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She is An outpatient Urology nurse practitioner with over 13
years of experience in both the end in the outpatient settings
with a subspecialty training and epilepsy and headache disorders.
She continues with her clinical practice, but she also works as
a nurse nurse. Practitioner Mentor, educator
content creator, speaker, clinician and well-being,
Advocate. She's also a social media leader
on topics related to nurse and nurse practitioner well-being,
and burnout. And she being a burnout
Survivor, cultivated a deep passion for teaching other
exhausted clinicians how to find a better work-life integration
as well as a stronger sense of self.
And she is the mother of two adorable children, who keep her
on her toes. She's a self-proclaimed boundary
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I welcome Diana to the podcast today.
Welcome doctor nurse podcast listeners.
Today, I Anna is here to chat about her nursing experience and
how she started her business Catalyst for self-care.
We've been stalking each other on Instagram.
So I'm so glad to finally meet you.
I know I love all y'all. I've been like so torn down on
Rios. I need to get back in because I
was like I assume some self-care.
Okay. I think you can understand.
I'm so happy to finally, be sure is exciting so let's Dive Right
In for my listeners. That are like, wait I've never
heard of Diana Page, what is she about?
Tell us a little bit about what your job, and you've got a
couple job titles of which one of one of which is Mom, but of
the other ones that you've got going on, kind of describe to my
listeners. What you do for a living?
Sure. I so my primary job is I'm a
nurse practitioner, I work and outpatient neuro.
I predominantly treat patients who have epilepsy and headache
disorders. So that's kind of my, my Niche
would invite job. I've been doing it now for
almost 13 years, which is crazy type of life cycle lanes, and
I'm also the founder of self-care catalyst.
So that is my side hustle if you will, but it's my passion
project. It's a company that really
provides resources for self-care burnout prevention, like nurse
nurse practitioner. Her well-being.
It's like a One-Stop shop for all things.
Health care, provider, wellness, and I'm a mentor to nurses in a
PPS and a speaker, all the things.
Yeah. And then also Mom wife.
And yeah, just taking care of. You know, something's what we
love here. The doctors podcast is nurse
practitioners that are working in their field, but then also
doing the side hustle game, right?
And I love that because it could be, is it begins to grow your
side household? The thing that allows you to
kind of step away more and more from what can be?
Very draining Hospital job work. So, how did you get started?
Teaching others about self-care. What was your experience with
needing software that made you go?
I think I want to go into this. This as my side has, okay.
Yeah, great question. So I'm actually a burnout
Survivor myself in my person hijab.
I burned out pretty, pretty hardcore, mostly because I was
in a relatively toxic work environment, which I didn't
really recognize at the time, because this is stuff.
They don't teach you in school. Not like an MP nursing school.
They're like, oh, hey, by the way, these are the Red Flags.
Like, he's with things too, like do to not do.
Like these are ways to set boundaries.
These are all things I now teach because I like feel super
strongly that we should be talking about these things in
school. So that we are prepared when we
go into the workplace, but I was under prepared.
Unfortunately, I had a little bit of imposter syndrome.
I was a bit of a yes, person to try to like, you know, be the
team player and be kind of a valued member of the team, and I
just worked a lot. And my employer, unfortunately,
took advantage of that willingness to work.
So I burned out took me about four years to see it.
It kind of took me by surprise, what were some of the symptoms
that you were noticing. So all the things Zayn.
Oh no. And again, teach on in terms of
burnout. So exhaustion that really
doesn't respond to like your usual methods of boosting
yourself up. You know, it's like oh like
exercise usually works for me or hanging out with friends.
As you know, usually works for me but like it wasn't.
I was just kind of a miserable. This kind of miserable all the
time crying in my car. A lot just dreading work every
single day. Like you just leave a like
before you even get there. I was like, just really pathetic
to be honest, which is another very common symptom of a
burnout. So just feeling like, well, what
like what does it matter anyway? Like nothing I do really matter
just feeling like you're not having that impact that as
nurses and nurse practitioners and Healthcare Providers.
