 So I went there got my associates degree started 158 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:09,200 working as a nurse lived at home until age, 25. 159 00:08:09,300 --> 00:08:13,300 When I bought my house and it's, I looked at home, I was able to 160 00:08:13,300 --> 00:08:16,200 save, you know, a lot of money. So I was able to buy my house 161 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,900 and pay for my bachelor's degree, which I did online at 162 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:21,700 Ohio, and I wanted to graduate without any student debt. 163 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,400 So that's what I did. And it worked out pretty well. 164 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:27,500 I feel like if I have a friend who's from Ohio State and every 165 00:08:27,500 --> 00:08:29,800 place we were go, he would keep going. 166 00:08:30,300 --> 00:08:34,500 Oh wait, Ayo and I was so sweet. I was so like stupid because he 167 00:08:34,500 --> 00:08:36,500 was just saying that I was like, what are you doing? 168 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:38,000 Why are you doing that to people? 169 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,100 And you know, he was like it spells Ohio fuck. 170 00:08:41,500 --> 00:08:44,700 Oh, my mom always laughs at me because I have an Ohio State 171 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:47,500 sweatshirt, but since I went online, I didn't like get the 172 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:50,200 full experience, so I'll be wearing it, like around a DC or 173 00:08:50,208 --> 00:08:53,200 whatever, and people, yellow a chat me, it'll just go straight 174 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,000 up on my head. I just don't ask her and she 175 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,300 yells at, for me, she loves to be over time. 176 00:08:57,500 --> 00:08:59,800 Yeah. No, because I what I watch that 177 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,400 interaction. I was like oh, that's kind of 178 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,100 cool. Like I wish we had something 179 00:09:03,100 --> 00:09:04,500 like that. Yeah, yeah. 180 00:09:04,700 --> 00:09:08,500 So okay, so you go get your bachelor's degree, your dad 181 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:11,000 offers to pay for your Associates which is hilarious. 182 00:09:11,300 --> 00:09:13,500 Make sure you get your Bachelors but you're at home. 183 00:09:13,500 --> 00:09:15,700 You buy a house which is awesome. 184 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:20,000 And then you spend the next seven years as you walked us 185 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:23,100 through in the trauma, either in the ICU setting or in the 186 00:09:23,100 --> 00:09:25,700 intermediate step down type settings. 187 00:09:25,700 --> 00:09:28,800 Yeah, and then burning through and burning out of these 188 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,600 critical care jobs. Where you're working as an ICU 189 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,600 nurse leads you to this legal nurse Consulting. 190 00:09:34,700 --> 00:09:38,100 So I'm sure a lot of our nurses are interested because you see 191 00:09:38,100 --> 00:09:41,400 these flyers, they come to your mailbox like be a legal nurse 192 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,500 consultant. I've gotten them because I was 193 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:47,600 interested in it and I kind of didn't really understand like 194 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,500 what they did. So could you walk us through 195 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:53,800 really? What a legal nurse consultant, 196 00:09:53,900 --> 00:09:58,000 how she's involved in the the legal atmosphere? 197 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:02,800 Yes, a legal nurse Consultants. Basically interpret where the 198 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:08,400 medical resources for attorneys. So just like being an ICU nurse 199 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,700 like a legal consultant, you can do a ton of different things. 200 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,400 So there are at the legal nurse Consultants, who are expert 201 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,900 Witnesses in their field. There are the ones who do just 202 00:10:18,900 --> 00:10:21,900 workman's compensation. They're the ones who do the 203 00:10:21,900 --> 00:10:23,600 medical exams with the Physicians. 204 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,400 What I do right now is the medical record review and report 205 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:30,200 writing the attorneys will basically send me men. 206 00:10:30,300 --> 00:10:32,600 Uncle records. However, many files, they got 207 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:36,600 the most I've had, I think was, like, 15,000 pages of medical 208 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:40,400 records that you then have to comb through and write a report 209 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:42,500 on. And it's usually at first a 210 00:10:42,500 --> 00:10:45,200 merit review. So we read through the records, 211 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,800 we determine if there was negligence malpractice anything 212 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,000 like that. We make a recommendation to the 213 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:53,800 attorney based on our findings, and then they either take the 214 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,800 case or they drop the case, and if they decide to take the case, 215 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,200 then usually they'll send the records back to us. 216 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,400 On with any additional ones that they found and we write what's 217 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:08,200 called a chronology report. So that's basically listing out 218 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:12,600 and table form, every single medical record listing out all 219 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:16,000 of the inaccuracies, all the discrepancies, all the missing 220 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,200 records that are mentioned in the medical records that we have 221 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,200 and then we send that report back to them and then they take 222 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,800 it from there. Interesting. 