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Welcome to the doctor nurse 
podcast. 

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I'm your host, dr. 
Sandra contenta. 

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I'm a doctor, Lee prepared nurse
practitioner. 

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And I am so glad you decided to 
join me today. 

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The doctor nurse podcast is a 
podcast for nurses and nurse 

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practitioners that are wanting 
to understand what exactly their

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degrees can do for them. 
After the birth of my son, I had

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this baking desire to have more 
flexibility in my career 

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choices. 
Despite feeling like all the 

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alphabet soup, after my name 
didn't really afford me. 

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Me very many options, I launched
the podcast to find the answers 

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that I, so desperately needed. 
I also knew I couldn't be the 

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only nurse who felt this way. 
This is sound like you, if so, 

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come and hang out with me as I 
figure out what our nursing 

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degrees can give us access to, 
as far as career flexibility 

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control, over our schedules and 
Entrepreneurship my talking with

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NPS and our friends who are 
doing exactly that. 

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Sit back and enjoy the 
conversation. 

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I doctor nurse Park. 
As Nation. 

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Welcome to the podcast. 
Today we are chatting with 

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Joelle Jean. 
She graduated from New York 

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University in 2005, the 
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worked. 
And in general, pediatric, 

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emergency room, labor and 
delivery experience, then she 

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went back after looks like 10 
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master's degree became a family 
nurse practitioner and she's now

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a full-time senior writer for 
the nurse Journal dot-org. 

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She lives in New York City with 
her husband and two. 

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Two adorable children and cat 
named Zuzu, welcome to the 

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podcast, thank you for having 
me. 

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I'm so excited to chat with you 
about what you're doing because 

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I've had multiple nurse writers 
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because I feel like there's a 
lot of flexibility and there's a

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lot of things you can do with 
it, wanders is unaware, so I 

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can't wait. 
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So let's dive in. 
So kind of describe to my 

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listeners, what it is that you 
do as a full-time senior nurse 

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writer and kind of Your job 
looks like day in day out. 

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Yeah. 
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basically the whole process is 
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interviewers and then writing 
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So, I have it's a very small 
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there's meat of the internal 
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Then I work with copyeditors, 
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it, goes through publishing and 
then the article comes. 

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We meet about, you know, Twice a
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Well, I'm sorry, bi-weekly. 
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on what is trending in nursing. 
I write for their blog, it's the

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news and advice Blum. 
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whatever I find is very dear and
near to my heart. 

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I will pitch the idea either 
vote yea or nay and then we you 

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know go out and find interview 
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interview. 
I rights are I did research on 

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the article then goes through 
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then it starts over over again. 
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journal. 
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Like it's daily. 
An article goes out do. 

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Wow. 
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content every day. 
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Okay. 
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website and seeing the staff, 
you're the only nurse on the 

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staff. 
Correct. 

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Yes, I am a nurse there on the 
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It's a small team. 
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change, but yeah, it's they 
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expert rider for the site and 
serendipitously serendipitously.

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I ended up getting the role 
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year prior to that, I met 
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she's at the right nurse on 
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where she was looking for a 
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And I've always loved writing 
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love love, love writing but I 
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but I still wrote on the side 
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Porsche and she basically 
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she was a nurse. 
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African-American, and I was 
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what I want. 
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freelance writing with her for 
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position came up right at the 
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I was a nurse practitioner in a 
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You two babies during, and I 
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Home Care on top of work, and no
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It's, I know, I think I have 
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because I'm trying to think 
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mother loved, like, I block it 
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Yeah, I try not to think about 
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very instrumental during that 
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One did homeschool I mean remote
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just turning once like right at 
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So he wasn't in school or 
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took them, my husband and I when
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take care of them and when I was
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from, I know this is going in a 
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No, no this is important. 
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what you had to do. 
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in health care to, so in the 
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She took them for six weeks. 
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over, we have to see them 
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Like it was so Thomas because we
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We didn't want. 
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in healthcare. 
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So we didn't want to get them 
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We didn't want to get her sick. 
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until we figure out what's going
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You guys, I'll take care of 
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So she took them for six weeks. 
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every couple of days. 
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Made it through goodness. 
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And then, during that I was 
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like, oh, this position came up 
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and the rest is history. 
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that it actually kind of gets 
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know, where you're kind of in 
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in healthcare. 
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You're working from home, right?
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take your kids back from your 
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So yeah you can bring them home 
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be a full-time mom again and you
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How did you get to this specific
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As you've been kind of going 
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you know, emergency room, 
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delivery and then just kind of 
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Like I don't think I want to be 
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I don't think I want to be 
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type work. 
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I'm a nurse practitioner. 
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That's one of the biggest things
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I don't miss the Brianna 
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I miss my patients terribly. 
How writing has always been a 

