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one of the nurse practitioners 

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and today we are joined by 

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Lauren Lewis. 
She obtained a degree in 

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exercise Physiology and biology 
and worked as a Wellness coach 

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and exercise specialist before 
determining that she wanted to 

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pursue a second degree in 
nursing. 

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She worked at Duke University 
Hospital where she saw the 

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benefits of collaborating 
between the modern medicine 

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system and a holistic approach. 
She worked as a nurse until she 

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completed her master's degree 
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practitioner. 
She has been working in a 

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variety of fields but is most 
recently landed at the 

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Functional Health Center in Fort
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At the Functional Health Center 
where she offers affordable 

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primary care and aesthetic 
treatments to people in the Fort

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Mills area and the surrounding 
area at the direct primary care 

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office. 
So she works there and she 

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provides primary care to the 
patients at that facility that 

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she owns, which is pretty cool. 
So I'm super excited to have her

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on today. 
Welcome, Lauren to the podcast. 

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I'm so excited to dive into what
you're doing. 

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I kind of introduced your story 
about you becoming a nurse 

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practitioner and then you 
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Like, tell us a little bit about
that journey from your own lens.

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Yeah, so I mean, I everything I 
feel like completely happened by

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accident. 
Like all these little happy 

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lucky accidents, I guess my God 
lost. 

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But yeah, I was working as a 
nurse practitioner in aesthetics

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at the time and felt like I was 
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It's great. 
You get to talk to a lot of 

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women, so you get to learn about
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other than just their skin and 
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I was speaking with a former 
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Functional Health Center, the 
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He's a chiropractor by trade, 
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specialist. 
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called direct primary care that 
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at my clinic, but I need a nurse
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Do you know anybody that'd be 
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And I was like, I could do it. 
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would go into this and hire 
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manage it. 
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his functional medicine, I fell 
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I fell in love with the amount 
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patients, what I get to do for 
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them, how I get to now implement
functional medicine into that 

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work. 
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I'm still the provider there 
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practice that I love. 
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transition because I'd love to 
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something that lights you up. 
A lot of nurse practitioners are

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in jobs that they feel stuck, 
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a lot of options. 
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traditional healthcare system to
being on your own, tell me about

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that process. 
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Well, luckily for me, I had not 
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was insurance based, so I don't 
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I remember getting out of 
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need to be in the trenches and I
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on the hospital. 
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you're like, I really want 
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into my life. 
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different clinics that were cash
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insurance at all. 
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easy transition. 
I don't think you have to be a 

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provider to know that insurance 
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and many times is not really for
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get insurance to approve their 
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that. 
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jump through hoops and do this, 
that and the other. 

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This has been an easy transition
for me as a cash based business,

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just being able to sit in front 
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to. 
They can contact me or see me as

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many times as they want and I 
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I'm going to build them or if 
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back or what I have to build 
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So that's been a breath of fresh
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work with me and our patients as
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For listeners that don't know 
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that might be a nice refresher 
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looks like. 
I hear what you're saying. 

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You've never had the insurance 
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much of A transition for you. 
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little bit so that a nurse 
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that's even something that we 
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only shown in school that we can
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systems. 
So it's a kind of a disadvantage

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to nurse practitioners that 
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option. 100% I went to a 
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that was saying how do we get 
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involved in direct primary care 
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be an insurance based world. 
Direct primary care basically is

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taking out the middleman. 
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It is a membership based 
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It does not mean it has to be 
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It just means easy access. 
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for our clinic, it's one fourty,
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With that fee, you get all of 
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labs, typically what you get at 
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But I usually do a couple other 
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B, insulin, full thyroid panels,
really depending on the patient 

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in front of me, all of that's 
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So you pay that fee, you've got 
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all your appointments with me 
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I see some patients once a year,
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week and that's just the name of
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But all of that to say is based 
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They pay this 147 fee. 
You guys determine this is the 

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fee for patients depending on 
what these labs are that you're 

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ordering. 
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all those lab work done, the 
cost to see you and then your 

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eyes are able to still make a 
profit because I mean, it's a 

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business. 
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from other benefits that you're 
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that price that you just said? 
That's an immediate benefit over

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what I pay for health insurance.
I don't know what it is for a 

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family to join your practice, 
and I don't know if you see 

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children, but that's an 
immediate savings just to have 

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basic, you know, access to care.
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What if you're noticing is a 
benefit to patients as far as 

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quality of care, cost access. 
What are patients saying? 

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The first thing patients say is 
how convenient it is to sit 

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there and, you know, just text 
you when I need something, 

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right? 
Because we have that access. 

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We have a patient portal that I 
check it comes to my phone like 

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a text message. 
I check it when I wake up, I 

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check it before I go to bed. 
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convenient. 8:00 at night, 
you're nauseous, you're going on

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a trip the next day. 
You don't have to wait to go to 

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MinuteClinic or urgent care. 
Your trips not ruin. 

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You get to talk directly to me. 
The second thing that people say

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is cost. 
I think people see they pay for 

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their insurance and then they're
like, oh, I can't do 147 a 

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month. 
What a lot of our patients are 

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doing are switching and they're 
having a higher deductible, 

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lower monthly premium. 
I promise I will do the math. 

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That will save you thousands of 
dollars a year. 

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I mean, my insurance on its own 
is $340 a month for me. 

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I don't use it for anything. 
And then if I go to CVS, 

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MinuteClinic or urgent care, I 
still have a bill. 

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I just went to my gynecology. 
I got a bill. 

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Six weeks later, you still are 
paying. 

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Everybody says what am I paying 
for with my insurance? 

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At least you know what you're 
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You're paying for convenience, 
access, less hassle, better 

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relationship, and you're getting
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Yeah, like that. 
You've cut out this middle man 

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and you can go right up to the 
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need. 
It's always inconvenient when 

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you need to go. 
It's always the day right before

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a major holiday. 
They're like, right, they're 

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never going to get me in. 
I call my primary. 