223 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:30,400 You're kind of the go-between to determine if the case is is 224 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:33,000 worth taking. If you look at a case and you 225 00:11:33,008 --> 00:11:36,300 go, it's pretty Ironclad like everybody did what they were 226 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:39,000 supposed to do. Then I'm attorney will go. 227 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,400 Okay, yeah, okay, well then I won't take this case, but if 228 00:11:41,408 --> 00:11:43,700 you're like, no, this is a mess. This is bad. 229 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:45,400 I don't know what your terminology is like, this is a 230 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,300 tort or, but if you're like, this seems to be evidence of 231 00:11:48,300 --> 00:11:52,500 negligence. But yeah, that and then that 232 00:11:52,500 --> 00:11:53,800 what's, what? Prompts them to go. 233 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,300 Okay, great. Well, then we'll go ahead and 234 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:58,800 take this and will pursue it for legal recourse. 235 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,600 Yes, which is pretty neat. And so what are the other areas 236 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,600 that your career can go into? Is there other things that you 237 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,600 see yourself going into with this legal nurse consulting? 238 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:12,300 Or is this really where you want to stay? 239 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,300 No, I actually would like to do forensics. 240 00:12:16,300 --> 00:12:19,200 I've always been interested in forensics and more of like, the 241 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:23,000 criminal cases. So I actually took to forensic 242 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,900 classes in college because I was so interested in it and I still 243 00:12:26,900 --> 00:12:30,600 have the textbooks for though. So my dream would be be to 244 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:34,700 become a forensics legal, nurse consultant expert and kind of 245 00:12:34,700 --> 00:12:36,600 work in that area. Okay. 246 00:12:36,700 --> 00:12:40,100 Is this like CSI type stuff or like Special Victims? 247 00:12:40,100 --> 00:12:43,200 Unit A little bit? Yeah, so it would be more more 248 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,400 of the like, the criminal cases, the murders. 249 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:50,200 The strangulations, the dead bodies found was this fell play? 250 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,900 Was it natural death? That sort of situation. 251 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,700 So, legal nurse Consultants? Nurses, they work on these 252 00:12:56,700 --> 00:12:58,000 cases. Yep. 253 00:12:58,300 --> 00:12:59,500 Yeah. We do interest. 254 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:02,700 We can look Pictures. Look at a body and especially 255 00:13:02,700 --> 00:13:05,500 with a trauma background. Like I have we can tell them 256 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:08,000 kind of what caused it. Things like that. 257 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,600 Interesting. Yeah. 258 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:13,500 So what are some of the things that you had to do to get your 259 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:15,600 legal nurse Consulting, certification. 260 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,300 So there are several ways to do it. 261 00:13:17,300 --> 00:13:19,800 You really don't need a certification to become a legal 262 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:23,300 nurse Consultants. I wanted it because I know that 263 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,900 attorneys. Look at a certification more 264 00:13:26,900 --> 00:13:30,100 than experience just in my personal experience. 265 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,400 So it's easier to say like hey I have this certification then hey 266 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:35,800 look at all my years of experience, let me show you how 267 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:39,000 that can help you. So I went through, it's called 268 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:42,100 Ellen ceased at with RN Market, okay? 269 00:13:42,100 --> 00:13:44,600 Yes, they actually it was a really good program. 270 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,100 It was 120 credit hours of Education, they have provided a 271 00:13:48,108 --> 00:13:52,000 massive comprehensive education on what legal nurse Consultants 272 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:53,800 do. They gave me a whole marketing 273 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,000 package. They gave me my website. 