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passion of mine like forever for
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I always loved creative writing.
I wanted to be a children's book

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writer for a really long time. 
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and everything then I realized 
how hard It was, and I was like,

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it's really hard to get 
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surprising because I'll read 
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kid. 
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child's book I've ever yet. 
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its so. 
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line between like Goodnight Moon
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books. 
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really well-known children's 
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So yes, a lot of it is who, you 
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know, but but it's a lot of 
work, like putting in all those 

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queries. 
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literary, you know, you have to 
like creary your work which is 

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like send the letter out to 
pitch your idea and then get 

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picked up. 
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I gave up too early, but let's 
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 
Like you could come up with a 

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nurse book or some don't give up
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And like minorities to. 
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minority children. 
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mine, but, you know, yeah, I was
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said, early and a lot of it had 
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right? 
So you think like, I'm not that 

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good of a, right? 
Like I can write, but I'm not 

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the best. 
I don't write for the New York 

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Think like, oh, I have to be 
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written. 
Well, Red establish writer, but 

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in actuality the reader, just 
once fast, you know? 

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So as long as you can get that 
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and it flows really well that 
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So being with Porsha really 
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syndrome, like me submitting an 
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you think? 
She's like Joelle, just let it 

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go. 
It's fine. 

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It's good. 
It's elegant, it's published. 

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Once you see that happening over
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okay. 
Well maybe I do kind of know 

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what I'm doing. 
I went for this role. 

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I had a portfolio. 
Luckily of art were already 

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published and I was a nurse. 
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written for me. 
So so I really, you know, I went

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for it and that's where I am 
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Yeah. 
Well this journey is you've been

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kind of getting to this spot as 
nurse writer, there's been 

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moments that have been hard. 
When was that have been easy? 

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Would you give me an example of 
a moment kind of What you said 

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like with the Imposter syndrome 
or a situation that happened 

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that you're like maybe I'm not 
cut out for this but then you 

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just kept persevering you kept 
pursuing. 

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Yeah, your dream. 
Yeah I think I think a lot of it

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has to do with like constructive
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When you start getting that in 
the beginning, you're like, oh 

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my God, maybe I don't know what 
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Maybe it's not the best work but
it's really just crafting you to

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be a better writer like you. 
Just because you forgot a comma,

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but does it mean or it's in 
passive tense versus active 

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tense? 
Like, doesn't mean you don't 

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know what you're doing. 
It's just that building up that 

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confidence and knowing like, you
know what you're writing is 

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really for the audience. 
I don't have, I mean, there are 

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some articles that I right now 
that my editor was like, hmm, 

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maybe it needs a little bit, 
something more, like we need 

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like a little bit more, you 
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Our interview quotes or 
something like that. 

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So that's when you're like, oh, 
you your, your ego gets a little

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bruised. 
But, other than that, I haven't 

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had anything super duper 
traumatic. 

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Yeah. 
What you're describing is the 

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ability to get feedback and to 
see it as a gift and to see it 

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as something that is making you 
stronger. 

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And stead of like, man, I'm not.
This isn't for me. 

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I'm not doing this. 
Like I'm not getting five-star 

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ratings every single time. 
You still have to keep going. 