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It takes me weeks to get into 
my. 

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Primary care. 
Provider And then, of course, 

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then there's something with the 
kids. 

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I can't go when you're a busy 
mom and you're working and 

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trying to do all the things, 
having to schedule doctor's 

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appointments on top. 
Of it, I do feel like a lot of 

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moms are just saying that this 
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do. 
I mean, we're in a society now 

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where people don't want to come 
in for everything. 

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Like if you have a UTI and this 
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UTI very frequently. 
You've got burning, you've got 

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frequency, you've got all the 
symptoms. 

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I don't need to culture it and 
wait three days to get you 

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symptom relief. 
I can send something in. 

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Same thing for a chronic sinus 
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If it's been over 2 weeks and 
you're hacking or you've been 

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around somebody with the flu, we
can talk, we can have a 

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conversation and I can get you 
the medication really quickly. 

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That's really, really 
convenient. 

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Well, how do you manage the 
patient care without the 

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involvement in the insurance 
companies there? 

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Who do you say that you have to 
push meds through certain 

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medications you have to bill 
through the insurance? 

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So are you doing a level of the 
insurance work? 

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Do you hire someone to do that 
or are you do that work on top 

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of it? 
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that do hybrid so they'll do 
some insurance and some not, and

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that's usually so they can take 
Medicare. 

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But we don't do insurance at 
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The only thing patients use 
their insurance for is when they

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go to their pharmacy, they'll 
present their insurance card and

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they still pay for it. 
The only thing I ever really 

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deal with insurance is if I have
to do a prior authorization if a

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medication isn't covered. 
That's all I deal with with 

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injuries. 
Gotcha. 

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All right. 
So what does your typical day 

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look like at your practice? 
Like what time do you start? 

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Do you have a remote wing to 
your job? 

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I heard you say you've got some 
messages coming in. 

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What are some of that? 
What does a day in the life of a

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of a DPC nurse practitioner look
like in practice? 

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It's pretty nice. 
I do you have the flexibility. 

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I'm not having patients call 3 
weeks in advance to book me. 

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Patients just kind of pop up on 
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see if anybody has a pressing 
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of my patients and I have a 
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just share something with me and
like it's like a texting your 

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friend in the morning and then I
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patients and off office. 
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day, some people will call in a 
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back, but it's not. 
I know my other friends that 

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work in a traditional primary 
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you're in, you're out, you're 
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them, not really getting to the 
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We're able to really look at 
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functional medicine does as well
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of that. 
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intake is a long process to take
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you can manage the issues 
conservatively. 

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You manage with supplements. 
It's not just clear cut, you 

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know, antibiotics don't look at 
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surface. 
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your relationship with your 
patients and how that's changed 

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over time. 
What else have you noticed in 

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this space offering more 
personalized care? 

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What have you noticed for your 
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I was going to hire somebody to 
do this and just manage it from 

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afar. 
You mean like a nurse 

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practitioner you were going to 
find? 

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It I just love the problem 
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it. 
The amount of time that I do 

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have to problem solve, the 
accessibility that I have to my 

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functional medicine provider. 
She's a nurse practitioner, 

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Chelsea Leveling. 
She's so smart. 

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She's so involved in patient 
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She really wants to get to the 
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their gut issues or hormonal 
issues. 

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I've learned so much from her 
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my past colleague and the owner 
of the functional health 

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practice. 
They do a really good job of not

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just saying, here's the 
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weeks. 
It's like, why is your blood 

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sugar high? 
What can we do about that? 

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Why do you have Hashimoto's? 
What can we do about that? 

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And that has really changed me 
as a practitioner. 

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I'm much more hesitant to just 
give somebody medication, ask 

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why a lot more. 
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of the scientific method is the 
asking why we've really gotten 

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away from that as providers. 
We've gotten way more focused in

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on plug and play. 
Problem fixed, problem solved. 

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We are so less focused on why 
aren't we? 

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Well, I can just imagine as a 
patient feeling like not only am

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I saving probably a ton on 
health insurance, but also just 

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getting better care because 
right now the current model is 

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not fit to really give providers
time with their patients and to 

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explain things like, you know, 
you have Hashimoto's 

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thyroiditis, you just had a 
baby. 

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Especially postpartum for moms, 
we're just thrown out there, 

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right? 
There's 16 week appointment 

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after a baby and then we never 
see the doctors again. 

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Figure it out. 
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women have increased rates of 
depression and all these 

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different things afterwards. 
Their guts are a mess. 

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They just had a baby and nobody 
spends any time with them. 

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And I feel like the functional 
medicine approach to really get 

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into how are you doing 
postpartum? 

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You know, how is your thyroid 
look, all the different things 

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for individualized care and 
asking the right questions. 

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I think I've noticed a lot in 
primary care. 

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It's just lacking. 
I'm not saying they all feel 

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this way, but I feel like a lot 
of them kind of just turn and 

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burn. 
OK, All right, you're fine. 

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OK, go. 
Absolutely, Yeah. 

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It's awful. 
And then women, I feel like, are

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made to feel like they're 
supposed to feel tired. 

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Of course you got to be. 
Of course you're supposed to 

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feel tired. 
You're that's right. 

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That's normal. 
The amount of times I've heard 

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women come in with labs and they
say their provider said this was

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normal. 
Like this is not normal. 

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You don't have to feel like 
this. 

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You don't have to walk around 
feeling like this. 

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And you know it's a catch 22 for
the turn and burn. 

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Providers of insurance doesn't 
allow them to spend that amount 

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of time with their patient. 
Do they have to see a patient 

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every 20 minutes? 
It's not a patient based 

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healthcare system anymore. 
Yes, I would agree that is a 

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pivotal thing to land on is that
the healthcare system is not. 