274 00:13:56,100 --> 00:13:59,300 It was a really, really good training and then they gave me. 275 00:13:59,300 --> 00:14:02,600 It's called the It's legal nurse consultant certification, which 276 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,000 is their own, they have their own organization, their own 277 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,000 certification. So, that's what I got. 278 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:11,200 Did you have to take a test in order to graduate from this 279 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,400 program? Yes. 280 00:14:12,500 --> 00:14:14,700 Yeah, there were multiple quizzes throughout the program, 281 00:14:14,700 --> 00:14:18,000 and then a test at the End plus to practice cases, start to 282 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,000 finish that. They graded and gave me feedback 283 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,000 on. Wow, is very is very involved 284 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,100 and very, very good. I'm very glad I did it. 285 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,200 How long did it take you to complete the certification about 286 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,100 two months? I did it pretty fast. 287 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,000 Fast. They give you, I believe six 288 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 months to a year to complete it but I, you know, this was in 289 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,400 February 2020, so I didn't know the world was going to shut 290 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:39,900 down. I was like, that's a big, let's 291 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:42,700 get this rolling soon as fast. Good for you. 292 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,000 The legal nurse Consulting. Certification was it's super 293 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,200 expensive just for my own like edification. 294 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,400 I'm just wondering. It was about six thousand 295 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:51,400 dollars. Whoa. 296 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:53,400 That is not cheap. No, it's not cheap. 297 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,300 But they do have a guarantee that if you don't get a first 298 00:14:56,300 --> 00:14:58,200 case, you get all of it back. So what? 299 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,700 Yeah basically one Percent guarantee that you'll get at 300 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:05,400 least your first case. Wow so yeah, that's good to know 301 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:08,900 and I was like, whoa - well you know, worst thing is I get a 302 00:15:08,908 --> 00:15:11,200 case. Do they help you get a case or 303 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,100 do you have to pursue it? Like in this group that you're a 304 00:15:14,108 --> 00:15:17,500 part of whenever you work with this Consulting Group, do they 305 00:15:17,500 --> 00:15:20,200 find the cases for you? Do they show up at your door? 306 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:22,700 Like how does it happen? They give you all the marketing 307 00:15:22,700 --> 00:15:26,000 resources that you need and then they basically tell you how to 308 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,700 do it and then you have to Market to people in your area 309 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:30,800 and figure out kind of how It works for you. 310 00:15:30,900 --> 00:15:32,900 How do you fight get people? Like you don't, you're not 311 00:15:32,900 --> 00:15:35,800 ambulance-chasing right now. I have I have my website. 312 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,000 I have business cards, they actually really advocate for 313 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:39,500 packets. They say that attorneys. 314 00:15:39,500 --> 00:15:42,900 Never open the regular the regular size envelopes. 315 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,000 They opened the big envelopes first, but they tell you to put 316 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 all your marketing materials in one of those big 9 by 12. 317 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,100 Envelopes mail, it to the attorneys, followed up with a 318 00:15:52,108 --> 00:15:54,700 phone call. And the attorneys will probably 319 00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:57,400 open your package first when they get them out, interesting, 320 00:15:57,400 --> 00:16:00,600 you Market to the attorneys and then they send you business, S, 321 00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:04,400 you just go just within your local area or do you send 322 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,200 packets to like everybody I've just been the local are at right 323 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,200 now but with the subcontracting I'm doing, I'm working mainly 324 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,700 with the attorneys. Well the attorney cases I don't 325 00:16:14,700 --> 00:16:16,700 work with the attorneys particularly when I got 326 00:16:16,700 --> 00:16:21,600 Contracting but from Georgia Florida and California for my 327 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,600 marketing purposes. It's mainly just the Maryland DC 328 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:25,800 area. Don't you? 329 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:29,100 And then the group that you're a part of they send out to farther 330 00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:31,500 places? Yes, they do the marketing for 331 00:16:31,500 --> 00:16:33,500 me basically. And you do the cases for them 332 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:36,600 and then for your like, your own work, use in cases, you send 333 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:38,900 your name out to people around you and then they send you 334 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:41,800 business as well. Yeah, you kind of have like two 335 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,700 sources of input for business. You're double-dipping in the 336 00:16:44,700 --> 00:16:47,700 area around, you getting known locally which is really smart, 337 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:49,500 because those are the people that they're kind of in your 338 00:16:49,500 --> 00:16:52,300 Niche, they know. Yeah, you're in your area, but 339 00:16:52,300 --> 00:16:54,300 this is all women-owned businesses are big now. 340 00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:58,000 So this is smart super smart Hannah. 