Like what we feel we want to have if we go into this because
we want to make a difference and we want to help people and
change the trajectory of their Healthcare and I wasn't feeling
that way, which felt really terrible and I actually almost
Left nursing, like maybe this is just for me.
Because again, I had no frame of reference because again, you
don't learn what's normal. What's not like in school, which
I really think is a disservice to all of us.
I left that job. Moved back.
Home to where I grew up Merida. Manor, which helped he said,
married to what? I'm married to Manor, which
helps, because we live in me. Okay, okay, got you.
Okay, so let's go back to me. He's like, oh yeah, moved back
home. And I got a great job here which
is the job. I've been in Now, 49.
A job. But it is exhausting, right?
So what happened the the Catalyst, if you will for my
self-care Catalyst business? Was that I had kids?
And finally, my kids are old enough for I was like, looking
around like, we're connecting with people and most of the
people that I went to grad school ways and my friends were
like completely burned. I'm like, how are we letting
this happen? Like this is ridiculous and in
the time from when I left that first job to when I started here
and like these years have passed, like I did a lot.
A lot of my own like personal work like boundaries work like a
lot of mindset were all of the stuff.
I now teach like really a lot of confidence.
Boosting activities building that confidence.
Muscle working in a posture syndrome.
All those things. Did you do that by just your own
kind of self-help? Did you have like a professional
therapist come in and kind of help you navigate?
Yeah. Or did you just kind of do the
work on your own? A lot of it was work on my own,
like, I'm a big, I'm a big jerk earlier.
So I would like do a lot of like journaling.
I did like, you know, Yoga journaling classes.
I did have a therapist for a little while which was great.
Highly recommend. I did a lot of reading a lot of
podcasts, a lot of like just knowledge, like sponge type of
thing and then later on, I've worked with mentors, I've had
coaches, which has been phenomenal.
So yeah, a lot of, a lot of all of the above, check all the
boxes. Yes.
Yeah. Which is great because a lot of
times you don't know what you don't know.
Till you're really like in it and you're like, you get
curious, right? And then you learn Things.
You're like, oh my God, this totally makes sense for me.
I feel so much more empowered. I feel like I'm not alone but
that's one of my big things with my business is I always say we
are not meant to do life rehearsing alone because a lot
of it is community and knowing that everything you're feeling
is totally valid and it's not permanent and we're stronger
together. This whole like nurses, eat
their young or burnout culture Turn and Burn culture.
Like that's cool like I'm over that like we need to like
Empower each other and lift each other up like Together create
change, you know, use our voices and be empowered and confident
and say like no, this isn't working for me.
You know, set those boundaries self Advocates, say like this is
what I need and that's a that's what I'm so.
So anyway, so the business evolved from there because I saw
everyone around me and I'm like I was going to start a blog and
like right on these topics because I have knowledge that I
can share. That might help somebody.
That's kind of where it started that was like, right before
kobuk. This was like end of 2019 and
then obviously the World shifted and nurses needed more support.
And I was like I'm gonna rally man likes what every single day.
I turned content out like connecting with nurses all over
the country and Canada other countries just saying you know
hey like how can I support you what resources do you need?
And that I decided to create my program because I was like,
okay, well, then I can bring these women together for
community and learning and so that's kind of how it evolved
and it's fantastic. I love it.
What are the things I talked about?
Just In the podcast, I launched out yesterday, was the need for
community. And I love how you keep coming
back to that because nurses have this scarcity mindset, and I'm
really into, like, abundance versus scarcity mindset.
And really shifting, because I think that because we are quote
unquote, an oppressive type position, nurses, are an
oppressive mindset, we're take orders from the doctors, we're
kind of don't have our own autonomy.
We're just told to do what the doctors say.
And that's kind of starting to change, right?
We're just kind of like, well, well, you don't know what you're
always doing. So, no.
And we're starting to learn our voice and get our voice back as
nursing has been kind of, I think, turning out more educated
nurses. I think that shift of like,
okay, I have something to say. I have a voice in my part of the
team that mindset is starting to change.
But I think before, because we were kind of, in this oppressive
role again, being subordinate to Physicians, not seen as an equal
member of the team, we then looked to oppress the younger.