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Sometimes I feel like it's a 
little more outcome focused, but

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I don't really even think that 
we're meeting outcomes for 

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people because I don't think, I 
don't know what these in target 

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outcomes are because people 
along the way aren't feeling 

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better. 
So it's like, I don't know if 

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this outcome is really the thing
that we should be shooting for. 

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We need to be shooting for this 
target, hemoglobin A1C. 

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But it's like, yeah, but like, 
that's still not normal. 

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Like having to keep a glow is T 
less than 7 still means, like, 

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you're sick. 
You should have a glow with 

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anyone. 
See really. 

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Underneath 5. 
That's really where you go with 

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anyone. 
She should be. 

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But you don't even teach you the
things that you need to do to be

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well to have a hemoglobin A1C of
5. 

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We just tell you the goal of 
seven, here's some drugs to get 

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you there. 
And as long as you're there, 

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you're fine. 
And when you start to really go 

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down the rabbit hole and you 
start to read you're like, 

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damage is happening when you're 
when your blood sugars are above

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120. 
So we don't talk about those 

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things. 
Those are only things that you, 

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if you're really interested, you
find out about diabetes. 

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And so I go down those rabbit 
holes and I'm like, I did not 

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know the stuff that I knew now 
because of the experience that I

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had. 
How do you deal with difficult 

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situations with describing cost 
to patients and addressing 

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concerns about this model to 
people that are like, I don't 

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know if I believe in that. 
What do you say to those people?

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I found that instead of really 
talking about the calls, 

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patients respond better to the 
access. 

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They respond better to knowing 
that no matter what they need 

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from me, they're going to get 
it. 

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There's no extra fees, no extra 
billing. 

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I, I do think patients for the 
most part want somebody they can

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trust, not just a doc in the box
that they go to. 

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I think the majority of people 
have an issue, an underlying 

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issue that's not been treated. 
We're just accustomed to living 

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in a body that's uncomfortable 
for one reason or the other, and

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we've gotten used to it. 
I talked to patients about 

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Wellness and being proactive 
with Wellness instead of 

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reactive, avoiding sickness 
instead of having to treat it. 

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So we really focus on that. 
I feel like our, our center has 

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really morphed into that 
Wellness Center. 

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And so, yeah, I think the cost 
is it is something that most 

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people immediately say I have 
insurance. 

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I don't want to pay extra 147 a 
month. 

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But once they see kind of almost
have to experience the benefit 

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of being able to text your 
provider in the morning or being

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able to get whatever service it 
is that you need or questions 

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about your health answered, you 
know, within a couple of hours 

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from the person that takes care 
of you, I think it speaks for 

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itself. 
I know DPC practices are picking

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up all over the place. 
Practitioners are being really 

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sick of not being able to 
practice medicine because of the

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constraints were put under. 
I think that the more places 

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like this that are open, the 
more people will see it and 

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experience and be able to share 
that experience with other 

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patients. 
Yeah. 

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One of the things I was thinking
as you were talking was your 

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access to other things. 
So I hear you say we offer labs.

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I would say somebody needs an 
ultrasound or imaging. 

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You can order those where the 
patients in the mouth get the 

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imaging follow up and then refer
out to specialists if they need 

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it. 
Absolutely. 

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Functioning primary care office,
just that annual, that monthly 

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fee that's tagged on, but 
everything else is fully 

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functional. 
Right, right, right. 

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Care. 
Okay, yeah, absolutely. 

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There's nothing that our primary
care office can do that we can't

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do. 
Yeah. 

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And so we talked a little bit 
before the podcast about the 

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business side of things, right? 
So you're a nurse practitioner, 

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you understand all this stuff, 
how to take care of patients, 

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functional medicine, all that. 
But then you've got the business

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part, right? 
And that's a whole different 

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bird. 
How do you manage kind of 

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budgeting, marketing, all that 
stuff on top of seeing patients 

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and taking care of them? 
Yeah, luckily my business 

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partner has taught me a lot 
about that. 

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He had a lot of experience. 
This functional Health Center 

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was open for about 7 years 
before I joined. 

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He was a guiding light for me 
for sure. 

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I actually listened to the nurse
practitioner in Charleston that 

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does functional Wellness and 
direct primary care. 

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When he first approached me 
about this. 

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I got on her Facebook group and 
listened to a couple of her 

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talks. 
She said, you know, all you need

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to do is get your LLC, get in a 
building and get your 

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stethoscope and it's just you 
and your personality and your 

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practice and that's all you need
to start. 

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She was right. 
I didn't listen to her. 

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I bought all the bells and 
whistles, did everything, but 

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she was right. 
We recently opened our second 

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location in Charleston and I 
listened to her for that. 

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You know, you really just need 
yourself, your personality, your

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attentiveness, your care, your 
follow up and the people will 

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come. 
Now marketing, he already had 

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marketing in place. 
We split that. 

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We've realized going into 
Charleston, marketing needs to 

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be a little bit different there.
So we're looking at marketing 

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companies right now to help us 
with that. 

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I think good advice for people 
trying to do this is have 

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somebody else manage that for 
you because it's a lot to take 

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care of 250 patients and do the 
marketing and the business and 

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payroll and everything. 
Get support and delegate where 

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you can. 
One of the things you're 

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speaking to is freedom and time.
Freedom, right? 

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There's only so much capacity 
that you have. 

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I think for business 
entrepreneurs, in the beginning,

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you just think like, there's no 
money, so I've got to do it all.

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And sometimes there's a matter 
of just being like, there's no 

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money, but I need to do what I'm
good at and I need someone to do

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this part. 
Even if that means you make a 

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little bit less for a little bit
of time, it's worth it because 

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as that person that you hire 
does what they're supposed to 

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do, you're going to be making 
more money that begins to pay 

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for itself. 
You weren't stressed along the 

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way. 
It's taken me a while in the 

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podcast world and working in our
digital business as well. 

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Like it's super tough to just be
like, that's a lot of money to 

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walk out, like to wash, walk out
the door, but realizing that 

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turns into more money later. 
So we've got to just let that go

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because we can't do it all. 
There's only so much bandwidth. 