341 00:16:58,200 --> 00:16:59,600 Wow. Okay, cool. 342 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:04,000 Since Owning your own business and kind of pursuing that what 343 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,700 have you found as you've gone about kind of working in both 344 00:17:07,700 --> 00:17:11,500 worlds is working in the hospital, kind of fuel, your 345 00:17:11,500 --> 00:17:16,000 desire for entrepreneurship or is it vice versa? 346 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:20,000 Has your entrepreneurship, made you appreciate your role in the 347 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,000 hospital? A little bit of both. 348 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:26,200 I really enjoy making my own schedule working when I want to 349 00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:30,500 having weekends and holidays off, I do miss the Hustle and 350 00:17:30,500 --> 00:17:33,300 bustle of the I see you. I feel like I thrive in that 351 00:17:33,300 --> 00:17:36,800 environment, so kind of both kind of both a little bit. 352 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,100 Uh, yeah. Okay, yeah. 353 00:17:38,100 --> 00:17:42,000 Also, do you think that over time you would like to be more 354 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,000 in an entrepreneurial role in step back from the hospital? 355 00:17:45,300 --> 00:17:47,000 Or do you always want to be an okay? 356 00:17:47,100 --> 00:17:49,900 That's kind of you're in goal. Yeah, I specifically got this 357 00:17:49,900 --> 00:17:53,100 outpatient job because I can slowly scale back on that. 358 00:17:53,300 --> 00:17:56,600 While I build up my business to kind of transition out, very 359 00:17:56,600 --> 00:17:59,800 smart, very smart well throughout your journey and 360 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,500 you've Blend it really well. Kind of your process to how you 361 00:18:02,500 --> 00:18:06,100 got to where you are today. Could you give us one of the big 362 00:18:06,100 --> 00:18:09,500 success that you had in your career, a high that you look 363 00:18:09,500 --> 00:18:12,400 back and you go? That was that was a really neat 364 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,000 moment as a nurse or even in your legal nurse Consulting 365 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,400 career. Well, recently, I got a case in 366 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,100 my legal nurse Consulting career. 367 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,700 It was a pretty involved case. I don't know exactly how much I 368 00:18:23,708 --> 00:18:27,800 could say, but basically the patients had died. 369 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:32,400 Unfortunately, from after a Surgery and I look to the 370 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,700 medical records. I did all my research, things 371 00:18:34,700 --> 00:18:37,700 like that, the family wanted to sue because they thought that 372 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:40,600 the nursing home that they had sent him to had done something 373 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,400 wrong, because he basically was in the hospital went to nursing 374 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:46,200 home for one night, they found him unresponsive in the morning, 375 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,700 went back to the hospital and he eventually died so that they 376 00:18:50,700 --> 00:18:52,900 they thought the nursing home. Yeah, it was really sad. 377 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:54,900 They thought the nursing hope did something wrong so they were 378 00:18:54,900 --> 00:18:57,700 trying to see them but it turns out that it was actually just a 379 00:18:57,700 --> 00:19:01,800 really terrible rare. Complication, which I 380 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,500 discovered, we sent that back to attorney that the attorney 381 00:19:04,500 --> 00:19:07,100 decided not to take the case, which is really. 382 00:19:07,700 --> 00:19:10,500 It was a very, very sad outcome for the family and the patient, 383 00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:14,000 but I, I did appreciate that. We could get to the root cause 384 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,800 of the problem and provide them with an answer. 385 00:19:16,100 --> 00:19:20,000 Even if that meant, not suing and not getting any monetary 386 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,300 compensation for the, yeah, I feel like, what you just 387 00:19:23,300 --> 00:19:25,900 provided was closure, right? Yep. 388 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:31,000 Yeah, whenever you are a pair of mother or Father, that's your 389 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,100 parent. You do kind of want to know. 390 00:19:33,100 --> 00:19:35,000 Okay. Well, did somebody just like, 391 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:38,300 not check on my dad and, you know, like and it's just like, 392 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:42,000 no he had a really rare complication from surgery and 393 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,300 that's the risk that you take with those surgeries. 394 00:19:44,300 --> 00:19:47,200 When those people Sue they just want closure, they want someone 395 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:50,000 to pay someone to tell them what happened. 