And that we're coming up right because it's just classic
oppression wanting to oppress because you want to feel a level
of power. As you're getting these roles,
the needle is starting to change because we're like know if we
want to voice we've got to give it to all of us.
We can't just think only a subset of us.
Have a voice. All of us need to Rally together
and have a voice together. And so, I love that you're
describing about Community because we need to keep that
mindset. Always that if somebody next to
me is winning that just means we're winning.
No, not necessarily that she's winning and I'm losing and not
the mindset. And so, again, scarcity, versus
abundance thinking, the more I help, others get to places that
I might have been able to get to the more I help.
All of us, get to places. None of us have ever been to.
And so it's just a different mindset that I don't think we've
had. And again that only comes
through us helping one another up, you know, whenever you're
like I don't know if you cheer or like stepping on a horse.
Like somebody, like helps you like that it up on top of the
horse, the Boost, like it. We do that for one another and
whichever way that we are called to do it again.
Yours could be self-care. Somebody could be helping
somebody learn about EKGs. Like I had all these nurses on
showing how they can help. Like I can teach you how to do
Botox. I can you can take things from
all of us and go and make your career special for you and that
is the beauty of what nurses can bring to one another.
And we need to embrace that right there.
That's totally like something that is near and dear to my
heart. It's like you know, just because
they're light is shining bright. I mean you are shining bright to
okay? I think it's hard though because
a lot of us you know there's all these limiting beliefs that come
up and comparison syndrome, right?
Where we're looking at others and there's so many blocks that
are there. There's a lot of fear you know,
there's a lot of things that come up but these are work
through Apple, you know, they're not they're not permanent when
we talk about self-care. It's it's not passage is and
bubble baths and things like that.
Like for me honestly self-care and you've been on my page, 42
minutes is healthy boundaries and These confidence building
things and working through that. And, like, all of these things
that do make us better at our jobs, make us that our partners
make us better mom's. Make us better humans and make
us feel empowered. Like that's self-care,
self-compassion self-trust, self-forgiveness like, all of
that. Yeah.
Don't you run? I do love a good massage, but
like self-care is just so much more than that and that's really
what I need. I hope on my page and in my
programs and all the things like that message is loud and proud.
I agree with you self-care. In my opinion.
This is Of on the same lines of what you're saying is checking
in with yourself. And seeing if this whatever it
is that you're doing is vibing with the life that you want to
create. I think that self-care because
you can get so busy with the work around you with all the
obligations, with all the things that are pulling you down that
you never check in with yourself.
You never say hey is what I'm doing right now, building the
life that I want to lead and if it's not, I need to change
something here because I'm not going in the trajectory of what
I want. It can be Think they can be, I'm
going to set better boundaries at work, it can be and again,
just that tiny little shift, right?
Seeing the shift, you seen the big, you know, submarines that
are like, all right, mate? 35, 35, and they're spending all
these numbers, right? And so they put the, the
submarine on a trajectory. It's one guy gives one number
off, just one number was a things going in a whole
different direction, right? And so, that might be the only
degree that you've got to shift your life to go.
I'm Goin In A hold of the direction now.
Now perfect. This is what I, you know, love
that. Because that right there is
literally the first thing we cover mentorship is the who you
be versus what you do and talking about identity and
talking about like what do you actually like that?
Whole like concept of self-awareness and emotional
intelligence and all of that? Because it's so true.
If you don't give your brain a Target, you're never going to
get there. You know, like I always say like
what you focus on you find you gotta give your brain a Target.
Yeah. And that's hard to can change
and like we can't judge yourself or whatever that.
Forget it is, but like we have to know where we want to move
towards, even if it's simple and then we just have to ask
ourselves. Okay?
What is step one to get in that direction?
Not, okay. We're going to plan on them and
we're going to do this. No, no, we don't have to do
that. It's just, you know, the whole
like you don't need to see the whole staircase.
Quote. Yeah, just do this step.
It's so true. And then you build momentum,
then you build confidence. Like, you do the scary thing,
and you move into that uncomfortable Zone, and then
you're like, dang it. Yeah, this is good.
Set it down re and now, my life is so much better.