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So I think that's really good 
advice. 

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And I think the networking part 
that you were one of the things 

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I was thinking when you were 
talking to was like, how did you

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Now let's get back to the 

471
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,120
conversation. 
So the person that's your 

472
00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:11,920
business partner and owns a 
functional medicine practice, 

473
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,040
like how did you find him? 
Were you networking? 

474
00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,120
Did you just have like you met 
him? 

475
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,600
Because that's kind of a big 
deal to not have to start it 

476
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,240
organically, to have someone 
that's kind of already done the 

477
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,200
hard startup and you just get to
walk into it. 

478
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,760
And I'm not saying you just 
walked into it, but to be able 

479
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,160
to just kind of step alongside 
and just go like, all right, I'm

480
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,080
going to handle this part. 
You keep doing that. 

481
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,280
And then you're getting to kind 
of have some help with the other

482
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,360
things. 
Somebody to teach you. 

483
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,400
That's a big deal. 
I'd probably I'd probably set up

484
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:43,280
to make less money if I knew 
that that was it's going to be a

485
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,720
huge benefit and kind of like 
lessen the learning curve for 

486
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:47,320
me. 
Does that make? 

487
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,920
Sense Yeah, absolutely. 
It was huge he and I just 

488
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,840
happened to work together at a 
previous job and so we became 

489
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,640
really good friends He was the 
one that had the idea and I 

490
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,440
didn't even know what your 
primary care was. 

491
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,240
There are all these happy little
accidents that happened along 

492
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:04,160
the way and I'm just truly 
grateful for it. 

493
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,440
The DPC community is extremely 
helpful. 

494
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:13,960
If you want to do DPC, there is 
a network of providers that just

495
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,200
wholeheartedly believe in this. 
There are forums, there are 

496
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,080
conferences that will help you 
get set up, and I really think 

497
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:22,640
all it does is take reaching 
out. 

498
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,920
You can reach out to me and 
Charlotte. 

499
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,520
I just went to a meeting the 
other day and it is a very 

500
00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:32,240
successful DPC clinic. 
They are very big on supporting 

501
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,280
other DPC practices that are up 
and coming. 

502
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,920
There's a woman in Indian Land, 
South Carolina, which is close 

503
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,320
to Fort Mill. 
She does functional medicine as 

504
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,920
well as direct primary care and 
same thing. 

505
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,640
It's like open door. 
We want to help people and we 

506
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:50,000
only have the capacity to help 
because, and you think about it,

507
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,440
we don't have thousands of 
people at our clinic because I 

508
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,480
spend a lot of time with my 
patients. 

509
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,080
So there's a cap on how many 
people I can see personally and 

510
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,240
more access we can get for 
patients, the better. 

511
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,880
It's a supportive community of 
providers doing this. 

512
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,640
So how many patients do you have
in your list? 

513
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,040
So I know like some patients 
will say, like I had a 

514
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,080
physician, she worked as 
concierge medicine and she had a

515
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,360
cap. 
She's like, I only see 40 

516
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:18,800
patients and if each patient 
paying me 150 a month and this 

517
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,280
is my salary, it was very easy 
to see how much money she was 

518
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,480
making and she was crushing it. 
She wasn't stressed. 

519
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,680
Her phone was there. 
So when people called, she was 

520
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:30,400
available to do whatever. 
But what is your cap? 

521
00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,920
I mean, do you like, I can see 
400 or no, I've capped it like 

522
00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,560
50. 
Like what does that look like? 

523
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:39,880
I'm around somewhere between 200
and 250 right now. 

524
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,080
You have to think about it or 
not. 

525
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:46,400
I think Chelsea and functional 
medicine, she sees people. 

526
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,400
I mean, she's like doing some 
really big work, right? 

527
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,400
And regulating people's thyroids
with supplements and with 

528
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:56,200
lifestyle changes. 
I'm more of the primary care. 

529
00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,440
See me when you need to see me 
of those 250 patients. 

530
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,440
I don't see everybody every 
week. 

531
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,640
Some people I see once a year. 
Some people just have me as that

532
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,040
safety net. 
If they need me, I might hear 

533
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:11,040
from them when they need a 
refill or an annual visit. 

534
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:17,160
Of those 250 people, I would say
I probably talked to very 

535
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,840
regularly, maybe 50 to 60 of 
them. 

536
00:26:20,120 --> 00:26:21,680
So I really don't know what my 
cap is. 

537
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:26,200
I think that if I wasn't 
managing it, I could have a much

538
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,640
higher cap. 
I think trying to manage the two

539
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:33,840
offices, I'll probably cap out 
maybe around 300 or so because 

540
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,960
you're not seeing those patients
every single day. 

541
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,200
To your point, it's not 
stressful for me to check my 

542
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,560
phone as soon as I wake up at 
6:00 in the morning or before I 

543
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,680
go to bed. 
My cortisol is not high because 

544
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:49,480
I don't have that heavy influx 
of back-to-back to back patients

545
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,040
everyday. 
One of the things I was 

546
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,040
thinking, oh, the process when 
you have a new patient that 

547
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,440
comes in, does the other nurse 
practitioner in functional 

548
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,080
medicine see them first and then
you follow them? 

549
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,920
Like, all right, you got your 
initial functional medicine work

550
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,360
up and now I follow you for the 
primary care part. 

551
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,600
Or are you guys working in 
conjunction? 

552
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,840
Do patients bypass her and go 
straight to you? 

553
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,280
How does that system flow? 
It depends. 

554
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,040
If they come in just for primary
care, they only see me. 

555
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,000
We do have a lot of patients 
that say, hey, I'm more holistic

556
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,400
minded. 
I look to be treated 

557
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,880
holistically, but I don't have 
any real issues right now. 