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Even though that piece wasn't 
your best work or, you know, 

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they think something else might 
need to be at, it'll help. 

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Grow your skill set and a bit 
more. 

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Yeah, definitely. 
Yeah, no, I was going to say 

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that. 
It's just so, opposite from 

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nursing like nursing, it's like,
life or death. 

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Right. 
So you kind of really, really, 

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no need to know what you're 
doing. 

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And I think I took that with me 
in this new role like, you, you 

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know, self-criticism, like, you 
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whatever. 
But you learn like, okay, you 

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could just erase what you wrote 
and rewrite it and perspective. 

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Do you want to think that you're
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You don't have to have and carry
that weight of I'm not perfect. 

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It's like no I could just raise 
it in, right? 

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Yeah. 
I think it's really good. 

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That you said that you had 
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Is there a than anybody else? 
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Yeah, my I mean, my number one 

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fan is my husband. 
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So supportive and all my 
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and whatever I pursue, which is 
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so, my dad's, like writing, like
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care of patients, you know? 
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super curious about what I'm 
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article about like nursing 
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experience of how they, how hard
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that camaraderie. 
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ribbon of how, you know? 
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they loved loved nursing and I 
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Privileged enough to actually 
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I love like. 
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Just like being able to tell 
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nurses and then they get here 
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because you create content 
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now to being a travel nurse. 
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doesn't even know that they want
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nurse or not a nurse like you 
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Through all the stata journal is
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That's like I don't even know 
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nursing school. 
I don't even know pitch, your 

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nurse journal dot-org to my 
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Why would I check out what she's

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about like uplifting the nurse 
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We want to grab you at all mouth
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many, like, maybe eight or ten, 
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student, you can either become a
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nursing you could decide to be a
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And we just really try to 
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like the resource that everyone 
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experienced nurses. 
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the On the career, then, you 
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I want to go do something else, 
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by Minors, you have nursing 
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What would you tell yourself? 
That's a great question. 

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like now, I know there's so many
Avenues to nursing you literally

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can do anything with a Nursing 
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I think I would explore a little
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I'll I stayed in the emergency 
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loved everyone I worked with so 
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years because you're just like 
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that's true. 
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experience more of like the tech
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informatics just figuring out 
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that is about just not to not to
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your first couple of years, but 
not to be afraid to explore 

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other options. 
This, you know, like we were 

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talking earlier like we are so 
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everything. 
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try new things and if it doesn't
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always a nursing job waiting for
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There's a shortage. 
Yeah, it will still be there. 

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It will still. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah. 
No, it's true. 

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So many nurses. 
Get on say that exact same theme

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of like, Don't worry, there's 
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to just kind of step back into 
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So why would you stay if you're 
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Because that will always be 
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So go, try this thing that might
find enjoyment in and I agree 

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with you. 
The right boss, the right 

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people, the right there, all the
things that you need to have a 

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really, really good career and a
job that you don't want to 

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leave. 
If you're missing any of those 

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elements, your boss is not great
with the people that you work 

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with are great or it's just not 
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whatever it is that you're 
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Going to be miserable at your 
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good thing for a nurse to hear. 
Just that, it's okay. 

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If you really like where you're 
working, you like, who you work 

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with and you stay a little bit 
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good. 
I think that's important and 

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it's sometimes really, really 
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So, if you find it, hold on to 
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And so, for the last part of the
interview is the rapid fire 

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questions. 
Are you ready? 

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I'm ready. 
Alrighty! 

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Alrighty, so we already know 
your favorite subject in school 

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was creative writing. 
Yeah. 

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What was one subject that you 
didn't like? 

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Like learning in school. 
Oh my God, there's so many. 

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I well, you know what? 
I wasn't the best student. 

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Like I really I really wasn't. 
I was I loved to write, I loved 

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like Communications marketing. 
All that stuff. 

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The things that probably was my 
worst subject. 

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Oh my God. 
I loved psychology but it was 

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introduction to psychology. 
Yes. 

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What so hard I had to take it 
because it was so cute. 