I didn't burst into flames, I can do where else can a boundary
is? What can I delegate?
What can I automate? What can I eliminate out of my
life? That's what it's about.
Go back to the thought. We just talked about and again I
always bring this up because it's such truth and I always
want to bring truth to my podcast.
But there's a scripture that talks about that, our battle is
not against flesh and blood. Our battle is against bigger
things, it's against spiritual world that we don't even
understand. And we never, Will truly
understand. But if we are looking thinking
that Sally, who has this life that you want, is the person
that you're fighting against one, you're not focusing on
yourself because if you're looking internally, you ain't
got time to look at Sally because you got enough looking
at Sandra trying to figure out what is the person that Sandra
wants to become? What are the things that Sandra
wants for her life? So to look at it, what Sally has
on Instagram. You're way more focused in on
what does Diana want today? Who do I want to be?
And when You start realizing that you've got to fight your
demons, you have to fight your issues like you're saying
imposter syndrome, I don't feel good enough.
I don't feel pretty enough. I don't think that I'm smart
enough. As you work through that for
yourself. What you ain't got time to look
at Sally. Could you got enough work to do?
Because God knows we all have enough work to do on ourselves.
Yeah. But you aren't going to be so
jealous of her and then when you hear from Sally, you know, I'm
being true to myself because this is what I want, and that
looks good for Sally. But that look, that's different
for me. Sally, probably.
Look at me. I'm like dang, she's got her
life together. Well, that's the thing that we
think people have like all of this stuff together at the end
of the day, like they may be looking at you saying like, wow,
do you have all your stuff together?
I wish I was like you so it's like it's not worth your time
and energy. This focus on yourself because
Sally's point in the gym for five minutes, snaps that instant
photo and pieces out. But he's exhausted.
And, you know, I do want to point out like, all of these
feelings of all the things we're talking about, are completely
normal. To feel like there's nothing,
Wrong with feeling and postures in Doral, like it's actually in
a way kind of healthy once in awhile, right?
Because we're not, like, just jumping to do stuff for, like,
I'm comfortable with in terms of like our role within nursing,
right? We ask questions, we look stuff
up, right? Because we feel like, okay, I'm
not comfortable with this procedure, maybe I should just
double-check, that's okay to do. So you don't, you know, hurt
somebody but it also keeps you curious to write it.
Keeps you like in the kind of thatthe, totally, no memory
bank? Yeah, exactly.
That's scary, right? When you think about those
providers Yeah. And how's your sunrooms?
Okay. It's just when it went imposter,
syndrome leaves to shame is when it becomes a sea and that's what
I'm talking about the deeper stuff.
It's never just a simple as well.
This other person, it's so much deeper with inside you.
And so as you start to kind of go, like, wait a minute, okay?
I have imposter syndrome. Which is totally normal because
I kind of know what I'm doing. But what is it?
I don't think I'm smart enough. Yeah, so it's deeper.
It's a loser. I don't know enough like, oh my
gosh, I shouldn't even have been hired.
Why do they Um up hiring me such a terrible nurse like it's that
mentality. The negative.
Self-talk, tell me you did not wake up one day and have all
this stuff, right? You didn't just have this great
career that you finally have great boundaries with and have
this you know, Catalyst for self-care business that you're
growing. So how did you get here cut?
It talk me through that moment that you decided.
Okay, listen, I'm going to be a nurse and then I guess you kind
of shared, I mean, through your journey, kind of shared it.
So I don't really know if we need to.
So we beat this dead horse but maybe I just want to ask, you
know, what made you decide to Commoners.
Like what was that moment for you and your career, it's
probably action. Interesting.
So, two things. So with the business piece
honestly, it's about taking action and just lean it scared.
What do you mean? You know, taking action?
What do you mean? Like, I remember like when I had
the idea for my mentorship program which now is like the
part of my business, you know, I was terrified.
That's what if people don't want to join.
What if like people don't get like the The results that they
want. What if this?
What if that like what if I suck at this?