558
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,320
This is just always the type of 
provider I've seen that they 

559
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,680
will also see me. 
Let's say you've been on thyroid

560
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,560
medication your whole life, but 
you are just out of whack. 

561
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:34,440
You're chronically fatigued, 
your labs look OK, but you don't

562
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,640
feel OK. 
Then you're going to go to 

563
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,720
Chelsea and we're going to look 
at your hormones and your gut 

564
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,760
and maybe see if there's 
something else going on. 

565
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,840
Like do you have mold? 
Do you have heavy metals? 

566
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,560
You know, there's just so many 
different things that are not 

567
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,440
looked at at all in Western 
medicine. 

568
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,120
It blows my mind. 
They'll see her now with her 

569
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,800
care plans. 
What we usually do is have them 

570
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,840
be a part of the primary care 
practice so they get access to 

571
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:03,040
me if they need me for something
like that, and our hope is that 

572
00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,240
when she finishes with them, 
they transition into primary 

573
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,000
care, which most of them have. 
So is the functional medicine 

574
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,480
part a separate charge or is it 
all included? 

575
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,880
Yeah, it's separate. 
It's completely separate. 

576
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,080
There's basically like two 
different departments in our 

577
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,600
clinic, but we share a lot of 
the same patients. 

578
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,880
That is so cool. 
But how you guys have structured

579
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,880
this is really neat. 
Like you're saying, they have 

580
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,320
individualized care. 
You don't necessarily need to 

581
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:28,000
see her always, but for that 
evaluation to get a really in 

582
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,200
depth look, go see her. 
She'll do that and then kind of 

583
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,680
ping pong back over here for 
your primary care. 

584
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Yeah, absolutely. 
It's not cheap because you're 

585
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,240
not having to see a functional 
medicine specialist and then go 

586
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,640
to your Western medicine primary
care and say I'm on rubbery. 

587
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:47,920
All these supplements that they 
do not know about. 

588
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:52,880
I think the younger generation 
of doctors, providers, nurse 

589
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,880
practitioners, PAS are starting 
to see the benefits of some 

590
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,280
herbal supplements. 
L theanine is being widely used 

591
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,200
with ADHD and anxiety, which is 
something we use very commonly. 

592
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,640
But I think for the most part if
you see an older generation of 

593
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,480
practitioners, they're like, 
that doesn't work. 

594
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,760
I don't know what that is 
because they haven't studied it.

595
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:18,440
No, not to be upset with them 
because they don't. 

596
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,880
It's something that they don't 
know about, but I do feel like 

597
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,080
the younger generation is more 
aware of gut health, full 

598
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,280
hormone health, etcetera. 
Yeah, I think that generation 

599
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,560
did a good job at creating 
skeptics and the rest of us, I 

600
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,160
mean, I was that kid that got 
told just get on birth control, 

601
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,200
you'll be fine and just take it.
You don't need to worry about 

602
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,520
anything. 
And I just remember trusting and

603
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,360
now I have a chronic health 
condition from taking birth 

604
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,000
control because these people 
were just like, don't worry 

605
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:50,240
about it. 
You don't need to think about 

606
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:51,680
it. 
Just turn your brain off. 

607
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,800
And then place that's telling 
you to turn your brain off as a 

608
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:58,280
patient is a problem. 
Like you don't need to go there.

609
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,560
What? 
Absolutely. 

610
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,720
I'm just like pissed. 
I'm beyond pissed about it 

611
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,600
because that's essentially what 
they do to women. 

612
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,480
Yeah, I think they do that to 
girls. 

613
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,640
There is a level of naivete that
I had that my mom, you know, 

614
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,040
kind of was just like the doctor
or the doctor tells you to take 

615
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,560
it, you take it. 
And so now I'm a 40, almost 40 

616
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,840
year old female. 
That's just like, why was I 

617
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,960
asleep at the wheel on my 
health? 

618
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,800
And so I think that I get really
passionate about this stuff 

619
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,880
because it really aggravates me.
You know, that generation just 

620
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:33,280
has this flippancy of just like,
trust me, because I went and got

621
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,960
an MD. 
I'm like, you don't know 

622
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,000
everything and not all y'all 
made straight A's. 

623
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,240
So just like calm down, explain 
it to me. 

624
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,640
Spend the time to explain why I 
need this, what the goals are, 

625
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,640
what the risk are and take that 
time in an appointment. 

626
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,480
I remember talking to there's a 
practitioner who put me on birth

627
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,000
control and just being like, I'm
kind of afraid of blood clots. 

628
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,040
And she was just like, it's too 
much. 

629
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,040
Take an anxiety pill, you're 
fine. 

630
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,960
And I'm like, no girls were 
dropping dead of this. 

631
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:00,360
They pulled it off the market. 
The first birth control I was 

632
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,280
ever on. 
And I just remember being 

633
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,040
innately afraid, but not knowing
why, and then having somebody 

634
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,400
completely write me off. 
And it was a nurse practitioner.

635
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,720
I think I was in nursing school 
when I was going to see her. 

636
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:16,120
And so it's just very 
disappointing that healthcare 

637
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,720
and medicine has moved that way.
But it infuriates me that 

638
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,440
physicians have used their 
positions and their knowledge 

639
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,800
base to just kind of, I don't 
know what it is to describe what

640
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,600
it is that they're doing, but it
just doesn't to just overwhelm 

641
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,720
you to just go like it doesn't 
matter. 

642
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,400
Just turn off your intuition. 
It's fine. 

643
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,400
And I think that a lot of 
patients, especially in this 

644
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,840
generation or just like, okay, 
listen dude, y'all have done a 

645
00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:42,520
bang up job. 
Like let us maybe take it from a

646
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,800
different angle because this is 
not working. 

647
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,000
We've never been sicker and I 
think it's really neat to hear 

648
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,280
that nurse, practice nurse could
be a part of that movement. 

649
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,080
We're patient centered and we 
can learn this and teach it to 

650
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,320
patients so that they can take 
care of their own health. 