396 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,800 So yeah, it was good that we were able to provide them. 397 00:19:52,900 --> 00:19:54,700 Interesting. That's really cool. 398 00:19:54,700 --> 00:19:57,600 And then tell me about one of the biggest challenges in your 399 00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,000 career. Mean, you've talked about 400 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:03,200 burnout Multiple jobs. I see you jobs and given the 401 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:06,200 atmosphere of covid and everyone's just and I kind of 402 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,300 struggle a little bit because I do feel nurses, we are super 403 00:20:09,300 --> 00:20:12,400 resilient so there's a part of me that's wanting to make sure I 404 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,100 keep encouraging. I don't want us to be 405 00:20:15,100 --> 00:20:18,500 discouraged and I don't want to add too kind of a - nurses were 406 00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:19,900 treated bad. Where, you know? 407 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:23,000 Yeah, you know, fight the man. I kinda don't want to do that 408 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,300 but I do want to say, what is something that as you've gone 409 00:20:26,300 --> 00:20:29,100 through your career and I got it might be the burnout and might 410 00:20:29,100 --> 00:20:31,900 be other things that you felt. Like was a challenge that you 411 00:20:31,900 --> 00:20:34,600 had to overcome because I think that's what nurses are really 412 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,500 good at as we don't good at overcoming challenges. 413 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,000 So tell me a little bit about maybe one of your experiences 414 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,400 that you could think back on your career. 415 00:20:41,700 --> 00:20:43,100 Yeah. We are really good at overcoming 416 00:20:43,100 --> 00:20:46,400 challenges and the funny thing about burnout is that nobody 417 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,500 wants to burn out. I learned that I loved my job. 418 00:20:49,500 --> 00:20:51,800 I loved the ICU job. I loved all my co-workers. 419 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,200 My managers were amazing. It wasn't them. 420 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:58,900 It was just I just burned out and I tried not to, you know, I 421 00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:01,500 stuck with it. I Then switch to night shift, to 422 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:04,500 see if that would make things easier, which it did, not those 423 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,500 was the wrong choice for me. But yeah, it's burnouts really 424 00:21:08,500 --> 00:21:12,900 hard and I think that it's becoming more and more prevalent 425 00:21:12,900 --> 00:21:15,800 today. So, I think if we, as a nursing 426 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,500 Community, just talk about it more and help each other through 427 00:21:18,500 --> 00:21:21,000 it. Like, I went and saw a therapist 428 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:24,900 at work, who helped a lot by just removing that stigma of. 429 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:28,000 Yeah, for now, because nobody wants to do it, it just happens. 430 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:31,700 So I think if we can all support each, Each other and talk about 431 00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:32,900 it. More just talking about, it will 432 00:21:32,900 --> 00:21:36,000 help know what did burn out look like for you. 433 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:40,700 So for me, I was extremely tired all the time, no matter how much 434 00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:43,700 I slept, I couldn't catch up. I woke up tired. 435 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:45,800 I went to bed tired. I would have liked a little 436 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:47,300 burst of energy in the afternoon. 437 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,900 I also gained a lot of weight which wasn't yet, but I didn't 438 00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:56,700 really recognize it until I was like, wow, this is the problem 439 00:21:56,700 --> 00:21:58,700 now. And along with that I couldn't 440 00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:00,300 lose it. I was actively trying to His 441 00:22:00,300 --> 00:22:03,100 way, it could not lose weight just because of all the stress, 442 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,800 my body was telling me, I'd had enough basically, I had another 443 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,700 nurse on my podcast and she described burn out and it sounds 444 00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:12,000 like in both situations. It was the same. 445 00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,100 It was almost like a neglecting of self. 446 00:22:14,300 --> 00:22:16,600 Yep. In both situations and ended up 447 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,700 leading to her getting diagnosed with an autoimmune disorder. 448 00:22:19,700 --> 00:22:21,500 And she talks about all yeah podcast. 