Like all these fears kind of came up for me, it took you no
time and I hired a mentor and I did all the things and like, you
know, I did it scared, you know, and you just do it because if
you don't know, actually no changes, but I always say,
right? So it's either you take that
messy action, where you're scared and you're like, shoot, I
don't know if I can do that and then you just do it and then you
see, you know, people do sign up and people do get the results
that you're looking for and they It great.
Testimonials and people are like happy, right?
With what you've created but takes that action in that, take
that leap of faith and self-trust.
So I would not say it was like an easy Journey.
It's a lot of hard work, a lot of messy action, a lot of, you
know, working through those mindset blocks just like anyone
has. But that's I mean that's the
real reality of it, you know. And it gets easier we're time.
Like as you boost your confidence and as you see that
you know what you're creating is is working and even when it
doesn't work. Right failures, just feedback.
So it's kind of like, I like that.
There's picnics, that makes this all the things.
It's definitely roller coaster ride, but especially when you
were close. Yeah, exactly.
So I just wanted to say that. But also so so I was a career
changer. I worked in a lab research lab
for a while, as a lab tech. I thought I was raised by two
chemists so I thought like the biology route was like my thing,
my parents would always tease me like, oh, you're going to be an
apologist. You know, I worked in a cancer
research, research lab like a melanoma research lab, which was
cool. But it was just all my And I
actually worked next to this amazing Swedish guy and he was
my like benchmate when you work in a have like a bench that you
work at and he was my Benjamin. He would listen to like Depeche
Mode and Madonna all day. Definitely a personality, I had
a really bad week one week. And I was like, I don't know if
I can do this anymore and he was like, have you ever thought of
being a nurse? I think he'd be really good at
it. And I was like just randomly and
so, then I was like, huh? He kind of planted that seed and
that was the Catalyst for me like really thinking about like,
where do I Like to go. Like what I see what do I when I
think about what I want to do in my everyday is like what will do
I want to serve. And so that's how I took that
leap. I quit my job.
I applied to a direct entry, nursing program in Boston, and
it was rough through the rough program, but you know, I worked
while on school and it was just a crazy time, but that was my
journey and it ended up being okay, whoever that guy is the
Swedish guy listening to Madonna.
Actually, I see You if I had to guess, I would have guessed on.
So yeah, that's that works. I wonder what he saw in you that
made. It made him think like you would
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Yeah, it's really interesting unlike Facebook or interesting
because it's like I want to say also like when I finish school
you know, you have to kind of find a job.
Obviously, when I graduated it was the recession of 2009.
So they were like the jobs and the ones that were there.
There were like a bajillion people applying for.
And so I remember being like, okay, this is what I don't want
to do. Like I didn't want to do I see
you. I didn't want to do the ER and I
didn't want to do neuro. I was like, absolutely not,
there's no way, it's too depressing.
Too crazy, not my jam, no way. Yeah, I've been in there as
well. So I want to say that the people
listening like, sometimes we think we know but until you
actually like try it like I shadowed and I definitely did my
due diligence but like you definitely don't know until you
actually try it sometime. I think you'll be surprised at
what like, where you land. So being open minded, Not a Bad
Thing throughout this whole process.
You've caught you've had ups, you've had Downs, which you kind
of fear. May be a challenge, something
that you had to overcome that. You saw coming and you're like,
this is this, is it I'm done for but then you were like, no, I
just increased my resolve for for wanting this even more so
you can see that even more heard about like at work.
Yeah, it just work or even in your business in either sector.
Because what I really want to showcase to people is that you
haven't just had wins all throughout your time.
You haven't been just winning, you know, like, people are,
like, all I do is win went, like, know, sometimes you lose
and it hurts and it sucks. Like, so like I said earlier,
you know, I Immigrant survivors of hundred percent.
It has not been all rainbows and butterflies by any means.
You know, there's been a lot of craziness, I would say a big
hurdle. So when I left that job, I, you
know, it took a while actually, for me to feel a little more
confident again, and I remember kind of coming into this job
being like, okay, you like talk yourself.
Exactly, okay. Go into this job.
Like you're gonna set the boundaries gonna like, advocate
for yourself. Like all the things that like I
had identified were things that I could have done better.
Yeah. In my prior job.
Bob and I vividly remember the first time I like set a boundary
at work. Oh, I think that was here.