651
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,360
And it's being proactive instead
of reactive. 

652
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,840
And it's your point. 
It is so frustrating for a 

653
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,680
patient to be dismissed by 
somebody that is supposed to be 

654
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,000
taking care of them. 
I told a patient this the other 

655
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,680
day, I think they were seeing a 
specialist. 

656
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,640
And specialist said, yeah, you 
don't need to take vitamin, 

657
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:16,120
vitamins don't do anything. 
And I said, well, if you're not 

658
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,880
getting the vitamins in your 
diet and you have a vitamin D 

659
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,240
deficiency, that can screw up 
everything as a provider, to 

660
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:29,040
pretend like you know everything
and to not be curious and 

661
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,240
inquisitive. 
We're constantly learning new 

662
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,560
things every day, and you should
be eager to learn that, to apply

663
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,800
that to the person sitting in 
front of you because that person

664
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,520
does trust you. 
And I don't want it to get to a 

665
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,520
point where people don't trust 
healthcare anymore. 

666
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,760
It's becoming that. 
Patients ask me, We do not push 

667
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:49,800
anything on patients. 
My whole thing, when a patient 

668
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:54,360
comes in, vaccination status is 
a huge controversial thing. 

669
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,520
I will ask the patient if 
they're vaccinated. 

670
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,800
I do not push it on them. 
It is the person sitting in 

671
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:02,240
front of me. 
It is their body. 

672
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,800
It is what they believe that 
they want to happen to them. 

673
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,440
It's not my body. 
It's not my decision. 

674
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,880
I can provide education if they 
ask for it. 

675
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,040
But even pharmaceutical 
companies, they're still out 

676
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,520
there practicing, seeing if 
things work. 

677
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:18,880
It's probably smart, like you 
said, to be innately afraid of 

678
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,320
some things. 
Probably smart to be innately 

679
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:25,840
afraid of a vaccine that we see 
so many side effects and 

680
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,800
consequences that have happened 
because it was rushed. 

681
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,160
I really take into account that 
person's individual experience 

682
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,920
and what they want out of their 
healthcare, and that's how we 

683
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,400
treat them. 
Lauren, we're going down a path,

684
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,720
my friend, that I feel pretty 
strongly about. 

685
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,040
We are being used to a certain 
extent. 

686
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,840
And what you were saying is if 
you don't like insurance 

687
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,200
companies, get on the least 
amount of insurance that you 

688
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,640
need to protect yourself and go 
get a healthcare provider that's

689
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,600
going to listen to you. 
Don't just get a healthcare 

690
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,640
provider that's not going to 
spend the time with you. 

691
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,960
Go get one that you can text a 
message if you want. 

692
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,680
It just kind of feels like what 
you're advocating for is 

693
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,200
liberty. 
Like, I just want you to be able

694
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,120
to get the information in the 
care that you need and deserve. 

695
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:11,360
Because as American people, we 
work our whole lives, We pay 

696
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,440
into these insurance companies 
for our whole lives, and then we

697
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,199
get to the end of our lives. 
We're sick, we're tired, and we 

698
00:34:18,199 --> 00:34:20,880
can't enjoy what we've been 
spending our whole lives working

699
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,280
for. 
I agree with you. 

700
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:26,440
When you see the stats on 
vaccines as well, it's very 

701
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,280
concerning that we advocate for 
these vaccines. 

702
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,840
Everybody needs them and then we
realize like, oh wait, not 

703
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,880
everybody needs them. 
There are actually other things 

704
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,360
that you can do to boost your 
immune system from a functional 

705
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:44,520
standpoint that can bring about 
sometimes even just as just as 

706
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,840
great benefit as a quote UN 
quote vaccine. 

707
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,440
And they don't talk about the 
fact that exercise works just as

708
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,320
well to boost your immunity as 
some of these vaccines. 

709
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,760
We don't talk about that. 
I tell my patients in practice 

710
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,360
now, go for a walk. 
Going for a walk will do more 

711
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,440
for your immune system than this
pill or that pill. 

712
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:04,720
A lot of patients are starting 
to push back. 

713
00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,840
There is a movement and I think 
that nurse practitioners have a 

714
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,800
unique opportunity to be on the 
forefront of this because we we 

715
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,720
have our pulse on the patient 
way more than other practices 

716
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,920
because we spend the time with 
them from our nursing 

717
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,360
background. 
What training would a nurse 

718
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,240
practitioner that's like, 
listen, I kind of want to buck 

719
00:35:23,240 --> 00:35:26,960
the system from the get like 
what training do I need before I

720
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,040
get into this? 
Because you know, you can work 

721
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,440
at a primary care office, but 
the functional medicine parts 

722
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,960
pretty specific. 
Did you do a functional medicine

723
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,480
course? 
Did you just spend time with the

724
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,800
functional medicine doctors? 
I just. 

725
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:39,920
Spent a lot of time with Doctor 
Riser and now with Chelsea 

726
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,280
Learning. 
I still learn new things 

727
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,760
everyday. 
A lot of the testing sites 

728
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:48,480
though, like Dutch testing which
is good for hormones, oats which

729
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,160
is organic acids which can 
pretty much show you every 

730
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,280
everything that you have in your
body. 

731
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,960
Those diagnostic testing sites, 
websites have a lot of 

732
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,760
information as well. 
I know that our functional 

733
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,120
medicine providers are 
functional medicine certified, 

734
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,240
so there is a certification that
goes along with that. 

735
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,760
They love what they do, love the
courses, love the learning. 

736
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,520
I also just went to a 
conference. 

737
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,520
We work a lot with compounding 
pharmacies. 

738
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,040
Making specific for genetics. 
Not a one-size-fits-all because 

739
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,440
everybody is so different. 
To your point about the 

740
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,760
vaccines, everybody's body is 
different and it's going to 

741
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,080
respond to that differently. 
We work a lot with the 

742
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:27,040
compounding pharmacies and they 
just allowed me to go to a 

743
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,880
conference on hormone 
replacement therapy that really 

744
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,400
talks about everything from 
bioidentical hormones to 

745
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,280
exercise and nutrition and 
things that we can do to just 

746
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,000
keep ourselves on the right 
track. 