449 00:22:21,500 --> 00:22:25,000 And so that's what I have already antibodies know that was 450 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,400 ever hacked issue that we have in fact issue was I think 451 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,100 thyroid and she was describing Give it to me and my heart 452 00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:32,500 broke. Because I remember telling you 453 00:22:32,500 --> 00:22:35,300 before the we gone to the podcast was just, I was so 454 00:22:35,300 --> 00:22:38,600 burned out from work that I would come home and study 455 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,300 because I knew that was my ticket out of here. 456 00:22:41,500 --> 00:22:43,700 Yeah. Like this is my ticket out of 457 00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:48,700 this mess that I don't enjoy. And so did did the legal nurse 458 00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:51,600 Consulting? Kind of ignite the fire towards 459 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,200 nursing again for you. And I was like, corny way but it 460 00:22:54,208 --> 00:22:57,400 wasn't like the wind beneath your wings as you were like 461 00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,500 going to work. And it is now When I was still 462 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,600 working in the hospital, I would kind of did the same thing with 463 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,400 my legal Consulting as you did with studying, like, I would 464 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,500 come home work and I because I knew like, that's what I had to 465 00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:12,800 do to get out of here, but now, it is like now I'm really 466 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,200 interested in nursing again, I love learning things, I always 467 00:23:16,200 --> 00:23:18,200 have. So, I love little things. 468 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,800 I come across in cases, that it didn't know before research them 469 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,900 all up. So it's, it has ignited, it a 470 00:23:24,900 --> 00:23:26,500 little bit more. That's really cool. 471 00:23:26,500 --> 00:23:29,200 And I think that's good for people to hear because I think, 472 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,600 they think, Well, it's going to be harder to get out and it'll 473 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,600 be harder to learn something new. 474 00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:38,800 And what you might find is that might be the thing that makes 475 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:42,400 you fall back in love with, what you originally, all went into 476 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,900 nursing for which was to help people. 477 00:23:44,900 --> 00:23:48,300 It's a really cool medicine. I think it's just something that 478 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:51,000 I never realized. Again, I thought was starting a 479 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,800 podcast. It was going to be this super 480 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,100 draining thing, but it's been something that's brought a lot 481 00:23:55,100 --> 00:23:58,000 of joy and something that's like it's yes, it's new, it's 482 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,900 different, it's maybe sometimes kind of Are learning new things, 483 00:24:00,900 --> 00:24:03,900 but it actually is opening doors to things that I would not have 484 00:24:03,900 --> 00:24:07,000 realized I would have enjoyed more than what I was doing. 485 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,800 Yeah. I just kind of have to find your 486 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,300 Niche, right? So any mentors along your 487 00:24:12,300 --> 00:24:15,900 journey, anybody along the way that really helped you, or gave 488 00:24:15,900 --> 00:24:18,700 you some advice that you felt like was really beneficial you'd 489 00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:21,300 like to share with my listeners. Yeah, actually, some of our 490 00:24:21,300 --> 00:24:23,800 leadership at the trauma center has been amazing. 491 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,200 Karen mcculloh is the nurse educator for my unit over there. 492 00:24:27,208 --> 00:24:30,200 And she was the president of the American Association for For 493 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,400 critical care. Nurses Back In I want to say 494 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:37,900 26:18 2017 and she's been really great just because she's so 495 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:40,700 excited about all the new things. 496 00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:42,300 She's really supportive of nurses. 497 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,200 So I love learning from her and she kind of kept sparking my 498 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,400 love of learning and I've been trying to find some legal nurse 499 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,600 consultant venters. I just joined one of the online 500 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:54,900 chapters from the American Association of Legal Nurse 501 00:24:54,900 --> 00:24:57,600 Consultants because I need some connections, there is some 502 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,900 enters in that field. Yeah. 503 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,600 Yeah, you always always be mentors where we go. 504 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,200 I hope you find one. I hope. 505 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,500 Hi Universe Center one buddy. Really cool. 506 00:25:07,500 --> 00:25:08,400 We're gonna manage. I like it. 507 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,200 Right here on the podcast there. Yeah. 508 00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:11,800 And all right. Very cool. 509 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,500 So, what advice do you have for new nurse starting off? 510 00:25:15,500 --> 00:25:17,600 She just got her associate. She just got her bachelor's. 511 00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:20,400 She's got a diploma in hand. She just passed her and Clacks. 512 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,400 And she's like, now, what do I do? 513 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,400 What is something? You wish you would have known 514 00:25:24,500 --> 00:25:25,800 sooner? What do you wish? 515 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,900 Somebody would have told you you're never stuck. 