Yeah, it's like oh my god. I think I'm not a team player.
Like, are they gonna judge me? And I gonna be viewed as, like
lazy, like, write all these things come up, which I'm sure
your listeners can identify with me, but all felt that way.
But, you know, I thought about it ahead of time, you know,
like, okay. Well, what's the goal here?
Like what is the goal of this boundary?
Like what do I actually need? What, like, who do I need to
communicate with like, at all? Kind of like we're going now.
It's just honestly. He set boundaries, you just do
it. You don't even think about it.
Yeah but that was like, okay like totally have made you my
power pose I could do this anywhere your favorite like
outfit, there's about my schedule and it was just there
like okay great like let's talk about it.
Like okay, we're good. Like even now we had last week,
there was a scheduling thing, I was very frustrated, very, very
frustrated at work about something and what can I keep my
cool? Like it takes a lot for me to
like totally like freaked out. Yeah but like I was really
annoyed and And I think they could tell that I was
frustrated. Because I mean, they know me
well enough at this point to know that.
Like, yeah, typically yeah, yeah.
But I was very frustrated about something.
And I went to leadership and I was like, look, this is what's
happening. This is like, why it's not
working and, and this is what I need.
And like, literally within an like two hours, they had like an
action plan and like this woman who's, in, charge of the
scheduling, like, came to meet with me.
She's like, okay, this is what I mean, that was like, like, That
was a win, but it's also like, being vulnerable and putting
yourself out there, which is not easy to do in business.
I would say there's been a lot of lows.
I mean, there's been many things that I've put together and put a
lot of work into and put all this time into you and it's like
crickets, right. You know, you don't have people
sign up for you like no one wants to join you on alive or
whatever it is, you know? And sometimes that can be hard,
right? It makes you feel like, oh my
gosh, am I failing like is this? But like now it's one of those
things where I'm like you know, I'm going to show up you know
and even if it's one person, like maybe that one person
needed to hear like that thing today.
Unlike not look at like vanity metrics and just say to yourself
like look, I know I believe deeply in what I'm doing.
Like there's zero question like my belief in like I know my
program works like there's no doubt about that anymore because
I've been doing it now for years but those times still come up
right where you're like oh shoot like only you know, x amount of
people. Liked my thing.
Whatever it's like, cool. That's awesome.
Yeah. Like somewhat better in the
world thought that this was valuable and like if you were in
a room of 10 people they were like yeah girl you be strong.
Yeah. But you know on the internet
you're like 10 people do not speak their minds that shit that
I've used, but like there's going to be loads of going to be
Highs, but like the lows you can definitely get through.
And just, you know, I keep, that's why celebrate wins every
Wednesday in mentorship, home to celebrate your wins and you
ignore, but there's always something to be like, Group,
even if it's tiny like, oh, I ate three meals today or hey, I
shout, I was true, Mom. It's a true Mom.
They're using like bonus at. No, it doesn't have to be that.
Yeah, there's always like, even keeping a little Journal of the
things like sometimes, you know, like you can testimonials or
like messages, I get from people.
They're like, oh my God, like, thank you so much.
Thank you can look at those and say, like no, you know what I'm
doing? All right, like that this is
helping, you know, I love that, that is so good.
And you've Had some, you know, you said, you had some mentors
and you've had other people on your, I believe that come onto
your program and kind of helped, like, you've had cat golden.
She was the one that could be to actually like, launch my
program. She's actually lost a bunch of
people. I don't know, like, I met a
couple other people that are like a direct result of her
influence on their lives. She like, definitely helped me
move through the fear and a confidence that she was like,
girl. Let's go.
So she would give me like, benchmarks to me.
And she's like, okay, we're gonna do this.
I love Energy. And she is also like, no muss no
fuss. Which I absolutely love because
it's like there's no, like coddling.
It's like just she's very sweet and like so loving and like an
amazing who could not like speak more highly of Her Like She's
incredible but she was exactly like the UMP to.
Like she's got that spark right where she's like girl you got
this looks that you can do it so she a she was amazing.