747
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,520
That, you know, doesn't make the
pharmaceutical companies 

748
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:43,160
millions of dollars would cost 
us very little. 

749
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,280
Join a gym or go on a walk or 
eat the right amount of 

750
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,040
vegetables in a day. 
I'm just as passionate about it 

751
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,200
as you are. 
I think there is a shift and we 

752
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,640
really can be on the forefront 
of that shift. 

753
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:59,160
We, we are more bedside, you 
know, appropriate by nature. 

754
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,120
I feel like we just have a 
different outlook typically on 

755
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,520
patient care than our 
predecessors did. 

756
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:07,040
Yeah, I agree. 
I think that the world is moving

757
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,000
in that way and I think that's 
how direct primary care can be 

758
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,280
on the forefront of that. 
We can disrupt the insurance 

759
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:13,720
companies. 
Somebody's getting rich 

760
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:17,000
somewhere, and unfortunately 
it's not the people. 

761
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,480
Somebody's getting rich 
somewhere. 

762
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:22,560
And it's not, I mean, look at 
United Healthcare, they made $8 

763
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:27,200
billion and 8% of that went to 
providers. 

764
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,840
So 8% of your $8 billion goes to
the people that take care of 

765
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,120
you. 
It's why when people are paying 

766
00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,480
hundreds and thousands of 
dollars a month, not using it 

767
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,000
and still getting billed, 
because insurance is like, yeah,

768
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,280
don't need to cover that. 
Yeah, I still what I spend per 

769
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,880
month and then I still have 
co-pays. 

770
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,360
I don't even understand. 
Shouldn't this be included if 

771
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:51,720
I'm just going for this little 
thing or I'm going to get my 

772
00:37:51,720 --> 00:37:55,880
skin checked or I'm going, I 
don't understand why they're 

773
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,640
just absolutely nickel and 
diming us. 

774
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:03,400
And I think I do understand why 
there is a system that needs to 

775
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,640
be fed. 
We need to disrupt it and starve

776
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,200
it a little bit. 
Intermittent fasting, I've been 

777
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,560
told is good. 
So I think that direct primary 

778
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,360
care can really work to disrupt 
that system. 

779
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,640
And again, I know that you're 
enjoying owning your practice, 

780
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,560
being your own boss and taking 
care of your patients well. 

781
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,920
And how much more of a rewarding
career that is in the turn and 

782
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,400
burn of working in the hospital 
setting, barely taking time for 

783
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,760
your patients, dealing with all 
the other bureaucracy and not 

784
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,200
providing optimal care. 
I struggle with that in my 

785
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,080
practice, the care for patients.
And I'm like, I don't really 

786
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:39,240
feel like I'm providing you good
care when I see how obese you 

787
00:38:39,240 --> 00:38:40,800
are. 
And I'm just telling you that 

788
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,320
this is going to fix all your 
problems. 

789
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,000
I know that the care I'm 
providing is suboptimal. 

790
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:48,440
It does require a silencing of 
your conscience, right? 

791
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,280
Just get through the visit. 
And I've just gotten to the 

792
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,360
point now where every patient 
leaves with books. 

793
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,560
I'm like, I can't lie to you. 
Go read this like Benjamin big 

794
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,480
man, why we get sick and some of
the patients their wives were 

795
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:02,240
called. 
So what did you tell Mister? 

796
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,680
There was on about 3 different 
books that he's reading and I'm 

797
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,080
like, perfect. 
Yes, I took care of this medical

798
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,640
me that you know from the FDA 
was approved. 

799
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,400
But then also I was like, let me
arm you with knowledge because 

800
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,520
that's the only thing I can do 
to ameliorate my conscience. 

801
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,440
I don't have to do that, but it 
just makes me feel good about 

802
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,480
doing my role as a provider at 
my current job. 

803
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,840
Tell me your own words what it 
means for you to have this role 

804
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,040
as a nurse practitioner and the 
empowerment you feel with owning

805
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,120
your own business. 
I think that's what we got into 

806
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,960
this field for. 
No one goes into nursing and 

807
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,160
then the MP world because we 
don't like people. 

808
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,520
We don't want to care for them 
to the fullest. 

809
00:39:44,520 --> 00:39:47,920
It really is a caregiver role. 
I want to help everybody. 

810
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,520
It feels like I just want to do 
this for everyone. 

811
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:55,080
I want to get everybody out of 
this assembly line medicine. 

812
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,320
I want everybody to be able to 
let us take care of their health

813
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,320
so they can worry about their 
jobs and their children's and 

814
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,280
their families and really live 
that. 

815
00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,040
Live their fullest and their 
best life. 

816
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,120
Every day is not perfect. 
Some things are hard. 

817
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:12,840
Sometimes I don't do a good job 
and I regret it or I'd have to 

818
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:16,000
go back and do more. 
For the most part, having the 

819
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,240
autonomy to be able to practice 
the way I want to, not the way 

820
00:40:19,240 --> 00:40:24,360
someone else tells me I have to,
has just been very fulfilling. 

821
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,360
I could never go back working 
and that bureaucracy, I'm so 

822
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,880
fulfilled. 
It makes my personal life more 

823
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,600
fulfilled. 
It you're just as a great full 

824
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,800
circle. 
I kind of struggled at finding 

825
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:41,400
my identity after I received my 
masters and where I wanted to be

826
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,480
and what I wanted to do. 
This is it. 

827
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:47,720
So it and and then the pride, 
the stress obviously with the 

828
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:51,280
pride that comes with it being 
your own is really special. 