516 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:30,700 You're never stuck in one. A job. 517 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:34,500 You never have to do anything. Nothing is the wrong choice, 518 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,700 whatever is the right choice for you, is the right choice, no 519 00:25:36,700 --> 00:25:38,900 matter what, anybody else around you is telling you, good. 520 00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:40,600 I like that. I like that. 521 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:44,900 And what if there's a woman who's considering legal nurse 522 00:25:44,900 --> 00:25:47,900 Consulting and she's like, I don't know. 523 00:25:47,900 --> 00:25:51,200 I mean, do I have what it takes, what's some advice you have for 524 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,600 one of those women or men. Let's go for it. 525 00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:55,900 You never know, unless you try and everything. 526 00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:57,500 You need to know about legal Consulting. 527 00:25:57,500 --> 00:25:59,900 You learn along the way. So, yeah. 528 00:26:00,100 --> 00:26:03,000 So, a lot of Education. Well, anything else you'd like 529 00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,500 to share with our listeners? What if somebody wants to check 530 00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:09,900 out your website, where do they find you Blue Ridge mlc.com, and 531 00:26:09,900 --> 00:26:14,300 I'm also on Instagram at Common Sense, RN, okay, and what do you 532 00:26:14,308 --> 00:26:17,600 have on your Instagram? Just like little fast, little 533 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,000 nursing advice. Yeah. 534 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,700 Factoids little nursing advice things. 535 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:23,200 I posted something today. With bright about brain 536 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,700 injuries. The different lobes of the brain 537 00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:27,200 and what it will look like. If a particular lobe is injured, 538 00:26:27,300 --> 00:26:30,700 this is so subtle effects like that because it's really neat 539 00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:36,200 that you knew the trajectory of your nursing career like early 540 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,400 on that you wanted to do this and you've tailored it around 541 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,300 this. I did not do that in my career 542 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:44,600 whatsoever. So it's really neat to hear that 543 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,300 you had this in goal and you've always kept that in the well, I 544 00:26:48,300 --> 00:26:51,000 kind of did it one way but never with something where I could be 545 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,100 an entrepreneur in, I never did that. 546 00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:55,100 And that's something here that I think is really cool. 547 00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:58,700 That I really want my listeners to hone in on is that while you 548 00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:02,800 were working and doing your Drudge work, you had your eye on 549 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,400 entrepreneurship. How do I make my own thing? 550 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,300 How do I get my own thing? And I find that really 551 00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:10,800 admirable. That's the smart way to approach 552 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:14,000 your nursing career. Yeah, I really do. 553 00:27:14,100 --> 00:27:17,200 All right, so, for the last part of that it of the podcast, I do 554 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,100 a rapid fire questions. Okay. 555 00:27:20,500 --> 00:27:22,700 And yeah, these are just fly by the seat of your pants, 556 00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:26,300 quickfire, ready? All right, let's go tell me. 557 00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:28,400 If you could teach one subject in school, what would it be 558 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,300 brain? Trauma. 559 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:30,900 Brain. Brain trauma. 560 00:27:31,100 --> 00:27:33,300 Yeah, that's interesting. Next one. 561 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,000 What is your favorite beverage water? 562 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,200 Is that weird? Super cool. 563 00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:41,500 I like Scotch will do that. I like okay. 564 00:27:41,700 --> 00:27:43,800 I don't really like the Ila malt Petey's. 565 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,100 Got ya. I'm a plant. 566 00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,300 I like water. Okay. 567 00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:50,700 Alright. And maybe your parent or someone 568 00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:52,800 that loves you wants to buy you a birthday cake? 569 00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:54,600 What would they put on the birthday cake? 570 00:27:55,100 --> 00:27:59,800 Probably be chocolate with either coconut or peanut butter. 571 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,500 Maybe both so awesome and that's it. 572 00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:07,000 Thank you so much for coming onto the doctor nurse podcast, 573 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,000 sitting and chatting with me. I had such a good time and it 574 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,200 was so sweet about your career. 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