I've worked with other mentors, like some business mentors
things like that but yeah cat was definitely the like You
know, I would like to think that I would have launched it anyway
but she definitely. Yeah.
And sometimes you need that when you're a mom and you're working
and you're starting something, it is so easy to just let those
other things that you're doing just suck and drag the energy
out of you that you're like, it's good.
No, no I did a lot today. It's fine.
I don't need to get that done but you do need to get it done
but you don't have the energy and so you kind of need someone
that's like I know you're tired, do it tired?
You're like ah yeah easily Malone and it's good because
then it actually gets Done. And you actually realize that
your cup is bigger than you think it is.
You have one capacity than you, think you do.
You're stronger than you, think you are, but you do need someone
to kind of remind you of that because you forget and you're,
you know, you need that bench, buddy.
That when you put that weight on your back there, like you got
one more. You like, I don't got well more
than liked it, but you're just like, you need that.
Yeah. But that also needs to say like,
alright, you did the dang thing. Now, it's just true 100% because
I very much like I've always been like, in kind of, like,
Like the quote energy of solutions like an action whose
in like even when I was young and we lived in England when I
was little and my mom always says, like you were never a kid
that was like dwelling in the - look she's like, you know, you
join the theater group like you weren't playing like you join
like the tracks, you know, there's like she's like you got
involved with friends like you weren't like she's like you
always chose kind of joy and like how can I make this work
for me you know. So I've kind of always had that
mentality. Like look if Things suck things
suck. But like, let's think about how
it can not feel like doing if we're low Vibe low-energy cool.
That's okay. What's like what helps boost
your energy like where are we at?
Like, why are you love? I like you, talk about energy.
Mentorship have a whole season holding like is it that your
work environment? Socks?
Is it a toxic colleague? Is it that you're eating crappy
food? Is it that you're not moving
your body? Is it that you're depressed, you
know like what is the root of the root and like once you
identify that? And have that self-awareness
like we talked about, then you can come up with, okay?
Well, what a step one, what is step one to move in the
direction towards the thing that you again, give your brain a
Target. All right?
You know, it's like a pressure type of thing.
It's just like, okay, you know, there are little teeny tiny
things that we can do that. Get our momentum going.
It's like a couch potato and we're depressed and we're
sitting on the couch, eating Cheetos.
I mean we've all been there. Like I think everybody's had
those weeks where they feel really low energy.
But it's like, okay, if you don't That's making you feel
crappy even more crappy and use identify.
Okay, well I want to feel more energized and the step one is to
maybe go for a walk. What you can do is just you know
put your shoes where you can see them you know, or put them on
the couch. So instead of sitting here like
shoot that reminds me. Okay IQ is the shoes are there.
Let's go for 5 minutes. I'm just going to go outside for
a walk. Yeah.
And the Harper's getting started once you get started, you build
that momentum and you can keep. Yeah.
So I heard the story of a guy that wanted to go to the gym all
the time. He knew that if he set this goal
of like I'm going to go to the gym for an hour.
He wouldn't go, all he could do was go to the gym and he would
not allow himself to be there more than two minutes.
It was just the act of getting up and going to the gym that he
was trying to get ingrained in himself.
Nobody go for like an hour because it when you think about
you like I don't want to go. You just like, just get up and
make up. Yeah, it was just getting over
that barrier, that he was working through and so, that was
easier. So, that was easy, it made it
easier, just to get there. Then when he got there he stayed
a little bit longer and a little bit longer and so now that that
routine behavior and again like you're saying maybe you just put
the shoes on and you stay in the garage with the shoes on.
And you're like, okay, that's all we do today, was just saying
the garage with the shoes on and then the next day you just start
small, you eat something real tiny, you know, eat elephant.
You don't see the whole thing in one bite.
You just take a little bite and then eventually, you'll eat it,
but just give yourself a little bit of time and don't feel so
overwhelmed by. I have to build a huge social
media following, and I need to be a baller on social media and
Need to have it. Now, it's like that if it takes
a little bit of time, one bite at a time, I'll get there.
First, there's actually a great book.
Atomic have a huge accident that actual thing, right?
And he talks about those kind of Gateway habits these little like
snippet habits, but he talks about mastering the art of
showing up, and that's why it works, right?