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Shouldn't twice. 
Yeah. 

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Contrition twice to because 
Nixon another one, you're like, 

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oh I know how to eat. 
Eat not doing well, dropping it 

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look. 
I know that you're saying you 

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like calorie counting time 
beating, but the nutritional. 

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Yeah. 
Okay, we can't even figure it 

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out. 
Imagine like the regular person.

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Oh yeah, what a disaster? 
Yeah, it's totally a bad stuff, 

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but I remember that class. 
That was one, I struggled with 

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an intro to psychology. 
Ecology statistic? 

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Yes, that sounds. 
Another one and make you take it

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every year to was like, oh, 
Healthcare stats. 

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And it's like, come on cash, 
never use that. 

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Why did I have to? 
I'm just kidding. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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What was your very first job 
that you ever took ever laughter

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ever? 
I think it was. 

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I babysitting, I guess it would 
be. 

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Yeah babysitter. 
If you had to give a book to 

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someone, what would be a book 
that you would just Like this 

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one, I love that outliers or 
he's a liar but Michael. 

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Yeah, I'll come Gladwell. 
Who do good. 

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Like if you think you can do 
something and you're afraid just

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go ahead and do it because these
people were not supposed to do 

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what they ended up doing and 
there were successful at it. 

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There was a need and they went 
for it and it's a great book. 

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Yes, I love Malcolm Gladwell. 
He writes to other books that I 

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love, it's called blink that 
book fire. 

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If you've never read it, it'll 
blow your mind. 

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And then the other one is David 
and Goliath a sponge around 

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anything. 
He says, I'm like, yeah, I like 

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absorb what it is. 
That you're saying and talking. 

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Yeah. 
Because he's just so smart. 

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It's based on like fact. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It's one of those statistics 
that we hated it. 

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So we're glad he loved it. 
Difficult Concepts. 

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Just really easy to understand 
and put it in ways that you can 

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just better palatable like that 
were it was so wonderful 

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chatting with you today. 
Thanks for coming on the podcast

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and describing and sharing what 
what it is that you do, and how 

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you've developed your career and
how you found something that 

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lights you up inside, that 
brings you Joy. 

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And yeah, gives you the kind of 
life that you want. 

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That's what this podcast is all 
about. 

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It's about hearing stories from 
other nurses went For their 

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dreams. 
They just went for it and 

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sometimes that's 
entrepreneurship. 

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Sometimes, that's this role that
they didn't even know existed. 

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Or they didn't even know that 
they could morph their career 

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into and it's going for it and 
giving it all. 

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You got Not Looking Back. 
Burning the ships. 

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Yes going on, burning the ships,
man. 

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That going forward. 
You get more feel more confident

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with experience. 
So it's like, even if you know, 

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now we're at I'm at that stage 
where I'm like, okay, yeah, for 

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the dream. 
Yeah. 

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And again, I can't wait to see 
you when you write your 

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children's book because I think 
that it up that dream of not 

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going. 
Well, let's see, let's see. 

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But I would love you. 
I would love to write about you 

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your project. 
So definitely I will reach out 

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and definitely puts an article 
about that. 

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Oh, that would be awesome. 
I would love that. 

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I can totally be a, I'm totally 
be down for that. 

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So just let me know. 
Okay, alrighty guys, thanks for 

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listening to the podcast today. 
Check out Joelle, check out, 

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check her out on Tag her and all
her social media account. 

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So that you can see what she's 
doing. 

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Check out the nurse Journal 
dot-org. 

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Because again, like I said, 
there's a ton of information on 

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there if you were thinking about
roll switching roles. 

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So you want to go for that nurse
practitioner role. 

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They've got all the stuff on 
there that you need to be 

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successful and to be able to 
figure it out, you don't have to

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work really hard and they did 
the work for you. 

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So check them out guys. 
And as always enjoy the journey,

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hey, Emma, Emma package. 
I love you mama, and thankfully 

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to me. 
So, That's a wrap. 

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does not represent medical or 
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