829
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,440
Yeah, that's really cool. 
You kind of touched on it 

830
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,520
briefly, but if you could go 
back and do one or two things 

831
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,280
differently, if you could have 
said this lesson is something 

832
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,320
that I learned that was huge for
my career, what would you say is

833
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,000
something that you would leave 
us with? 

834
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,680
Love this. 
I really thought I had to do the

835
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:15,040
hardest job possible. 
I made work harder than it had 

836
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,640
to be. 
Whether it was the floor that I 

837
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,760
picked in the hospital, I would 
come home with it. 

838
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:25,680
I was grumpy. 
I'd work 13 hours and not feel 

839
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,400
like I'd done anything, and I 
could feel myself just being so 

840
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,960
negative. 
If your job is making you feel 

841
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,360
negative and you're negative in 
other aspects of your life 

842
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,000
because of your job, it's not 
the right place. 

843
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,320
You're not giving the care that 
you were meant to give. 

844
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,760
I worked a lot of jobs where I 
was not happy and didn't feel 

845
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,160
like I was doing the right thing
or doing enough. 

846
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,440
If you feel like that, there are
other places you can go. 

847
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,760
The opportunities are absolutely
endless for what you can do. 

848
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:57,680
I love what you've come on and 
shared about because I had never

849
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,680
heard of this. 
I've heard of it, but I didn't 

850
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,960
even know it conceptually. 
When you don't hear someone's 

851
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,880
journey, you don't see the 
physical person in front of you,

852
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:10,520
when you don't feel the energy 
that they're giving you, it just

853
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,840
all seems very abstract and 
otherworldly. 

854
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,120
But then whenever you chat with 
someone that's looking you down 

855
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,920
in your face and being like, 
this is what I do, I'm living 

856
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,760
proof. 
Like I'm not making it up. 

857
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,960
It's not some concept. 
It's not this far reaching 

858
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,880
thing. 
It's right here, right now. 

859
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,560
You know someone who's doing it.
It changes the atmosphere around

860
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,040
something and it makes you feel 
like it's doable. 

861
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:33,160
Like why don't I consider this? 
Why haven't I thought about 

862
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:35,440
this? 
Why am I afraid of this when 

863
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,600
somebody else is doing it? 
So I think it is great that you 

864
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,880
came on today and shared 
everything that you're doing and

865
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,320
you're so transparent. 
I love what I do and it's 

866
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,600
changed how I look at life 
overall because your work is a 

867
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,800
big part of what you do. 
So if you don't like it, you've 

868
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,160
got to change it and you've got 
the perfect degree to do 

869
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,720
something else. 
You don't just have a plug and 

870
00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:01,320
play now you've got a mirror out
of options and I love that 

871
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,440
you've showcased that today. 
Thank you so much, Lauren, for 

872
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:04,080
coming on. 
I. 

873
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,800
Want to thank you and thanks for
your energy and passion too. 

874
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,760
It's great to see other people 
in the field that feel the same 

875
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,240
way. 
So tell people where they can 

876
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:15,400
find you, Lauren. 
So you can find us our website 

877
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:23,760
isshccarolinas.com and that is 
our same Instagram tag as well. 

878
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,520
Chelsea and I do a really good 
job up there of giving little 

879
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,960
tidbits of information during 
allergy season or flu season, 

880
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,880
just little bits of information 
that are fun to browse through. 

881
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,600
I'm sure there's something that 
pertains to you. 

882
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,080
And then we also Functional 
Health Center the Carolinas is 

883
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:44,120
also on Facebook. 
We are located in Fort Mill, SC 

884
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,160
and Charleston, specifically 
Mount Pleasant, SC as well. 

885
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,280
Very good. 
And for the success, I'll put 

886
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,760
put all her stuff in the show 
notes so you can find her if you

887
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,120
want to reach out to her. 
The success MP quote for today 

888
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,800
is coming together as a 
beginning. 

889
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:01,000
Keeping together as progress and
working together is success. 

890
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,760
They're all about success here. 
What does your career look like?

891
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,520
What is success look like for 
you as an earth practitioner? 

892
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:07,680
It looks different for all of 
us. 

893
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:10,560
It's not the same. 
And so the author of that quote 

894
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,600
is Edward Hale. 
I have to remember we have to do

895
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,560
rapid fire. 
Lauren, Are you ready for rapid 

896
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,520
fire? 
I'll do my best. 

897
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:20,200
You had to pick an actress to 
play you on TV. 

898
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,520
What would it be? 
Who would she be? 

899
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:22,920
Who? 
Or he awfully. 

900
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:23,880
We're not. 
We're not doing that. 

901
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,000
We're keeping the genders. 
Who would she be? 

902
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,720
OK. 
Kristen Bell. 

903
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,280
I totally see that. 
Yeah. 

904
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,560
And then you have to give a book
to somebody. 

905
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:38,080
This book, this for you is what 
you would give to anybody that 

906
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:39,880
needed a book. 
What book would you get? 

907
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:42,880
Change your life. 
Let's talk. 

908
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Change your life. 
I don't read a lot of 

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nonfiction. 
Atlas Shrugged book that's like 

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this thick. 
It's old, but it's, I don't 

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know, it's pretty. 
It's pretty political, but it 

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examines all sides of politics 
and I like it. 

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Love that. 
And for the last one, what was 

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your very first job ever you 
ever done? 

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I worked in a chiropractor's 
office when I was 16. 

916
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My dad was going to see a 
chiropractor and I worked in his

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office doing SOAP notes. 
Thank you for your time today. 

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Thanks for hanging out guys. 
Thanks for hanging out on the 

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Success and P podcast. 
Enjoy your week. 

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Thank you. 
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episode of Success and P. 
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shed some light on the diverse 
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to improve your clinical 
practice as a nurse 

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00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,360
practitioner. 
Remember, whether you're 

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considering a specialization, 
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certifications, or exploring non
traditional roles, there's a 

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wealth of opportunities out 
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curious, and keep advancing your
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And just a friendly reminder, 
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