It's like, it's like casting a vote for you and the life you
desire to be living and viewing things more as like an identity
versus like I have to do. It's like, okay, well I get to
do this like this is because I'm a helpful person, you know.
No, whatever. So if you guys haven't read or
listen to the audio book, it's a phenomenal phenomenal read.
Really great for any sort of shifts that you're trying to do
with this. It's really it's it's on my list
of like probably top 10 books ever is atomic have.
It's just absolutely fabulous for the last question of the
podcast Diana. Tell me about a piece of advice
that you would give to a new nurse starting off on a career
or that you would give to Diana. If you could go back to Diana,
like day one, you know, straight from the She's Fresh.
She's coming in to work, as a nurse or nurse practitioner,
whatever job you want to talk to yourself in.
What was a piece of advice that you would tell her hold on to
this is and a piece of advice. You would tell her, don't you
dare listen to this for one second.
It's a real of another so many things, I think so, hmm.
I'm gonna do too because there's too much like it.
So number one, I would say, never doubt your capability and
always have your eye on your capacity because the a lot of us
feel like our capacity is tied into our capabilities and we are
incredibly capable human beings but we all have limits, we all
have a capacity. So you know tuning into what
that looks like and trusting that you're worthy of whatever
boundaries or whatever rest or whatever you need like trust
that you are worthy of that. So that would be the biggest
one. The second thing I would say is
just hoedown sometimes like take pauses.
Like if we don't take that pause, we can't.
You know, and like that's where that self-awareness piece comes
in. It's like when you leave your
shift, take a pause, ask yourself how you're doing?
Like how do you feel? What do you want to feel?
What's step one to get there? Like, there's all these little
pauses like when I leave my house every day now, I cause
when I leave my house like just for 30 seconds and like think
about like oh wow it's a beautiful day, you know, just
like zooming out a little bit. You know, it's easy to keep our
head down and just be like Turn and Burn but so like taking that
pauses super, super super helpful.
Those are really good pieces of advice.
I agree. I feel like we've touched on all
those things throughout this whole conversation of just
slowing down, listening to yourself, doing the work within
yourself, but you said, just keeping your head down, not
paying attention, just look around and see all that you
have. You have so much to be grateful
for. We all even the little things
again, that you woke up today, air in your lungs, and your
brain is working and your heart is pumping.
That is something. If that is all you've got,
you've got a lot and so just start there to start looking and
just thinking, okay, I To do this work today because I'm
alive and this is what is going to change my life and that's
going to change the directory in.
This is going to put me on the path of who I want to be in
Howard. My life to look.
So beautifully said and for the last part of the interview is
that rapid fire questions? Are you ready?
Sure. What is your favorite holiday?
Oh Chris sure. Yeah I love the Christmas tree
that's my hand. July 4th is getting up there
though. The older I get I'm liking that
holiday a little bit more. Just just just decide the
coziness. I love to put on Jesus music and
I love looking at the ornaments that like, my mom gave us a
bunch of like the ordinance that I had as a kid.
So, and yeah. What is your favorite beverage
Diva? Beverage like your go-to whole
ourselves? There's maidan, I like the
orange vanilla. So, who's gonna see the orange?
One is so good. It should be.
I don't know what's in it. I'm a I'm a lot of cell sir.
I know there's like Lacroix fans and your favorite color.
Yes, I like aqua. Blue reminds me of the ocean.
If you didn't like ocean feels very like, I Lindy yeah tropical
yes, Diana. Thanks for coming on.
And then where can my listeners find you?
So at Catalyst for self-care is my insta handle.
That is where I live. That's my kind of that's where
all their some guides there. If you need resources on
specific things but my dreams are always open.
So if you're looking for something and can't find it,
just let me know. There's a ton of free resources
on my website which is www.thegolfdoctor.com.au
Alice.com, there's tons of free. Free downloads their boundaries
downloads like planners you name it.
There's a bunch of stuff there so you can definitely fantastic,
guys. Check her out.
I'll have all our stuff Link in the show notes again.
Thank you for your time, Diana. And guys, thanks for tuning in.
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